Why is congress exempt from obamacare?

[ClosedCaption]

oooooffff cooourse it's a lie. Repubs are always spreading some bullshit lie around. Which is fascinating actually. They don't have legit reasons to be upset so they fabricate them themselves.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"is yours a private plan or is your employer paying part of the cost?" is not part of the OP.

Ignore it.

No, Congress is not exempt from ACA.

They are exempt from it by virtue of not having to pay the higher premiums, we are paying it for them.

so let me restate it---------congress is exempt from the financial impact of obomacare.

splitting hairs, but thats what we do here.

That is not splitting hairs, that is creating a misrecognition.

That is a lie, when you do it deliberately as you have here.

Step off.

 

[Rozman]

This Obmacare bill that's a major piece of legislation.
And it was passed through recocilliation.
There were deals made behind closed doors to get this done.

Look at all the waivers that were asked for and given.
Obama himself pushed part of this bill back a year because he was afraid of it's effect on the economy.

Doesn't this tell us something?

 

[francoHFW]

60 votes is not reconciliation dingbat.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Will one of you obama-loving libs please explain why you condone congress being exempt from obamacare while it is being shoved up our backsides?

Vitter: "As you have no doubt read, President Obama recently issued a special rule for Congress only." -- Vitter accuses lawmakers of ?lying? about Obamacare exemption | The Daily Caller

The Obamacare fix for lawmakers and staff was made because the Affordable Care Act includes an amendment from a Republican senator that changes how the government currently covers most of the cost of health-care premiums for members and their staffers.*The new law mandates that members and staff must enter into exchanges or be covered by insurance “created” by law.

according to your informative link the congress critter 'special subsidy' exemption is worth about $11,000.....

“President Obama recently issued a special rule for Congress and congressional staff to get a special subsidy to purchase health insurance on the Obamacare Exchange unavailable to every other American at similar income levels. That’s an exemption, plain and simple.”

Read more: Vitter accuses lawmakers of ?lying? about Obamacare exemption | The Daily Caller

 

[NYcarbineer]

Will one of you obama-loving libs please explain why you condone congress being exempt from obamacare while it is being shoved up our backsides?

Why don't you pose your question like an adult? Why are you trolling in 'politics'?

Obamacare hasn't affected my healthcare coverage at all, as far as I know.

What is it forcing you to do?

It will affect me personally because part of the ACA eliminates funding for medicare advantage. Medicare advantage is a program run by insurance companies and funded by medicare. It costs the govt less than standard medicare and provides better coverage for seniors, it has a premium in most states but its quite small. Now, I will be paying a higher premium and higher co-pays for less coverage. And there are millions like me, most are not as financially sound as I am. I can deal with it, but many cannot.

Obama hates it because the insurance companies can make a profit if they administer it efficiently------and profit is evil in the monarchy of chairman maobama.

No it doesn't provide better coverage for seniors. You are lying or ignorant or both.

 

[francoHFW]

The waivers run out next year, except for the tax on cadillac plans for unions, which run out when their contracts do, 2017 at the latest.

 

[Rozman]

Senate Passes Reconciliation Health Bill - CBS News

 

[francoHFW]

Medicare Plus is also cut by the Ryan budget, hater dupes...

 

[francoHFW]

68- That's still not O-care...

 

[francoHFW]

Claim: Congress is exempt from the law.

FactCheck.org says: False.

Several versions of this claim have been circulating since before the Affordable Care Act was passed. But no matter how many different ways the critics spin it, Congress isn’t exempt from the law. In fact, members and their staffs face additional requirements that other Americans don’t. Beginning in 2014, they can no longer get insurance through the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program, as they and other federal employees have done. Instead, they are required to get insurance through the insurance exchanges. capitoldome

This “exempt” nonsense first percolated before that provision was added to the law through a Republican amendment. Before the amendment, the legislation said that Congress — as well as federal employees, employees of large companies, and those who get insurance through Medicare or Medicaid — wouldn’t be eligible for the exchanges, which were created by the law for those buying their own insurance and small businesses. But that certainly didn’t make Congress “exempt” — lawmakers were treated like any other worker with employer-provided health insurance. They were required to have coverage or face a penalty.

