Why most conservatives don't trust the MSM...

[Dragonlady]

They don’t trust the MSM because it doesn’t tell them what they want to hear.

No it doesn't. They want to hear the news, unbiased and straightforward. And the MSM definitely does NOT provide that.

Conservatives have no interest in unbiased media. If they did, they would never watch FOX, the MOST biased, unreliable and worst run media in the US.

Where other outlets fire reporters who put out false stories, Hannity got sent “on vacation” when he broadcast the Seth Rich story. FOX retracted the story saying that it failed to meet their “journalistic standards”.

Despite the lawsuits sgainst FOX for this program, FOX commentators and guests continue to push this notion that Seth Rich gave the DNC emails to WiliLeaks. Roger Stone said it was Gucifer 2.0 who hacked the DNC, and the Dutch said they had evidence the Russians hacked the DNC. Gucifer has been unmasked as a member of Russian military intelligence, but FOX continues to push the Seth Rich narrative.

There are so many more examples. FOX has been pushing right wing narratives for years and truth be damned.

 

[usmbguest5318]

All that fancy talk and can you explain why liberals were sampled at 3 times the rate of conservatives?

But no, there IS NO BIAS in the media. Sure there isn't.

That would be why Bernie Goldberg wrote a book entitled "BIAS" from working at CBS for decades.

All that fancy talk and can you explain why liberals were sampled at 3 times the rate of conservatives?

Are you asking me? If so, I don't need to because the researchers explained that in the methodology section of their report.

 

[Faun]

MSM,MSG, M.O.U.S.E. Avoid them all.

Good idea, you should probably avoid reality.

 

[Faun]

They don’t trust the MSM because it doesn’t tell them what they want to hear.

No it doesn't. They want to hear the news, unbiased and straightforward. And the MSM definitely does NOT provide that.

Conservatives have no interest in unbiased media. If they did, they would never watch FOX, the MOST biased, unreliable and worst run media in the US.

Where other outlets fire reporters who put out false stories, Hannity got sent “on vacation” when he broadcast the Seth Rich story. FOX retracted the story saying that it failed to meet their “journalistic standards”.

Despite the lawsuits sgainst FOX for this program, FOX commentators and guests continue to push this notion that Seth Rich gave the DNC emails to WiliLeaks. Roger Stone said it was Gucifer 2.0 who hacked the DNC, and the Dutch said they had evidence the Russians hacked the DNC. Gucifer has been unmasked as a member of Russian military intelligence, but FOX continues to push the Seth Rich narrative.

There are so many more examples. FOX has been pushing right wing narratives for years and truth be damned.

Fox is MSM

 

[usmbguest5318]

All that fancy talk and can you explain why liberals were sampled at 3 times the rate of conservatives?

But no, there IS NO BIAS in the media. Sure there isn't.

That would be why Bernie Goldberg wrote a book entitled "BIAS" from working at CBS for decades.

You people are just fucking crazy, that’s the reason. Even after it’s explained, you still can’t understand.

Here, maybe this can help you?

Why You Shouldn’t Trust ‘Polls’ Conducted Online

The report shows that the mainstream polls oversample an average of 29 percent more Democrats than Republicans and the results skew anti-Trump. The result is that it robs Trump of about 8 points in his approval ratings, from 46 percent to 38 percent, it said.
"In every poll, Democrat respondents outnumbered Republicans by significant amounts.
The Economist poll was the worst.
Only 24 percent of respondents (360) were Republicans compared to 38 percent (570) Democrats – which means that 58 percent more Democrats were polled than Republicans, as shown in the %D/R column.
On average, in these seven widely recognized national polls, only 29 percent (409 people) of the total 1,383 polled were Republicans, while 37 percent (518) were Democrats. Another way of saying it is that, on average, 29 percent more Democrats than Republicans were polled," wrote James Simpson, an economist, businessman and journalist.

'Fraud': Mainstream polls use 29% more Democrats than Republicans

It is consistently the way pollsters influence public opinion which influences politicians that make policies that affect all our lives.
It is wrong and only through educating more people that the MSM IS biased that headlines/30 second sound bites should be questioned and NOT believed!

