Why the LGBT movement deserves blame for the Orlando shooting

[JakeStarkey]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Great so your role model is North Korea.Not the United States.Not a surprise there.

I don't think fines will get rid of homophobia, but it was surely hurt those who practice it. That's good.

 

[bodecea]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

 

[DrLove]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Hoping for a Trump/ Glacier Gidget ticket in 2016. Awesome right?

 

[IndependantAce]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

 

[Syriusly]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

Actually there is a correlation between being an asshole and blaming gays for the murder of gays.

100% of people who blame gays for the Orlando shooting are assholes like you.

 

[IndependantAce]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Great so your role model is North Korea.

Not the United States.

Not a surprise there.

I think homosexuality is unnatural, and homophobia is a natural reaction to it. Homosexual behavior serves no productive purpose and traditionally may have spread diseases as well, so people tend to naturally be adverse to it. Trying to indoctrinate people into thinking that it is "normal" won't work.

And no I don't believe anyone is "born gay or transgender", if anything plays a role in it it is testosterone/estrogen abnormalities which can probably be corrected through natural means rather than trying to "indcotrinate" peoople into accepting it, or removing children's genitals.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your opinion is noted, IA, and dismissed.

 

[EverCurious]

Sorry I missed a day, was out cavorting with visiting relatives heh

Syriusly, ugh we see eye to eye on so many LGBT issues, but why oh why must you connect such crimes to gun ownership?? It's sooo cliche... I know you have the stats, there are millions of gun owners, like myself, who have nothing against LGBT, or even /are/ LGBT. Please stop connecting this stuff, it's crap and you are far too intelligent to not know it. Just as in any "group," there are fruit loops, don't try to paint all gun owners as haters like this - we're not ~pouts~

Extremism and intolerance, on both sides, is the common thread of /every/ incident. This is the real problem we should all be condemning and striving to fix...

I've been putting thought into the whole "indoctrination" argument in schools and what not and I'm afraid I do tend to agree. It is not so much that I mind liberal teachings or liberal student groups, but rather their fascism when it comes to opposing groups and teachings. Colleges especially are being pressured to reject alternate opinions and beliefs. This is disheartening because our children are not learning to properly address opposition to their opinions, something one will /always/ find in their lives - this loss of coping skill feeds directly into the extremism that is so dangerous the unstable in our population. While I can understand, in that I think the whole liberal teaching movement is a direct reaction to the blatant "indoctrination" of churches who had a stranglehold on the country for generations, and honestly it was/could have been a good one, but now you folks push too far to the left with the "forced" teachings; and we're imbalanced again...

While the right would dictate the "place" of a woman and condemn the hearts of our LGBT's, the left's hatred are just as dangerous; lashing out at wealth and success and turning to socialism. I simply cannot support the left when they are so out of whack which leaves me very often voting against my LGBT interests While this is actually a decent year for my vote, most are not... Still I am hoping that the establishment parties on both sides will learn from what the people are telling them is wrong with their extremist views, or at a minimum we can abandon the two-party system that cripples compromise in the country; as vast numbers of my idiot rabid Sander's supporters are doing in abandoning the D party.

I know there is compromise out there for us as a nation, I'm just not sure where the desire to find that "middle ground" has gone in politics, education, and many other key aspects that build the strength of this nation. I think if one wishes to find where America is at its best for /all/ her people, you will find it was during the periods that we were united. Why must we take the extreme path up the valley cliffs to either side, when the paved road down the middle would be a far smoother ride? I find it... pathetic really, that so many people in this nation are unable to use their brains and follow the best course, the easy path that accepts and tolerates /all/ groups and beliefs in a free land. Even if it is not your belief, you must believe in the freedom that America stands for and find tolerance. Divided we will fall, look at where we are today and how bad it's getting out there...

We cannot run a country on blame, we must run a country upon our common ground.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

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[AvgGuyIA]

[Q
These include John Wayne Gacy, who targeted young boys and young males and Jeffery Dahmer, who targeted other gay men.i

From the link:

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Given that the link goes to a Right Wing Nut Job website- and that website links to another Right Wing Nut job group- Family Research Institute
- and given that there is no link to the actual study- but a recap of what the study is purported to say......why the hell do you believe in any of that crap?

Are Gacy and Dalmer heroes of yours? Strange you'd hate a group with a name of Family Research Institute. It's like you want the family destroyed.

Are Hitler and Stalin heroes of yours?

Family Research Institute is a partisan anti-gay organization

The Family Research Institute (FRI), originally known as the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality (ISIS), is an American non-profit organization based in Colorado Springs, Colorado which states that it has "...one overriding mission: to generate empirical research on issues that threaten the traditional family, particularly homosexuality, AIDS, sexual social policy, and drug abuse".[2] The FRI is part of a movement of organizations, often faith-based (sometimes called the Christian right), which seek to influence the political debate in the United States. They seek "...to restore a world where marriage is upheld and honored, where children are nurtured and protected, and where homosexuality is not taught and accepted, but instead is discouraged and rejected at every level."[2] The Boston Globe reported that the FRI's 2005 budget was less than $200,000.[3]


The FRI is run by Paul Cameron, who earned a doctorate in psychology at the University of Colorado at Boulder in 1966. Cameron founded the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality in 1982, and this institute later became the FRI.[3]

The Family Research Institute is designated an anti-gay hate group[4] by the Southern Poverty Law Center[5][6] because of Cameron's discredited research and claims about LGBT peopl

Don't think that is a reliable statement regarding the purpose and goals of FRI. Why not show us their own statement of purpose? You'll see that what you posted comes from a LW hate group who, like you Syriusly, hates the Family.
This isn't so hateful or biased as yours and factually presents their noble purpose in the name of science research.

