Why the Arabs will eventually win

[P F Tinmore]

Terrorists are not considered civilians. You can play the victim card all you want and try to make all Palestinians look innocent but ALL OF HAMAS and ALL OF ISLAMIC JIHAD are military targets.

Your constant parotting of Palestinian propaganda wont change anything

And citizens of an occupying power are not considered civilians either.

BTW, where does it say that terrorists are not considered civilians?

Except, Im talking about Israel proper where there is no occupation. Thats not how it works. Are you saying when German occupied Poland, that German civilians were not civilians?

Good question. No distinction was made for location.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

The Arabs will eventually win this conflict?

Why?

Not just because of their much higher natural growth rate as compared to Jews.

But because the Arabs would rather die, literally die, than give up the land.

They would sacrifice everything they have, everything they own, for the land.

The Jews? Not so much. The Jews care about their jobs, their cars, their nice houses.

The Arabs? They care about pride and justice more than anything else.

That's why they will in the end, win.

They may not win for 20...40....60 years. But they will win.

Keep dreaming Abdul. It's no longer quantity but QUALITY that matters. Besides, Muslims / Arabs are cowards. They got their butts kicked so many times, they refuse to fight another army and be in uniform, so the garbage of humanity aka Islamists are now resorting to terrorism and targeting innocent, unsuspecting unarmed civilians all over the world.

True story.

What uniform should they don? They have no army. They are just civilians defending their country.

Go to Google
Type Hamas
Click Images

You will see their army and uniforms.

 

[Roudy]

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

Terrorists are not considered civilians. You can play the victim card all you want and try to make all Palestinians look innocent but ALL OF HAMAS and ALL OF ISLAMIC JIHAD are military targets.

Your constant parotting of Palestinian propaganda wont change anything

And citizens of an occupying power are not considered civilians either.

BTW, where does it say that terrorists are not considered civilians?

First of all, Israel is not an occupying power, second of all when civilians such as women and children are targeted intentionally as Hamas animals do all the time, it is always considered terrorism.

Tinmore thinks it's okay for Hamas to target civilians but not okay for Israel to defend itself against the savages. Just another terrorist lover justifying Islamic barbarism.

 

[Roudy]

This thread was started with the delusional concept of "why Arabs will eventually win" and eventually settled into the reality of "why Arabs will eventually loose".

Actually it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Arabs have already lost, many time over, but let's cut them some slack.

 

[Vigilante]

Any people, and I repeat, ANY ******* PEOPLE, that use their children to kill, and to be killed, deserve no better than to be wiped off the face of the earth. Even animals protect their young, it's what LIFE is about....except for SCUM!!!!!

And the muslim's complain that Jews kill their young while they PROMOTE their children's death!....They are a VIRUS upon this planet, that must be eradicated! How many more need to die at these bastards hands?

 

[Statistikhengst]

This thread was started with the delusional concept of "why Arabs will eventually win" and eventually settled into the reality of "why Arabs will eventually loose".

Actually it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Arabs have already lost, many time over, but let's cut them some slack.

Who knows, with some love, knishes and a little bit of luck, we may even be able to pull them, screaming, dragging their feet and howling like banshees, into the 21st century.

Stay tuned.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Blah, blah, blah, same old Israeli bullcrap.

Tinmore is loosing it because he can't admit that Hamas has an army of terrorists. Ha ha ha.

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

 

[Roudy]

Tinmore is loosing it because he can't admit that Hamas has an army of terrorists. Ha ha ha.

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

No, he likes repeating the same made up garbage over and over.

 

[Sally]

Isn't it nice how others prefer to live regardless of what they have in life --

I can say the same thing about jews and their "so-called" ancestral homeland.

"Isn't it nice how others prefer to live regardless of "where" they have in life".

What's the big ******* deal about coming back to the mythical lands of the diaspora?

You like to trash others about their passions in life, well, yours ain't that hot, either, little missy.

from the poorest person to the richest, but the Arabs are looking forward to that brothel in Paradise where they will be waited on hand and foot by those beautiful houris. That is why you see the Muslims in many parts of the world blowing themselves up (of course taking innocent others along with them) to attain this Paradise. What kind of pride is it that keeps your own people in misery for years and years instead of getting on with life. As for justice, why don't the Muslims give back the land that they took from others -- such as the Copts, the Assyrians, the Chaldeans, etc.? [/quote

]Why don't you give back the land you took from them?

Has anyone seen this phony baloney, who claims he is a Catholic parochial school boy, ever condemning what the Muslims are doing to his fellow Catholics in the Muslim world. He closes his eyes to all of this and his little old anti-Semitic self only concentrates on the Jews and Israel. Say, can the Christians in the Middle East have their land back. Billy? After all, the Christian people living there now are the descendents of the original Christians and can't practice their religion in peace? They didn't ask to be invaded by the Muslims? Evidently since it doesn't involve the Jews, Billy has no interest in calling for justice for his fellow Catholics in the Muslim world. Does anyone in their right mind think that Billy actually cares about the Palestinians? If he really cared about the Palestinians, he would also care for the Arabs who are being killed by Muslims in the Middle East practically every day of the week.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tinmore is loosing it because he can't admit that Hamas has an army of terrorists. Ha ha ha.

