Why Science Accepts Anthropogenic Global Warming and Tells Us We Need to Act

[Robert W]

Go back to bed bozo …..

Thanks for the invitation but hell no, I do not go to bed with perverts.

 

[Dagosa]

Poster EMH is not talking about all balloon data but a specific set gathered many years ago that was found to have calibration problems. The same with his satellite data. The instance was quite a puzzle because the balloon data and satellite data roughly agreed with each other but disagreed with all other temperature data being gathered. The folks in charge of it, Christy and Spencer of course, disagreed with the rest of the world and insisted theirs was right. Eventually, though, it became obvious that the balloons and the satellite both had problems that left them both about equally wrong and even Christy and Spencer were finally convinced. EMH's claims are ALL based on data taken back in the early 2000s. He believes everything since, including the corrected data that Christy and Spencer now back, is fraudulent.

Best of luck with him.

EMH is just a delusional nimrod looking for attention and just recycles crappola for attention.

 

[Dagosa]

Thanks for the invitation but hell no, I do not go to bed with perverts.

You are one.

 

[Robert W]

You are one.

Stop inviting me to your bed.

 

[Dagosa]

Stop inviting me to your bed.

Pervert.

 

[Robert W]

Pervert.

That describes you and explains why you want me in bed.

 

[EMH]

Poster EMH is not talking about all balloon data but a specific set gathered many years ago that was found to have calibration problems. The same with his satellite data. The instance was quite a puzzle because the balloon data and satellite data roughly agreed with each other but disagreed with all other temperature data being gathered. The folks in charge of it, Christy and Spencer of course, disagreed with the rest of the world and insisted theirs was right. Eventually, though, it became obvious that the balloons and the satellite both had problems that left them both about equally wrong and even Christy and Spencer were finally convinced. EMH's claims are ALL based on data taken back in the early 2000s. He believes everything since, including the corrected data that Christy and Spencer now back, is fraudulent.

Best of luck with him.

LOL!!!

Let's go over that one closely. What were the climate "scientists'" excuses for FUDGING the highly correlated satellite and balloon data in 2005?

Key claim against global warming evaporates

Satellite and weather balloon data used to argue that climate models were wrong and that global warming isn't really happening turns out to be based on faulty analyses, according to three new studies.

www.nbcnews.com

"Sherwood explains these discrepancies by pointing out that the older radiosonde instruments used in the 1970's were not as well shielded from sunlight as more recent models"

Got that? A "shade issue" on OLDER MODELS in the 1970s (30 years earlier cough cough). Well, a shade issue would cause a CONSTANT change of the temp readings, and hence would require a CONSTANT added to every data, keeping a flat line a flat line, but somehow an "upward slope" emerged after the FUDGE JOB.


"The Alabama researchers introduced a correction factor to account for drifting in the satellites used to sample Earth's daily temperature cycles"

LOL!! They never even documented the satellites "drifted" and even if they did, the IR readings would be the same... and yes, they used this BS to FUDGE the satellites into an upward slope.


It really is the pathetic truth that the ONLY EVIDENCE that increasing atmospheric Co2 causes atmospheric warming is not from highly correlated satellite and balloon data, which never showed that. Rather, the "evidence" is a pathetically obvious FUDGE JOB that doesn't explain the FUDGING at all...

 

[EMH]

Thermal EM radiation is the only way the earth can cool.

LOL!!!

So the amount of ice on Earth has nothing to do with it. Earth with zero ice must be colder than Earth with 15 million cubic miles of it.... brilliant...

BTW - why is the Antarctic on average 50F colder than the Arctic?

 

[Dagosa]

LOL!!!

So the amount of ice on Earth has nothing to do with it. Earth with zero ice must be colder than Earth with 15 million cubic miles of it.... brilliant...

BTW - why is the Antarctic on average 50F colder than the Arctic?

Liar.

 

[Dagosa]

LOL!!!

So the amount of ice on Earth has nothing to do with it. Earth with zero ice must be colder than Earth with 15 million cubic miles of it.... brilliant...

BTW - why is the Antarctic on average 50F colder than the Arctic?

Maybe dufus, because Antartica is higher than the Arctic…..you are a dumbass. You never knew that higher elevations were cooler did you, and long as you live in yo mana’s basement, you never will.

 

[EMH]

Antartica is higher than the Arctic

because its ice is 2+ miles thick.... duh...

Antarctica 90% of Earth ice
Greenland 7%

amazing the polar circle with more ice is colder....

 

[Dagosa]

because its ice is 2+ miles thick.... duh...

Antarctica 90% of Earth ice
Greenland 7%

amazing the polar circle with more ice is colder....