I've constantly used the example "Trump anti-immigrant" and as this Google search shows..
Look at the headlines.."Trump's Anti-Immigrant Racism"... "Anti-Immigrant Agenda"...
Why don't they be honest and use the accurate word "ILLEGAL"?
With those biased headlines the MSM doesn't seem to realize they are not only calling Trump "anti-immigrant" (who by the way has a LEGAL Immigrant for a wife who like millions of
"LEGAL" immigrants like relatives of mine renounced their country's citizenship to become Americans!) The MSM seems to forget that over 90 million Americans like me or like my "LEGAL" immigrant relatives are grossly offended and consequently DISBELIEVE anything the MSM puts out because these 90 million plus Trump ARE NOT ANTI-IMMIGRANT!
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Democrats also outnumber Republicans. And despite oversampling Democrats, scientific polling is very accurate. Almost always coming within the Margin of error, which is all that is expected.

Exactly. I don't know what makes people think otherwise with regard to a poll whereof the received answers to the poll's questions are the end for which the poll was conducted.

Reading the responses/remarks in this thread, I can tell immediately that the writers of them exist in one of three states of mind as goes their understanding of research, polling and statistics:

• State of Mind 1:
  • Understands the difference between a survey conducted for its own sake and a survey that is little other than a "net" for gathering data, and applies that contextual understanding to the poll noted in the study that inspired this thread and to other polls.
• State of Mind 2:
  
  • Understands the difference between a survey conducted for its own sake and a survey that is little other than a "net" for gathering data, and deliberately, in accordance with some whim, does not apply that contextual understanding to the poll noted in the study that inspired this thread and to other polls.
• State of Mind 3:
  • Does not understand the difference between a survey conducted for its own sake and a survey that is little other than a "net" for gathering data, and is just "running their mouth" for whatever reason they conjure to do so.

Democrats also outnumber Republicans. And despite oversampling Democrats, scientific polling is very accurate. Almost always coming within the Margin of error, which is all that is expected.

FWIW:

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[healthmyths]

They don’t trust the MSM because it doesn’t tell them what they want to hear.

No it doesn't. They want to hear the news, unbiased and straightforward. And the MSM definitely does NOT provide that.

Conservatives have no interest in unbiased media. If they did, they would never watch FOX, the MOST biased, unreliable and worst run media in the US.

Where other outlets fire reporters who put out false stories, Hannity got sent “on vacation” when he broadcast the Seth Rich story. FOX retracted the story saying that it failed to meet their “journalistic standards”.

Despite the lawsuits sgainst FOX for this program, FOX commentators and guests continue to push this notion that Seth Rich gave the DNC emails to WiliLeaks. Roger Stone said it was Gucifer 2.0 who hacked the DNC, and the Dutch said they had evidence the Russians hacked the DNC. Gucifer has been unmasked as a member of Russian military intelligence, but FOX continues to push the Seth Rich narrative.

There are so many more examples. FOX has been pushing right wing narratives for years and truth be damned.

Fox is MSM

HEY I don't disagree with anything you are saying about FOX being "right wing narratives"! I 100% agree!
BUT they are the ONLY major cable MSM that IS pushing the "right wing narrative" which compared to the extremely biased LEFT wing MSM, Fox appears BALANCED!

When you read/hear headlines/30 sec sound bites consider these really bad MSM biased presentations!

Without further ado, here are our 10 most mortifying media moments of 2017:

10 — It’s Our Job to Tell You What to Think. During a February broadcast of “Morning Joe,” co-host Mika Brzezinski chastised Trump for telling Americans to be skeptical of the press, worrying Americans may trust him over her media colleagues. “He could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that, that is our job."

9 — ABC Botches Biggest Story of Year. Shortly after Michael Flynn was indicted for lying to the FBI, ABC’s Brian Ross broke what appeared to be a massive scoop: that during the campaign, Trump instructed him to coordinate with Russia. This led to reporters giddily anticipating the apparently inevitable downfall of Trump, which no one highlighted better than Joy Behar, who literally shouted “Yes!” after delivering Ross’s “scoop.” The only problem is the story was completely wrong; it was then President Elect Trump who had given these (very normal) instructions, just as President Elect Obama had reached out to Iran during his own transition. Ross was subsequently suspended for the “serious error.”

8 — Late-Night Leftism. When Sens. Lindsey Graham and Bill Cassidy sponsored a health-care reform bill that would have given states more flexibility to operate health-care exchanges, ABC’s Jimmy Kimmel abandoned comedy altogether and instead used his show to rally his audience against the bill. After turning “Jimmy Kimmel Tonight” into a platform for nauseating left-wing sermonizing, he was dubbed “America’s Conscience” by his colleagues in the media.