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

None of them are government military forces.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Tinmore is loosing it because he can't admit that Hamas has an army of terrorists. Ha ha ha.

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

True!

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

None of them are government military forces.

That is convenient, Tinmore.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Isn't it nice how others prefer to live regardless of what they have in life --

I can say the same thing about jews and their "so-called" ancestral homeland.

"Isn't it nice how others prefer to live regardless of "where" they have in life".

What's the big ******* deal about coming back to the mythical lands of the diaspora?

You like to trash others about their passions in life, well, yours ain't that hot, either, little missy.

from the poorest person to the richest, but the Arabs are looking forward to that brothel in Paradise where they will be waited on hand and foot by those beautiful houris. That is why you see the Muslims in many parts of the world blowing themselves up (of course taking innocent others along with them) to attain this Paradise. What kind of pride is it that keeps your own people in misery for years and years instead of getting on with life. As for justice, why don't the Muslims give back the land that they took from others -- such as the Copts, the Assyrians, the Chaldeans, etc.? [/quote

]Why don't you give back the land you took from them?

Has anyone seen this phony baloney, who claims he is a Catholic parochial school boy, ever condemning what the Muslims are doing to his fellow Catholics in the Muslim world. He closes his eyes to all of this and his little old anti-Semitic self only concentrates on the Jews and Israel. Say, can the Christians in the Middle East have their land back. Billy? After all, the Christian people living there now are the descendents of the original Christians and can't practice their religion in peace? They didn't ask to be invaded by the Muslims? Evidently since it doesn't involve the Jews, Billy has no interest in calling for justice for his fellow Catholics in the Muslim world. Does anyone in their right mind think that Billy actually cares about the Palestinians? If he really cared about the Palestinians, he would also care for the Arabs who are being killed by Muslims in the Middle East practically every day of the week.

When the propaganda warfare was at its height, Sally, Israel didn't see the damage it was doing against them. I think Billy really believes he is defending the underdog here but the truth is often hidden. Even once know it is inconvenient and unpopular. The truth is the Israelis are the underdog in this fight and they didn't get out in front of this early enough. ( propaganda weapon used to turn world against them ) Nevertheless, Israel was reborn from the ovens of Aushwitz. A horrifying thought that this was the cost of Israel rebirth but in light of that fact what do Billy and those who think like him believe Israel is willing to sacrifice in order to never allow it to happen again? I believe Israel is prepared to do whatever it takes and people need to realize that if they were in the shoes of the Israelis they would feel the exact same way! ( Israel has the stronger will to win this battle )

One holocaust was too much. It is time to find another place for these long lost palestinian people - perhaps Egypt or Jordan. This is definitely not working out.

 

[Sally]

I can say the same thing about jews and their "so-called" ancestral homeland.

"Isn't it nice how others prefer to live regardless of "where" they have in life".

What's the big ******* deal about coming back to the mythical lands of the diaspora?

You like to trash others about their passions in life, well, yours ain't that hot, either, little missy.





Has anyone seen this phony baloney, who claims he is a Catholic parochial school boy, ever condemning what the Muslims are doing to his fellow Catholics in the Muslim world. He closes his eyes to all of this and his little old anti-Semitic self only concentrates on the Jews and Israel. Say, can the Christians in the Middle East have their land back. Billy? After all, the Christian people living there now are the descendents of the original Christians and can't practice their religion in peace? They didn't ask to be invaded by the Muslims? Evidently since it doesn't involve the Jews, Billy has no interest in calling for justice for his fellow Catholics in the Muslim world. Does anyone in their right mind think that Billy actually cares about the Palestinians? If he really cared about the Palestinians, he would also care for the Arabs who are being killed by Muslims in the Middle East practically every day of the week.

When the propaganda warfare was at its height, Sally, Israel didn't see the damage it was doing against them. I think Billy really believes he is defending the underdog here but the truth is often hidden. Even once know it is inconvenient and unpopular. The truth is the Israelis are the underdog in this fight and they didn't get out in front of this early enough. ( propaganda weapon used to turn world against them ) Nevertheless, Israel was reborn from the ovens of Aushwitz. A horrifying thought that this was the cost of Israel rebirth but in light of that fact what do Billy and those who think like him believe Israel is willing to sacrifice in order to never allow it to happen again? I believe Israel is prepared to do whatever it takes and people need to realize that if they were in the shoes of the Israelis they would feel the exact same way! ( Israel has the stronger will to win this battle )

One holocaust was too much. It is time to find another place for these long lost palestinian people - perhaps Egypt or Jordan. This is definitely not working out.

I have to disagree with you here. I don't think that Billy believes he is defending the underdog. I think he is just using the Palestinians as pawns. If he were truly defending the underdog, he would have been condemning all the atrocities committed on the religious minorities in the Middle East. On this he has been very, very silent even though those members of these minorities are being murdered all the time.