Snow ice over land stoooopid. . You don’t think it should be colder two miles up ? You’re an idiot.
You don’t have a fking clue what snow ice is do you dumbass. It’s colder two miles up. You asked why it’s colder ? Then you claim because it’s two miles higher and covered with snow ice. What a dufus. No shit.

 

[Dagosa]

because its ice is 2+ miles thick.... duh...

Antarctica 90% of Earth ice
Greenland 7%

amazing the polar circle with more ice is colder....

Post your source dufus. No shit. It’s colder 2 miles up.
Btw, Where did you get those numbers ?

 

[San Souci]

If the Earth had no atmosphere, the planet's average temperature would be 58F (32C) cooler. Adding back just the oxygen and nitrogen would have almost NO effect on the temperature. That 58F of warming is due almost ENTIRELY to the greenhouse effect acting on two components of our atmosphere. About two-thirds is due to water vapor and one-third to carbon dioxide (CO2). The other components having greenhouse effects are methane, nitrous oxide, chloro- and hydrofluorocarbons.

The Earth began warming with the advent of the Industrial Revolution when the use of steam engines and then internal combustion engines grew rapidly, all fueled with hydrocarbon fossil fuels. The Earth is now warming at a historically extreme rate; twenty five times as rapidly as the Earth moved from glacial to interglacial states over the last 3 million years. That warming has been studied extensively for decades by scientists all over the planet. Their near-universal conclusion is that the primary cause of that warming is the greenhouse effect acting on CO2 emitted by humans burning fossil fuels (coal, petroleum, natural gas) for energy and transportation.

Up until the invention of the steam engine, CO2 in our atmosphere stayed in the range of 280 - 300 ppm for almost 3 million years. It is now just breaching 420 ppm, a 50% increase in the gas responsible for one-third of all greenhouse warming. That warming is reinforced by positive feedback from increased humidity in the Earth's atmosphere; water vapor is the most effective greenhouse gas but as a precipitable component of the atmosphere, changes only in response to temperature changes brought about by other agents. Atmospheric CO2 levels are also increased by deforestation and the thawing of frozen tundra.

The warming has numerous effects, many of which are harmful. Aside from its impact on all life forms via more frequent and more intense heat waves, we are experiencing sea level rise and increased ice melt. The energy that drives weather comes from the sun via the atmosphere and the hydrosphere. As global warming increases the energy available for weather, the average intensity of weather will increase. Increased temperatures are causing glaciers and snowpack to disappear. That decreases the Earth's albedo, decreasing the amount of solar radiation reflected back to space and providing more positive feedback. Increased meltwater from the poles is reducing the density of water there and thus the drive for the overturning currents responsible for the basis of almost the entire marine food chain as well as the temperate climate of Europe

Currently, thirty percent of human CO2 emissions are absorbed by the world's oceans. CO2 in aqueous solution produces carbonic acid which reduces the oceans pH (makes it more acidic). That change affects numerous biochemical reactions utilized by marine life, in particular the ability to fix carbonates into shells, exoskeletons and corals. The loss of corals will expose thousands of miles of coastlines to higher wave energies causing increased erosion and coastal flooding.

So, while some argue that added CO2 will increase agricultural production in some locales and that warming will be welcome by some residents in high latitude settings, the balance of warming effects are and will continue to be overwhelmingly negative.

TOPICS TO EXPLORE

How Do We Know that Humans Are the Source of the Increased CO2?

How Do We Know that CO2 is the Cause of the Warming?

How Do We Know that Warming Will be Harmful?

What Are Tipping Points and Have We Crossed Any?

References

What is the greenhouse effect? - NASA Science

The greenhouse effect is the process through which heat is trapped near Earth's surface by substances known as 'greenhouse gases.' Imagine these gases as a

science.nasa.gov

Causes - NASA Science

Scientists attribute the global warming trend observed since the mid-20th century to the human expansion of the "greenhouse effect"1 — warming that results

science.nasa.gov

Effects - NASA Science

Global climate change is not a future problem. Changes to Earth’s climate driven by increased human emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases are already

science.nasa.gov

What is Ocean Acidification?

Ocean acidification refers to a reduction in the pH of the ocean over an extended period time, caused primarily by uptake of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere.

oceanservice.noaa.gov

So the Temp has been the same for 5 BILLION years until 1900?

 

[Dagosa]

So the Temp has been the same for 5 BILLION years until 1900?

And man has not been able to evolve during the vast majority of time.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

If the Earth had no atmosphere, the planet's average temperature would be 58F (32C) cooler. Adding back just the oxygen and nitrogen would have almost NO effect on the temperature. That 58F of warming is due almost ENTIRELY to the greenhouse effect acting on two components of our atmosphere. About two-thirds is due to water vapor and one-third to carbon dioxide (CO2). The other components having greenhouse effects are methane, nitrous oxide, chloro- and hydrofluorocarbons.

