Why the Current Liberal Dominated Political System is About to Crash

[JimBowie1958]

The problem is that your description of reality issued as a part of Republican propaganda, doesn't describe the real world, but what you wish was true.

The real America is that 20% of the people have an astonishing 85% of the wealth and are desperate to vacuum up what they don't have.

That business followers are keeping the great wealth creating middle class poor by adopting zero growth business strategies in order to pay less and take away benefits and get longer hours. The fact that that is destroying the American family and the American Dream is to them, acceptable collateral damage.

That the only thing standing between the aristocrats and the complete destruction of the American democracy is President Obama and daily there is a new stream of Republican propaganda keeping people like you you barefoot and pregnant and in service of the aristocrats.

Lol, Obama is the biggest Creature owned by Wall Street and anti-American international corporations that we have ever had in the Oval Office.

Who owns you?

The Republic I have sworn to serve all my life.

Everyone on earth is to the left of you.

Not hardly and by that remark you give away your ignorance of politics, Dude.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The problem is that your description of reality issued as a part of Republican propaganda, doesn't describe the real world, but what you wish was true.

The real America is that 20% of the people have an astonishing 85% of the wealth and are desperate to vacuum up what they don't have.

That business followers are keeping the great wealth creating middle class poor by adopting zero growth business strategies in order to pay less and take away benefits and get longer hours. The fact that that is destroying the American family and the American Dream is to them, acceptable collateral damage.

That the only thing standing between the aristocrats and the complete destruction of the American democracy is President Obama and daily there is a new stream of Republican propaganda keeping people like you you barefoot and pregnant and in service of the aristocrats.

Stop listening to what Obama says. Pay attention to what he does.

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I see what addiction to conservative propaganda has done to you. We've all seen what conservative governance did to the country. We see today the burned out husk of the GOP lurching around the House accomplishing absolutely nothing. The least respected body politic ever in our history.

Yet you say, carry on.

You must think that the country is nuts.

Lol, not.

 

[JimBowie1958]

I see what addiction to conservative propaganda has done to you. We've all seen what conservative governance did to the country. We see today the burned out husk of the GOP lurching around the House accomplishing absolutely nothing. The least respected body politic ever in our history.

Yet you say, carry on.

You must think that the country is nuts.

The New York Times is conservative propaganda?

Yeah. You run with that.

What I get a kick out of is conservative flexibility. A while ago their indictment of Obama was lack of business experience. Now it's that his administration is too connected to business.

I think that the real source of their theatrics is that he's not a Republican.

Your polarized view of politics leaves you blinded to the fact that there are many factions playing within each party.

Just because a third party IDs with the GOP doesn't mean that EVERYONE else that shares any of those beliefs is a Republican, lol.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

 

[PMZ]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

You're saying that there are no centrist Republicans? They used to be the majority of Republicans. Have all switched parties?

 

[Indeependent]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

You're saying that there are no centrist Republicans? They used to be the majority of Republicans. Have all switched parties?

Any Republican that isn't invited onto FoxNews or CTR is probably normal.

 

[NoNukes]

Sounds reasonable to me, Jim. The GOP continues its leftward slide in its mad race to become the Dem Part Lite.

When we have two indistinguishable parties, we will have one party rule, and there will no pretense of listening to the people.

If this happens, it will be because the right is just so ridiculous that no one will listen to them. The Republican Party is in a leftward slide for a reason.

Yes, because Republicans are increasingly like Democrats -- they don't care what the people want.

You are not the people.

 

[NoNukes]

Sounds reasonable to me, Jim. The GOP continues its leftward slide in its mad race to become the Dem Part Lite.

When we have two indistinguishable parties, we will have one party rule, and there will no pretense of listening to the people.

If this happens, it will be because the right is just so ridiculous that no one will listen to them. The Republican Party is in a leftward slide for a reason.

The GOP is sliding toward the left because the RINOs are addicted to pork as much as any Dimbocraps.

People are tired of the Republican's lunacy.

 

[NoNukes]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

Who do you consider a REGULAR American?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

You're saying that there are no centrist Republicans? They used to be the majority of Republicans. Have all switched parties?

The distribution of individual values has shifted to the left over time, the correlation to higher education being one factor as the teachers unions have turned our public schools into amoral atheist mills.

The majority of Americans are still center-right and to the right of that.

The leadership of the parties are much further left reflecting the effect of our educational systems propaganda efforts.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

Who do you consider a REGULAR American?

Those not sub-grouped by whether they have voted recently, plan to vote, etc.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

Care to share those polls?

 

[daveman]

I see what addiction to conservative propaganda has done to you. We've all seen what conservative governance did to the country. We see today the burned out husk of the GOP lurching around the House accomplishing absolutely nothing. The least respected body politic ever in our history.

Yet you say, carry on.

You must think that the country is nuts.

The New York Times is conservative propaganda?

Yeah. You run with that.

What I get a kick out of is conservative flexibility. A while ago their indictment of Obama was lack of business experience. Now it's that his administration is too connected to business.

I think that the real source of their theatrics is that he's not a Republican.

The real source of our criticism is that Obama is utterly incompetent.

 

[daveman]

If this happens, it will be because the right is just so ridiculous that no one will listen to them. The Republican Party is in a leftward slide for a reason.

Yes, because Republicans are increasingly like Democrats -- they don't care what the people want.