7 — Hillary, Our Hero. After spending months hunting for an opportunity to expose a Trump scandal, Hillary published her book on the 2016 race (“What Happened”) and went on a whirlwind publicity tour, where reporters treated the scandal-scarred former First Lady to chardonnay, flattery & panda videos.

6 — ‘Reporting’ as an Excuse for Venting. All too often in 2017, “reporting” on the Trump Administration became synonymous with “venting.” Mika Brzezinksi, for example, used the opportunity of reporting on a Trump tweet to say (all in one sentence) that the president has no morals, is a bully, acts like a bigot, is racist, and is a sexual harasser. The New York Time’s Tom Friedman, commenting on a torrent of news from the Trump Administration, said that “from a journalism perspective” Trump is like a “brain eating disease.” Former reporter Mark Halperin said the election of Trump was a “more cataclysmic event” than 9/11.

5 — Let’s Impeach Trump Already! After President Trump fired FBI director James Comey, the media appeared certain he’d just committed his first impeachable offense. Almost without fail, Democratic guests appearing on TV in May were expected to announce when they would initiate impeachment proceedings against the president.

4 — Vegas Scapegoating. When an atrocity of inexplicable scale struck Las Vegas, Americans demanded answers. When those were slow in coming, the media turned their sights on Republicans, blaming gun rights for the tragedy. (Note: They did the same thing after the mass shooting in Texas.)

3 — Abandoning Any Sense of Perspective. After Donald Trump Jr. acknowledged accepting a meeting a sketchy Russian lawyer who said she had dirt on Hillary Clinton, reporters and others in the media jumped the rhetorical shark, calling it a case of “treason.” Yet months later it was reported the Clinton campaign solicited anti-Trump gossip from Kremlin agents (via their intermediary, Fusion GPS), an arguably far worse ethical lapse, and these same talking heads were curiously quiet. Flashback: How the Media Went Hysterical over Don Jr.’s Willingness to Accept Russian Dirt on Hillary

2 — Emoting as Reporting. Just weeks into the Trump Administration, MSNBC’s Mika Brzezinski was struggling. The emotional toll was already too much; after Trump had tweeted that the Trump Tower had been wiretapped, she could no longer take it, telling viewers it was OK to be scared. “We’re all really nervous, too,” she emoted.

1 — Reporters Treat Obama to One Final Slobberfest. In President Obama’s final appearance before the White House press corps, reporters used the opportunity to … shower him with praise, adulation, and hagiography. These sycophantic reporters were seemingly competing to see who could offer Obama the most effusive praise. That honor may have gone to The Blade’s Chris Johnson, who itemized to the president what he felt were his greatest accomplishments -- before inviting him to bash Trump. Or the LA Times’ Christi Parsons, who begged the president to call her (while pointing at her phone), and telling him it’s been “an honor” covering his administration. Her actual question? How he was going to explain the election of Trump to his children.

Montage: The 10 Most Mortifying Media Moments of 2017

 

[usmbguest5318]

All that fancy talk and can you explain why liberals were sampled at 3 times the rate of conservatives?

But no, there IS NO BIAS in the media. Sure there isn't.

That would be why Bernie Goldberg wrote a book entitled "BIAS" from working at CBS for decades.

All that fancy talk

News flash: If the post below is the one to which you're referring, there's no "fancy talk" in it. Indeed, it "should be easily understood by 20 to 21 year olds." Since I think I'm communicating with grownups, and I'm not at all interested here in chatting with minors (or folks having the reading ability/mental acuity thereof), I'm fine with that. I'm not trying to write fancy -- that's the writing of literature, not that of the matters discussed here -- but neither am I making any effort to communicate with children.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
-- Arthur C. Clarke, Profiles of the Future: An Inquiry Into the Limits of the Possible​

Wow! Just wow. Have you no self-respect?

The researchers clearly describe the two, not one but two, adjustment methods they used to determine whether the imbalance in ideological representation that they observed -- surely you didn't think they didn't notice it -- made a statistical difference in the representational faithfulness of the results and thus their predictive models. They provided readers with all the information they need to replicate those tests of representational faithfulness. As if that weren't enough, they explained their layman's terms, and then I even explained to you what was errant about your assessment of the methodology and the data.