The Earth began warming with the advent of the Industrial Revolution when the use of steam engines and then internal combustion engines grew rapidly, all fueled with hydrocarbon fossil fuels. The Earth is now warming at a historically extreme rate; twenty five times as rapidly as the Earth moved from glacial to interglacial states over the last 3 million years. That warming has been studied extensively for decades by scientists all over the planet. Their near-universal conclusion is that the primary cause of that warming is the greenhouse effect acting on CO2 emitted by humans burning fossil fuels (coal, petroleum, natural gas) for energy and transportation.

Up until the invention of the steam engine, CO2 in our atmosphere stayed in the range of 280 - 300 ppm for almost 3 million years. It is now just breaching 420 ppm, a 50% increase in the gas responsible for one-third of all greenhouse warming. That warming is reinforced by positive feedback from increased humidity in the Earth's atmosphere; water vapor is the most effective greenhouse gas but as a precipitable component of the atmosphere, changes only in response to temperature changes brought about by other agents. Atmospheric CO2 levels are also increased by deforestation and the thawing of frozen tundra.

The warming has numerous effects, many of which are harmful. Aside from its impact on all life forms via more frequent and more intense heat waves, we are experiencing sea level rise and increased ice melt. The energy that drives weather comes from the sun via the atmosphere and the hydrosphere. As global warming increases the energy available for weather, the average intensity of weather will increase. Increased temperatures are causing glaciers and snowpack to disappear. That decreases the Earth's albedo, decreasing the amount of solar radiation reflected back to space and providing more positive feedback. Increased meltwater from the poles is reducing the density of water there and thus the drive for the overturning currents responsible for the basis of almost the entire marine food chain as well as the temperate climate of Europe

Currently, thirty percent of human CO2 emissions are absorbed by the world's oceans. CO2 in aqueous solution produces carbonic acid which reduces the oceans pH (makes it more acidic). That change affects numerous biochemical reactions utilized by marine life, in particular the ability to fix carbonates into shells, exoskeletons and corals. The loss of corals will expose thousands of miles of coastlines to higher wave energies causing increased erosion and coastal flooding.

So, while some argue that added CO2 will increase agricultural production in some locales and that warming will be welcome by some residents in high latitude settings, the balance of warming effects are and will continue to be overwhelmingly negative.

TOPICS TO EXPLORE

How Do We Know that Humans Are the Source of the Increased CO2?

How Do We Know that CO2 is the Cause of the Warming?

How Do We Know that Warming Will be Harmful?

What Are Tipping Points and Have We Crossed Any?

References

What is the greenhouse effect? - NASA Science

The greenhouse effect is the process through which heat is trapped near Earth's surface by substances known as 'greenhouse gases.' Imagine these gases as a

science.nasa.gov

Causes - NASA Science

Scientists attribute the global warming trend observed since the mid-20th century to the human expansion of the "greenhouse effect"1 — warming that results

science.nasa.gov

Effects - NASA Science

Global climate change is not a future problem. Changes to Earth’s climate driven by increased human emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases are already

science.nasa.gov

What is Ocean Acidification?

Ocean acidification refers to a reduction in the pH of the ocean over an extended period time, caused primarily by uptake of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere.

oceanservice.noaa.gov

This thread needs trucks

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I’m so old I remember when climate change caused wildfires

 

[EMH]

Post your source dufus. No shit. It’s colder 2 miles up.
Btw, Where did you get those numbers ?

LOL!!

The Co2 FRAUD is actively censoring ICE TRUTH...

LOL!!

REFUTE THOSE OR STFU!!!

 

[EMH]

I’m so old I remember when climate change caused wildfires

One of the Co2 FRAUD's misdiagnosing truth. The fires are caused by too many humans sucking too much fresh water from finite land based sources. The Co2 FRAUD is blaming this years fires on itself too. The Co2 FRAUD blocks real solutions like desalination, and is 100% for open borders, increasing the number of humans in America sucking its water tables dry.

And of course, if Earth was warming, which it isn't, it would get WETTER, as it did in the past...

Google Search

During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today


and surface air pressure was much higher, which is what happens when Earth has no land near the poles...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One of the Co2 FRAUD's misdiagnosing truth. The fires are caused by too many humans sucking too much fresh water from finite land based sources. The Co2 FRAUD is blaming this years fires on itself too. The Co2 FRAUD blocks real solutions like desalination, and is 100% for open borders, increasing the number of humans in America sucking its water tables dry.

And of course, if Earth was warming, which it isn't, it would get WETTER, as it did in the past...

Google Search

During the Jurassic Period, the Earth's climate was much warmer and wetter than it is today


and surface air pressure was much higher, which is what happens when Earth has no land near the poles...

The video shows environmentalists starting the fires