You are not the people.

Never claimed I was.

Could we not be flighty little hummingbirds here? Stick to the OP.

 

[PMZ]

The New York Times is conservative propaganda?

Yeah. You run with that.

What I get a kick out of is conservative flexibility. A while ago their indictment of Obama was lack of business experience. Now it's that his administration is too connected to business.

I think that the real source of their theatrics is that he's not a Republican.

The real source of our criticism is that Obama is utterly incompetent.

He certainly is if you only consider Republican propaganda. An unceasing stream of it since Republicans woke up to the fact that their reputation is now saddled with the worst President in American history and the only recovery from that would be to try to drag Obama, Democrats, liberals and the country down to Bush's performance.

They've thrown the country under the bus. You fell for it. No matter.

Republicans are starting to see the total failure of their strategy and are now looking for another scapegoat. It will be extreme conservatives and it won't be pretty.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Well, it seems that there is a split in the GOP. The old guard conservatives versus the Tea Party/far right. Who will prevail is the question. The sector that prevails will the the sector that appeals to the larger base.
Recent election demographics points to an increased move towards the center by those who voted according to the exit polls.
The question will be answered by state primaries.

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

Care to share those polls?

Its been a while since I have looked, but a quick couple of Googles yields the following:

conservatives 40%
Moderates 35%
liberals 21%
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

exit polls:
Moderates 45%
Conservatives 35%
Liberals 22%
It?s a Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod World: Most Voters are Moderates in Presidential Elections

Conservatives win if they energize their base, while liberals win if conservatives fail.

 

[PMZ]

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

Care to share those polls?

Its been a while since I have looked, but a quick couple of Googles yields the following:

conservatives 40%
Moderates 35%
liberals 21%
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

exit polls:
Moderates 45%
Conservatives 35%
Liberals 22%
It?s a Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod World: Most Voters are Moderates in Presidential Elections

Conservatives win if they energize their base, while liberals win if conservatives fail.

Conservatives have publically denounced Democrats, liberals, government workers, union members, all non-Christians, the poor, environmentalists, scientists, intellectuals, all non-Caucasions, the middle class, women, educators, foreigners, the illegals that they recruited here to replace American workers, gays, and our country.

Who is left, exactly, to vote for them?

 

[Indeependent]

Exit polls showed who voted, with about a 30% share to each the liberals and conservatives, with moderates getting40% approximately.

But the polls of regular Americans shows that the breakdown is this: 45% conservative, 35% moderate, and only 20% liberal.

The GOP loses when they fail to energize their base and less than half of conservatives even bother to vote as they wait and hope for another Reagan.

Care to share those polls?

Its been a while since I have looked, but a quick couple of Googles yields the following:

conservatives 40%
Moderates 35%
liberals 21%
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

exit polls:
Moderates 45%
Conservatives 35%
Liberals 22%
It?s a Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod World: Most Voters are Moderates in Presidential Elections

Conservatives win if they energize their base, while liberals win if conservatives fail.

Energize their base?
What happened to the 10s of millions of Republicans who CRIED, "Anybody but Obama"?
Not enough energy?
They sure as well Gerrymandered their way into a House victory (and yes, the Democrats would have done EXACTLY the same thing), but they COULDN'T get Romney into the White House?

Face it, no matter how bad O is, and despite his speeches he's certainly not accomplishing anything I want, you ain't getting an elitist white haired male into the WH anytime soon.

 

[PMZ]

Care to share those polls?

Its been a while since I have looked, but a quick couple of Googles yields the following:

conservatives 40%
Moderates 35%
liberals 21%
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

exit polls:
Moderates 45%
Conservatives 35%
Liberals 22%
It?s a Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod World: Most Voters are Moderates in Presidential Elections

Conservatives win if they energize their base, while liberals win if conservatives fail.

Energize their base?
What happened to the 10s of millions of Republicans who CRIED, "Anybody but Obama"?
Not enough energy?
They sure as well Gerrymandered their way into a House victory (and yes, the Democrats would have done EXACTLY the same thing), but they COULDN'T get Romney into the White House?

Face it, no matter how bad O is, and despite his speeches he's certainly not accomplishing anything I want, you ain't getting an elitist white haired male into the WH anytime soon.

What do you want that's not on his agenda?

 

[Indeependent]

Its been a while since I have looked, but a quick couple of Googles yields the following:

conservatives 40%
Moderates 35%
liberals 21%
Conservatives Remain the Largest Ideological Group in U.S.

exit polls:
Moderates 45%
Conservatives 35%
Liberals 22%
It?s a Mod, Mod, Mod, Mod World: Most Voters are Moderates in Presidential Elections

Conservatives win if they energize their base, while liberals win if conservatives fail.

Energize their base?
What happened to the 10s of millions of Republicans who CRIED, "Anybody but Obama"?
Not enough energy?
They sure as well Gerrymandered their way into a House victory (and yes, the Democrats would have done EXACTLY the same thing), but they COULDN'T get Romney into the White House?

Face it, no matter how bad O is, and despite his speeches he's certainly not accomplishing anything I want, you ain't getting an elitist white haired male into the WH anytime soon.

What do you want that's not on his agenda?

Fair Trade (Comparative Advantage).
Eliminate Business Visas and send current visas home.
MNCs have to pay back deductions for moving off-shore.
Evacuate illegals.
Restore Glass-Steagall Act.