And rather than apply their rationale -- or present your own representational faithfulness approach for verifying the statistical significance/non-significance of the imbalance ideological participation/representation -- you response is to essentially repeat the same insipid assertion you made in your opening post.

I think you truly (1) do not understand what the result of the study is, and (2) do not understand what the "Least and most trusted news sources" chart depicts..

1. The result of the study is that the two models the researchers developed to predict, using a very basic set of traits endemic to viewers/readers, how much trust individuals/groups of individuals will place in a given news source accurately (enough) predict how much or little trust those individuals/groups indeed place in the news source in question.
   
   What is the value of that finding? Well, had you clicked on the study summary's link to the project of which it's a part, you'd come upon very clear explanations of what the value of it is. In addition to the news organization and newsroom beneficiary germanity, there is also application of the findings for news organization customers/contributors, though I cannot say to what extent news organization customers/contributors or what genre of news organization customers/contributors would avail themselves of the noted models.
2. The "Least and most trusted news sources" chart is nothing other than a graphical summarization of the raw data gathered for the study. Based on the raw responses alone, conservatives haven't got a damn thing to gripe about. The Economist is a conservative magazine and the WSJ is a conservative paper, and given their quantity of responses, pretty much "everyone" -- liberal and conservative -- trust both. Reuters is also highly trusted by almost "everyone." (I suspect plenty of folks don't like the information they get from nearly universally trusted sources, but readers' liking news and information isn't an objective for serious news organizations.)

I could tell from your OP's comments that you've confused the survey with the study used to obtain raw data for study itself. Hopefully, you'll read this post and then go re-read (or comprehensively read) the study. It's not at all a difficult one to read, at least not as studies go. That said, it does call readers to put more effort into reading and comprehending it than do newspapers.

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[Rambunctious]

It was estimated that Trump's tax cuts would add $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years. Before the tax cuts, we were on pace to add $1 trillion in debt in a year. Now we're on pace to add $2.4 trillion. That's an additional $1.4 trillion more than before the tax cuts -- in one year.

Listen BOZO...we paid billions in new taxes and fees under Obama to fix our infrastructure and to kick start our economy but Obama had other things in mind for that revenue and it was to prop up the public sector....Only the super rich did well while Obama was in office now it's time to fix what Obama failed to fix and to give the middle class a break for a change and it's got you libs screaming like never before...
His tax cuts are working as designed and his regulation cuts are spawning new business ventures and the self employed little guy is back to earning a decent return on his or her efforts and you libs can't stand that it is working...
You can take your predictions and worries about debt and deficits and shove them...Or tell you what go whine to Obama about his 10 Trillion he added without it benefiting the people that earned those tax dollars....
So forgive us if your too little too late concerns over debt get a big fucking laugh!

 

[Faun]

It was estimated that Trump's tax cuts would add $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years. Before the tax cuts, we were on pace to add $1 trillion in debt in a year. Now we're on pace to add $2.4 trillion. That's an additional $1.4 trillion more than before the tax cuts -- in one year.

Listen BOZO...we paid billions in new taxes and fees under Obama to fix our infrastructure and to kick start our economy but Obama had other things in mind for that revenue and it was to prop up the public sector....Only the super rich did well while Obama was in office now it's time to fix what Obama failed to fix and to give the middle class a break for a change and it's got you libs screaming like never before...
His tax cuts are working as designed and his regulation cuts are spawning new business ventures and the self employed little guy is back to earning a decent return on his or her efforts and you libs can't stand that it is working...
You can take your predictions and worries about debt and deficits and shove them...Or tell you what go whine to Obama about his 10 Trillion he added without it benefiting the people that earned those tax dollars....
So forgive us if your too little too late concerns over debt get a big fucking laugh!

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

 

[Rambunctious]

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he will fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

 

[Faun]

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he will fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

The fiscal year ends at the end of September. 5 weeks before the November mid-term elections. How do you think America is going to vote when Trump and Republicans post a roughly $2 trillion deficit?

 

[harmonica]

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he wil'l fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

The fiscal year ends at the end of September. 5 weeks before the November mid-term elections. How do you think America is going to vote when Trump and Republicans post a roughly $2 trillion deficit?

I don't care --I'm voting Trump no matter what

 

[Faun]

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he wil'l fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

The fiscal year ends at the end of September. 5 weeks before the November mid-term elections. How do you think America is going to vote when Trump and Republicans post a roughly $2 trillion deficit?

