Why legalizing marijuana is the second largest mistake of our day

[Contumacious]

The only things you will accomplish by voting for legalized marijuana are,
1) The rich will be able to capitalize off of drug addiction.

Lancet Medical Journal

The smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health" (Nov 11, 1995);

But Vern , you are not worry about drug laws? Won't the fascists/and socialists capitalize off drug prohibition?

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[dilloduck]

Why people who use pot should not use heavy equipment.

Sources: Crane Operator In Building Collapse Had Pot, Painkiller In His System « CBS Philly

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Sources tell CBS 3 that blood tests on the crane operator involved with Wednesday’s deadly building collapse in Center City detected the presence of a prescription painkiller and marijuana.

Six people died in that building collapse.

Pot never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little weed.

Why people who use alcohol should not operate a motor vehicle.

Family mourns man killed by suspected drunk driver

California woman killed by alleged drunk driver hours after being proposed to

Drunken driver going 100 mph before crash

Booze never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little molecule.

Or maybe it's cars we should be banning?

The alcohol fallacy again. SO if alcohol is so bad why would you want to make things worse by legalizing pot?

Cuz we're Americans---we have a right to be equally fucked up.

 

[The Rabbi]

If those were all suddenly legalized tomorrow are you going to run out and start using them?

Another fallacy.

So I take your answer then is no, you wouldn't. So what the hell makes you think everyone else is going to run out there and do it? I don't take heroine or meth or any of that stuff and it's not because it's illegal. I wouldn't do it even if it was.

Is there no one out there who doesn't use those drugs? Do people not start using those drugs, or were they somehow just born using them? Why do you think making something legal and available will somehow magically make it less used? Did you study Econ 101?

Who said anything about the usage decreasing by legalizing it? I never made the claim. In fact, I would gather that immediately following legalization there would likely be an uptick in use until everyone got it out of their system and then it would level off again. The difference now would be millions of less people would be incarcerated for victimless crimes, billions if not trillions of less dollars would now be spent on the prosecutions and the prison industrial complex, and the drug cartels would be out of power when all of their black market money dries up. New businesses would spring up selling the product and that money would legally go into local economies all across the country.

OK, so you are OK with an increase in usage of addictive drugs and all the violence, poverty, and irresponsibility those bring. SOmehow you seem to think this is better than the state making and enforcement laws in a narrow sphere. The naivete here is astounding. Equally naive is the notion that gov't is going to legalize drugs and tax the shit out of them to provide a revenue stream. In case you hadnt noticed it doesnt work that way in, say, NYC when the city tried doing just that with cigarettes. They simply increased the amount of illegal acitivity.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why people who use pot should not use heavy equipment.

Sources: Crane Operator In Building Collapse Had Pot, Painkiller In His System « CBS Philly

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Sources tell CBS 3 that blood tests on the crane operator involved with Wednesday’s deadly building collapse in Center City detected the presence of a prescription painkiller and marijuana.

Six people died in that building collapse.

Pot never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little weed.

you know what Katz?.....every time you show one of your stupid "how bad pot" is stories.....the person was also using something stronger and worse than Pot....like i told you before.....you have never been around people who smoke Pot and just do Pot.....

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

You're right, it has been a failure. Because the penalties have not been commensurate. We need to do what the ChiComs did when they took over the country in 1949. They virtually eradicated opium use within a few years. When we get serious about it, we'll do something.

Yes, let's replicate the abuse of the Chinese on our own citizenry. How very "small government" of you.

Hey, you want a solution to the war on drugs, there it is. You somehow think it is more noble for people to destroy their own lives and those around them than for gov't to destroy the actual perpetrators. I shake my head at such misguided notions.

It's none of your God damned business if someone destroys their own life. That's their life, not yours. If they're irresponsible enough to **** it up then they'll have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Either way, it's no business of yours nor do you have the right to make it yours. It's called living in a free country and being an adult and making one's own decisions.