Family Research Institute is a non-profit scientific and educational corporation that believes the strength of our society depends on preserving America's historic moral framework and the traditional family. FRI is working to produce sound, scientific data on pressing social issues — especially homosexuality — in an effort to promote traditional policies. We welcome all who would join in the fight to restore a world where marriage is upheld and honored, where children are nurtured and protected, and where homosexuality is not taught and accepted, but instead is discouraged and rejected at every level.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

Actually there is a correlation between being an asshole and blaming gays for the murder of gays.

100% of people who blame gays for the Orlando shooting are assholes like you.

And 100% of fags are solely to blame for their high suicide and AIDS along with every other STD infection rates.

 

[Syriusly]

There is no nonetheless IndepedantAce. Bully or batter homosexuals in our society and the perp is going to find he is going to pay a big fine or go to jail. The anti-gay shit is coming to an end or will be severly punished.

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

Actually there is a correlation between being an asshole and blaming gays for the murder of gays.

100% of people who blame gays for the Orlando shooting are assholes like you.

And 100% of fags are solely to blame for their high suicide and AIDS along with every other STD infection rates.

Ultimately everyone who commits suicide is responsible for their own suicide- as is virtually everyone who gets AID's and every other sexually transmitted disease.

Meanwhile- 100% of assholes like you- who call Americans f*gs and n*ggers and c*nts and K*kes are just bigoted assholes.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Homophobia is biologically natural because homosexuality is a deviation from nature, which is why it has been condemned across a variety of cultures historically, including native Americans, the Mongols under Ghengis Khan, and even communist regimes like North Korea.

Simply chastising "bigotry" or punishing hate crimes will never eliminate homophobia, anymore than "making drugs" illegal will stop people from using drugs.

If you want to get rid of homophobia, you'll have to get rid of homosexuality.

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

Actually there is a correlation between being an asshole and blaming gays for the murder of gays.

100% of people who blame gays for the Orlando shooting are assholes like you.

And 100% of fags are solely to blame for their high suicide and AIDS along with every other STD infection rates.

Ultimately everyone who commits suicide is responsible for their own suicide- as is virtually everyone who gets AID's and every other sexually transmitted disease.

Meanwhile- 100% of assholes like you- who call Americans f*gs and n*ggers and c*nts and K*kes are just bigoted assholes.

I'm providing a valuable service. You should learn to appreciate it.

 

[Syriusly]

[Q
These include John Wayne Gacy, who targeted young boys and young males and Jeffery Dahmer, who targeted other gay men.i

From the link:

.

Given that the link goes to a Right Wing Nut Job website- and that website links to another Right Wing Nut job group- Family Research Institute
- and given that there is no link to the actual study- but a recap of what the study is purported to say......why the hell do you believe in any of that crap?

Are Gacy and Dalmer heroes of yours? Strange you'd hate a group with a name of Family Research Institute. It's like you want the family destroyed.

Are Hitler and Stalin heroes of yours?

Family Research Institute is a partisan anti-gay organization

The Family Research Institute (FRI), originally known as the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality (ISIS), is an American non-profit organization based in Colorado Springs, Colorado which states that it has "...one overriding mission: to generate empirical research on issues that threaten the traditional family, particularly homosexuality, AIDS, sexual social policy, and drug abuse".[2] The FRI is part of a movement of organizations, often faith-based (sometimes called the Christian right), which seek to influence the political debate in the United States. They seek "...to restore a world where marriage is upheld and honored, where children are nurtured and protected, and where homosexuality is not taught and accepted, but instead is discouraged and rejected at every level."[2] The Boston Globe reported that the FRI's 2005 budget was less than $200,000.[3]


The FRI is run by Paul Cameron, who earned a doctorate in psychology at the University of Colorado at Boulder in 1966. Cameron founded the Institute for the Scientific Investigation of Sexuality in 1982, and this institute later became the FRI.[3]

The Family Research Institute is designated an anti-gay hate group[4] by the Southern Poverty Law Center[5][6] because of Cameron's discredited research and claims about LGBT peopl

Don't think that is a reliable statement regarding the purpose and goals of FRI. Why not show us their own statement of purpose? You'll see that what you posted comes from a LW hate group who, like you Syriusly, hates the Family.
This isn't so hateful or biased as yours and factually presents their noble purpose in the name of science research.

Family Research Institute is a non-profit scientific and educational corporation that believes the strength of our society depends on preserving America's historic moral framework and the traditional family. FRI is working to produce sound, scientific data on pressing social issues — especially homosexuality — in an effort to promote traditional policies. We welcome all who would join in the fight to restore a world where marriage is upheld and honored, where children are nurtured and protected, and where homosexuality is not taught and accepted, but instead is discouraged and rejected at every level.