I don't care --I'm voting Trump no matter what

LOL

Great, Trump will get 1 vote.

 

[harmonica]

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he wil'l fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

The fiscal year ends at the end of September. 5 weeks before the November mid-term elections. How do you think America is going to vote when Trump and Republicans post a roughly $2 trillion deficit?

I don't care --I'm voting Trump no matter what

LOL

Great, Trump will get 1 vote.

GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!MAGA

 

[Rambunctious]

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

Dumbfuck!!! that tax cut is for the people Obama ignored....don't tell me it has nothing to do with that fucker....the middle class was sinking...no investments no retirement no jobs...and raised taxes and regulation and a healthcare system no one in the middle class can afford...It has everything to do with Obama...the middle class needed relief...why do you think Trump won? stupid fuck! Why do you want to deny them the relief they most desperately need?
This is the cost of electing a dumbfuck twice that thinks as you do...pay up sucker....

 

[Faun]

You’re fucking deranged if you think it was designed for the tax cuts to add a trillion dollars to the debt for FY2018

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he wil'l fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

The fiscal year ends at the end of September. 5 weeks before the November mid-term elections. How do you think America is going to vote when Trump and Republicans post a roughly $2 trillion deficit?

I don't care --I'm voting Trump no matter what

LOL

Great, Trump will get 1 vote.

GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!MAGA

Adding a trillion dollars of debt per year (on top of the existing debt increases) is your idea of making America great again?



America is already great. This is just fucking us over.

 

[harmonica]

And you're fucking deranged to think that we can fix what the last president broke without taking on debt....we are going to have to add to the debt in order to fix the broken Obamacare system...secure our deliberately broken borders...repair our intentionally ignored roads, bridges, and infrastructure...
You are barking up the wrong tree Faun...you should be angry at the last administration for not doing what they said they would do with the stimulus money...
Did you really think we could elect and give two terms to Obama...8 years with a socialist in the white house without paying a price? This is what your stupidity has brought us....this is our penalty for electing a moron because he was black...
Live with it...
Now we have an America first president...he wil'l fix Obama's mess with you or without you...take your crying elsewhere....

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

The fiscal year ends at the end of September. 5 weeks before the November mid-term elections. How do you think America is going to vote when Trump and Republicans post a roughly $2 trillion deficit?

I don't care --I'm voting Trump no matter what

LOL

Great, Trump will get 1 vote.

GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!MAGA

Adding a trillion dollars of debt per year (on top of the existing debt increases) is your idea of making America great again?



America is already great. This is just fucking us over.

just as long as he makes the right decisions

 

[Rambunctious]

Adding a trillion dollars of debt per year (on top of the existing debt increases) is your idea of making America great again?

After your man Obama it has to be done...we warned you...he was not spending the stimulus money the way it was meant and now we have to pay...I blame snowflakes like you...

 

[Faun]

Dumbfuck. This has nothing to do with Obama. This additional trillion dollar deficit is due entirely to trump’s tax cut. Obama has nothing to do with that.

This is all on trump and Republicans.

Dumbfuck!!! that tax cut is for the people Obama ignored....don't tell me it has nothing to do with that fucker....the middle class was sinking...no investments no retirement no jobs...and raised taxes and regulation and a healthcare system no one in the middle class can afford...It has everything to do with Obama...the middle class needed relief...why do you think Trump won? stupid fuck! Why do you want to deny them the relief they most desperately need?
This is the cost of electing a dumbfuck twice that thinks as you do...pay up sucker....

Dumbfuck. We’re on track to having our first $2 trillion deficit in U.S. history.

One trillion dollars of which are attributable to trump’s tax cuts. By the time of the elections, Republicans will have controlled the House for almost 8 years. Controlled the Senate for going on 4 years and controlled the Executive branch for almost 2 years.

You can blame Obama for what he handed Trump but you won’t be able to blame him for the trillion dollars due to Trump’s tax cuts as Obama did not pass that to him.

Savvy?

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Most conservatives don’t trust the MSM because most conservatives are brain dead and can’t distinguish between reality and a hallucination.

The poll you posted being submitted as evidence A

That, and the fact that the "MSM" are a bunch of fucking liars who make Josef Goebbels look like an honest arbiter of factual reporting.

Like you Li'l Kim, the DNC controlled media seek to pervert the understanding of events in the world to promote a Marxist agenda.