You took offense to me pointing out that conservatives don't believe in small government and yet after that statement you have supported my accusation repeatedly with your own words. You, like most conservatives, are an authoritarian, plain and simple. You do not stand for freedom despite your fraudulent rhetoric to the contrary.

 

[The Rabbi]

The only things you will accomplish by voting for legalized marijuana are,
1) The rich will be able to capitalize off of drug addiction.

Lancet Medical Journal

The smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health" (Nov 11, 1995);

But Vern , you are not worry about drug laws? Won't the fascists/and socialists capitalize off drug prohibition?

.

Hmm, maybe not.
Research shows adverse effects of marijuana on teens as drug use among students appears to be rising | EdNewsColorado

 

[aaronleland]

I want to execute people who violate certain laws against drugs in this country. You got a problem with it?

You call yourself "small government", but want to execute people for abusing drugs, as long as they are the drugs the GOVERNMENT says are the bad ones.

It isn't the government saying that, po boy.
Sometimes gov't just needs to step in and do the right thing. Not often. Not every time. But this is one of them.

Bullshit. The government is the biggest drug cartel in the world. They have brainwashed rubes like you into believing pot is more dangerous than the many other drugs they push onto the population.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I want to execute people who violate certain laws against drugs in this country. You got a problem with it?

Yes I do Fascist. If millions of people want to smoke a leaf then they should have a right to do that. You're not for small government.

So we've got an ad hom and a reductio ad absurdum all in one sentence. You're not impressing me with your arguments, sonny.

I am not for no government, which seems to be what you want.

So immediately after accusing another of making a logical fallacy, you immediately throw one out of your own. You seem to have a consistency problem today.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why people who use pot should not use heavy equipment.

Sources: Crane Operator In Building Collapse Had Pot, Painkiller In His System « CBS Philly

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Sources tell CBS 3 that blood tests on the crane operator involved with Wednesday’s deadly building collapse in Center City detected the presence of a prescription painkiller and marijuana.

Six people died in that building collapse.

Pot never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little weed.

Why people who use alcohol should not operate a motor vehicle.

Family mourns man killed by suspected drunk driver

California woman killed by alleged drunk driver hours after being proposed to

Drunken driver going 100 mph before crash

Booze never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little molecule.

Or maybe it's cars we should be banning?

The alcohol fallacy again. SO if alcohol is so bad why would you want to make things worse by legalizing pot?

how does it make it worse?.....ban Alcohol and cigarettes and i will gladly be for the banning of Pot.....until then....ill take the one that does the least damage....

 

[Glensather]

Why people who use pot should not use heavy equipment.

Sources: Crane Operator In Building Collapse Had Pot, Painkiller In His System « CBS Philly

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — Sources tell CBS 3 that blood tests on the crane operator involved with Wednesday’s deadly building collapse in Center City detected the presence of a prescription painkiller and marijuana.

Six people died in that building collapse.

Pot never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little weed.

Pot doesn't kill people, people kill people.
Replace Pot with "guns" and you reverse your argument.

Just sayin'.

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes, let's replicate the abuse of the Chinese on our own citizenry. How very "small government" of you.

Hey, you want a solution to the war on drugs, there it is. You somehow think it is more noble for people to destroy their own lives and those around them than for gov't to destroy the actual perpetrators. I shake my head at such misguided notions.

It's none of your God damned business if someone destroys their own life. That's their life, not yours. If they're irresponsible enough to **** it up then they'll have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Either way, it's no business of yours nor do you have the right to make it yours. It's called living in a free country and being an adult and making one's own decisions.

You took offense to me pointing out that conservatives don't believe in small government and yet after that statement you have supported my accusation repeatedly with your own words. You, like most conservatives, are an authoritarian, plain and simple. You do not stand for freedom despite your fraudulent rhetoric to the contrary.

If it were just your life I wouldn't care. Go off to a desert and commit hari kari for all I care. But in the real world, which exists far from the imagination of narco-libtards, people's lives are intertwined with work, family, school, friends etc. And drug addiction is devastating in all those spheres.
And leave off the attacks on conservatives with your all or nothing bullshit.