 

[Roudy]

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

None of them are government military forces.

Tinmore...Anybody ever tell you when in hole stop digging?

Now you are claiming Hamas does not have a military wing? At least if you are going to lie say something believable.

 

[P F Tinmore]

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

None of them are government military forces.

Tinmore...Anybody ever tell you when in hole stop digging?

Now you are claiming Hamas does not have a military wing? At least if you are going to lie say something believable.

No I am not.

 

[Roudy]

None of them are government military forces.

Tinmore...Anybody ever tell you when in hole stop digging?

Now you are claiming Hamas does not have a military wing? At least if you are going to lie say something believable.

No I am not.

Then what are you claiming. Hamas is the govt. and totally in charge of Gaza and controls a huge army of terrorists, for which it receives armaments such as rockets, bombs, etc. and money from Muslim entities. None of the other terrorist groups in Gaza dare to breath without Hamas' permission.

Like I said, stop digging:

Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hamas (Arabic: حماس* Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] organization, with an associated military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades,[6] located in the Palestinian territories.

The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas's military wing formed in 1992, is named in commemoration of influential Palestinian nationalist Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam. Armed Hamas cells sometimes refer to themselves as "Students of Ayyash", "Students of the Engineer", or "Yahya Ayyash Units", to commemorate Yahya Ayyash, an early Hamas bomb-maker killed in 1996

The brigades have a substantial weapons inventory of light automatic weapons and grenades, improvised rockets, mortars, bombs, suicide belts and explosives. The group engages in military style training, including training which take place in Gaza itself on a range of weapons designed to inflict significant casualties on military targets.
While the number of members is known only to the Brigades leadership, in 2011 Israel estimated that the Brigades have a core of several hundred members who receive military style training, including training in Iran and Syria. Additionally, the brigades have an estimated 10,000 operatives "of varying degrees of skill and professionalism" who are members of the internal security forces, Hamas and their supporters. These operatives can be expected to reinforce the Brigades in an "emergency situation".

According to a statement by CIA director George Tenet in 2000, Hamas has pursued a capability to conduct attacks with toxic chemicals. There have been reports of Hamas operatives planning and preparing attacks incorporating chemicals. In one case, nails and bolts packed into explosives detonated by a Hamas suicide bomber in a December 2001 attack at the Ben-Yehuda street in Jerusalem were soaked in rat poison.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Tinmore...Anybody ever tell you when in hole stop digging?

Now you are claiming Hamas does not have a military wing? At least if you are going to lie say something believable.

No I am not.

Then what are you claiming. Hamas is the govt. and totally in charge of Gaza and controls a huge army of terrorists, for which it receives armaments such as rockets, bombs, etc. and money from Muslim entities. None of the other terrorist groups in Gaza dare to breath without Hamas' permission.

Like I said, stop digging:

Hamas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hamas (Arabic: حماس* Ḥamās, "enthusiasm", an acronym of حركة المقاومة الاسلامية Ḥarakat al-Muqāwamah al-ʾIslāmiyyah, "Islamic Resistance Movement") is the Palestinian Sunni Islamic or Islamist[5] organization, with an associated military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades,[6] located in the Palestinian territories.

The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas's military wing formed in 1992, is named in commemoration of influential Palestinian nationalist Sheikh Izz ad-Din al-Qassam. Armed Hamas cells sometimes refer to themselves as "Students of Ayyash", "Students of the Engineer", or "Yahya Ayyash Units", to commemorate Yahya Ayyash, an early Hamas bomb-maker killed in 1996

The brigades have a substantial weapons inventory of light automatic weapons and grenades, improvised rockets, mortars, bombs, suicide belts and explosives. The group engages in military style training, including training which take place in Gaza itself on a range of weapons designed to inflict significant casualties on military targets.
While the number of members is known only to the Brigades leadership, in 2011 Israel estimated that the Brigades have a core of several hundred members who receive military style training, including training in Iran and Syria. Additionally, the brigades have an estimated 10,000 operatives "of varying degrees of skill and professionalism" who are members of the internal security forces, Hamas and their supporters. These operatives can be expected to reinforce the Brigades in an "emergency situation".

According to a statement by CIA director George Tenet in 2000, Hamas has pursued a capability to conduct attacks with toxic chemicals. There have been reports of Hamas operatives planning and preparing attacks incorporating chemicals. In one case, nails and bolts packed into explosives detonated by a Hamas suicide bomber in a December 2001 attack at the Ben-Yehuda street in Jerusalem were soaked in rat poison.

It is still not an army. It is not controlled by the government and it is not funded by the government.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Read about them here:

Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

Palestine has no army.

They are all civilians.

There is no Palestine.

But the PA does have an army: both Fatah and Hamas have trained forces. You do understand this simple fact, right?

None of them are government military forces.

What not even the hamas militia that fire rockets at Israeli children. What a LYING POS ISLAMONAZI you are