LOL....yeah- the 'Left Wing Hate Group" being
Wikipedia.

Meanwhile- Family Research Institute- and its related Family Research Council are partisan anti-gay groups dedicated to villifying homosexuals.

Nutjobs claiming that gays deserve capital punishment- or at least imprisonment

After endorsing Uganda’s crackdown on gay people, the Family Research Institute has posted another statement saluting the country for deciding to “be harsh with those who choose to act on homosexual desires.”

The group, which is led by Paul Cameron, also insisted that the death penalty remain an option in punishing gays: “Depending on the severity of the homosexual offense, a fine, prison time or even capital punishment is warranted. The most important thing is to make it illegal, and thus keep those who fancy it (or seem addicted to it), off the streets, out of schools, with no ‘right’ to proselytize or advertise their preferences. (Current Russian law tries to do this without making the activity illegal; in most of the West, it must be made illegal first.)”

Family Research Institute » Blog Archive » Jan 2014 | Muddled Thinking

 

[AsherN]

A man kissing a boy on the mouth is normal? I've never heard of that.

You need to get out more. Try Europe, Russia, etc.

 

[Syriusly]

Left handed people were persecuted in much the same way for thousands of years due to the superstition of the ignorant.

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

Actually there is a correlation between being an asshole and blaming gays for the murder of gays.

100% of people who blame gays for the Orlando shooting are assholes like you.

And 100% of fags are solely to blame for their high suicide and AIDS along with every other STD infection rates.

Ultimately everyone who commits suicide is responsible for their own suicide- as is virtually everyone who gets AID's and every other sexually transmitted disease.

Meanwhile- 100% of assholes like you- who call Americans f*gs and n*ggers and c*nts and K*kes are just bigoted assholes.

I'm providing a valuable service. You should learn to appreciate it.

You flinging your fecal fertilizer is not a public service.

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

Actually there is a correlation between left handedness and violence. The most violent countries in Africa have high lefted handed populations (over 30%)

Actually there is a correlation between being an asshole and blaming gays for the murder of gays.

100% of people who blame gays for the Orlando shooting are assholes like you.

And 100% of fags are solely to blame for their high suicide and AIDS along with every other STD infection rates.

Ultimately everyone who commits suicide is responsible for their own suicide- as is virtually everyone who gets AID's and every other sexually transmitted disease.

Meanwhile- 100% of assholes like you- who call Americans f*gs and n*ggers and c*nts and K*kes are just bigoted assholes.

I'm providing a valuable service. You should learn to appreciate it.

You flinging your fecal fertilizer is not a public service.

You whine too much.

 

[Vandalshandle]

(Regardless of the hoax theories, I'll take it at its word).

The LGBT community publicly portrays itself as a bunch of depraved libertines who pray on children. You don't see straight people bringing underage children to drunken Mardi Gras parades or swingers clubs and calling that the face of "heterosexuality".

Wouldn't surprise me if the shooter's public image of gays was influenced by perverts on the media who inspired him to violence; so the LGBT community should be publicly condemned for trying to normalize this degeneracy:

Viral Video Of Little Boy Twerking At Gay Pride Event Sparks Outrage

You are once seriously disgusting human being, Ace.

 

[Syriusly]

Sorry I missed a day, was out cavorting with visiting relatives heh

Syriusly, ugh we see eye to eye on so many LGBT issues, but why oh why must you connect such crimes to gun ownership?? It's sooo cliche... I know you have the stats, there are millions of gun owners, like myself, who have nothing against LGBT, or even /are/ LGBT. Please stop connecting this stuff, it's crap and you are far too intelligent to not know it. Just as in any "group," there are fruit loops, don't try to paint all gun owners as haters like this - we're not ~pouts~.

I wish you had quoted me so I would know what I said you are referring to.

I am not blaming gun owners- any more than I am blaming Muslims- any more than I am blaming Christians or even testosterone fueled young men.

What I have done is point out that if we start trying to blame anyone but the actual perpetrator then its easy to identify various groups that he was affiliated with that COULD and will be blamed by someone.

This thread was started by an asshole who wants to blame gays for being murdered.

But it was an asshole who happened to be a Muslims asshole, and a gun owning asshole, who killed these people.

Not 'gays'
Not "Muslims"
Not "gun owners"

 

[OffensivelyOpenMinded]

(Regardless of the hoax theories, I'll take it at its word).

The LGBT community publicly portrays itself as a bunch of depraved libertines who pray on children. You don't see straight people bringing underage children to drunken Mardi Gras parades or swingers clubs and calling that the face of "heterosexuality".

Wouldn't surprise me if the shooter's public image of gays was influenced by perverts on the media who inspired him to violence; so the LGBT community should be publicly condemned for trying to normalize this degeneracy:

Viral Video Of Little Boy Twerking At Gay Pride Event Sparks Outrage

You are once seriously disgusting human being, Ace.

No....the faggots in the photos are disgusting human beings.