 

[The Rabbi]

Why people who use alcohol should not operate a motor vehicle.

Family mourns man killed by suspected drunk driver

California woman killed by alleged drunk driver hours after being proposed to

Drunken driver going 100 mph before crash

Booze never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little molecule.

Or maybe it's cars we should be banning?

The alcohol fallacy again. SO if alcohol is so bad why would you want to make things worse by legalizing pot?

how does it make it worse?.....ban Alcohol and cigarettes and i will gladly be for the banning of Pot.....until then....ill take the one that does the least damage....

Except they aren't equivalent in any way at all. You might as well discuss banning motor oil.

 

[Contumacious]

The only things you will accomplish by voting for legalized marijuana are,
1) The rich will be able to capitalize off of drug addiction.

Lancet Medical Journal

The smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health" (Nov 11, 1995);

But Vern , you are not worry about drug laws? Won't the fascists/and socialists capitalize off drug prohibition?

.

Hmm, maybe not.
Research shows adverse effects of marijuana on teens as drug use among students appears to be rising | EdNewsColorado

Really?

Identify one single randomized double-blind, placebo-controlled study which supports your allegation?

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[Agit8r]

Having a black market on a commonly used substance just fuels organized crime.

I realize that some people may feel warm and fuzzy about of narco-terrorists, but I don't.

 

[Dugdale_Jukes]

The only things you will accomplish by voting for legalized marijuana are,
1) The rich will be able to capitalize off of drug addiction.

Lancet Medical Journal

The smoking of cannabis, even long term, is not harmful to health" (Nov 11, 1995);

But Vern , you are not worry about drug laws? Won't the fascists/and socialists capitalize off drug prohibition?

.

Hmm, maybe not.
Research shows adverse effects of marijuana on teens as drug use among students appears to be rising | EdNewsColorado

Is English your first language, senor rabino? Who suggested making herb legal for teenagers, el genio?

 

[The Rabbi]

Yes I do Fascist. If millions of people want to smoke a leaf then they should have a right to do that. You're not for small government.

So we've got an ad hom and a reductio ad absurdum all in one sentence. You're not impressing me with your arguments, sonny.

I am not for no government, which seems to be what you want.

So immediately after accusing another of making a logical fallacy, you immediately throw one out of your own. You seem to have a consistency problem today.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.
You want gov't to have no input at all into society. That is a contradiction right there.

 

[The Rabbi]

Having a black market on a commonly used substance just fuels organized crime.

I realize that some people may feel warm and fuzzy about of narco-terrorists, but I don't.

Oops
Officials: Cigarette-smuggling ring in East Coast may have terror link - CNN.com

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why people who use alcohol should not operate a motor vehicle.

Family mourns man killed by suspected drunk driver

California woman killed by alleged drunk driver hours after being proposed to

Drunken driver going 100 mph before crash

Booze never hurt anyone. It's an innocent little molecule.

Or maybe it's cars we should be banning?

The alcohol fallacy again. SO if alcohol is so bad why would you want to make things worse by legalizing pot?

There is no fallacy. It is fact marijuana is no more addictive or impairing than alcohol.

if you were injured and had to get to a Hospital and there was two people to drive you.....one has drank a 6 pack the other partakes in a joint.....who would you hope drives?...

 

[ScienceRocks]

Throwing millions of people into our prison system for smoking a leaf=stupid. Time to refocus our priorities.

 

[Agit8r]

Having a black market on a commonly used substance just fuels organized crime.

I realize that some people may feel warm and fuzzy about of narco-terrorists, but I don't.

Oops
Officials: Cigarette-smuggling ring in East Coast may have terror link - CNN.com

Nonetheless, almost all smokers buy legal and taxed cigarettes instead. There are not massive tobacco cartels, because there isn't enough demand for the illegal product.

We don't even need to resort to hypotheticals here. Just read any history book that covers the era of Prohibition.