The claim has persisted even after the provision requiring Congress to get insurance from the exchanges became part of the final law. Fast forward to spring 2013, and the assertion surfaced again when there was concern among lawmakers that the transition to exchange plans — particularly the transfer of the federal contribution toward premiums — wouldn’t go very smoothly. Politico published a piece on April 24 on lawmakers talking about changing the exchange requirement because of this. The headline on the story: “Lawmakers, aides may get Obamacare exemption.”

On Aug. 7, the Office of Personnel Management, which administers the FEHB Program, issued a proposed rule saying that the federal government could continue to make contributions toward the premiums of lawmakers and their staffs on the exchanges. The federal government has long made such premium contributions, as other employers do for their employees. OPM said the contribution couldn’t be more than what it is under the FEHB Program. That ruling, perhaps predictably, sparked new — and still bogus — claims from Republicans of Congress being “exempt” from the law.

“Congress Exempt from Health Bill?” Jan. 20, 2010

“Congress and an Exemption from ‘Obamacare’?” May 3, 2013

“No ‘Special Subsidy’ for Congress,” Aug. 30, 2013


http://www.factcheck.org/2013/09/ob...ail&utm_term=0_3294bba774-239247368f-47892917

 

[ClosedCaption]

And this is why people don't believe repubs even when they are right. They lie, get upset at the lie, find out it's a lie and STILL are mad.

It's the boy who cried wolf in real life.

Then add in their outrage at silly shot like drinking water, exercise, teleprompters, 57 states etc. No one can tell when they are actually mad or just playing pretend again.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Right-Wing Media's Latest Zombie Myth: Congress Is "Exempt" From Obamacare | Research | Media Matters for America

Right-Wing Media's Latest Zombie Myth: Congress Is "Exempt" From Obamacare

Florida Watchdog.org, an offshoot of the Koch brothers-funded Watchdog.org, parroted right-wing media claims that Congress is receiving an "exemption" from the Affordable Care Act (ACA) by receiving a "special subsidy" from the government for its health insurance. However, this zombie lie is not based in fact and is due to a Republican effort to politicize the implementation of the law.

Why do you fucktard liberals proudly post up quotes from OTHER fucktard liberals as "supporting evidence" and think it's going to achieve anything other than hysterically derisive laughter? Are you TRYING to be taken less seriously? Because I have to say, I don't think that's actually possible at this point without rewriting the laws of physics.

 

[Rinata]

This is another classic case of the rightwing nuts deciding something is true because they've been told by their sheepherders that it's true,

and now, no matter how much proof to the contrary is provided,

they will forever treat it as fact.

Of course we're dealing with people who think all their wisdom came from a magic apple offered up by a talking snake...

and we're dealing with nutters who think all wisdom comes from the lying snake called Barack the Magic Negro....

The fact that you refer to our president in that way negates anything you have to say. You don't seem to get that and that makes you appear stupid. But hey, I guess your racist beliefs come first no matter what.

 

[Greenbeard]

It will affect me personally because part of the ACA eliminates funding for medicare advantage. Medicare advantage is a program run by insurance companies and funded by medicare. It costs the govt less than standard medicare and provides better coverage for seniors, it has a premium in most states but its quite small.

No, it didn't cost the government less than standard Medicare. That was the point. Medicare Advantage plans tended to cost 10-14% more; under reform, those additional subsidies will be phased out to bring Medicare Advantage costs more in line with traditional Medicare costs. Generating hundreds of billions in savings to the taxpayer.

If that's resulting in you paying more, it's because your Medicare Advantage plan costs more than traditional Medicare and now it's up to you to pay the extra costs instead of the taxpayers (and those in traditional Medicare who've been paying higher Part B premiums to subsidize you).

If only the gravy train could've continued forever!

 

[JakeStarkey]

You reactionaries on the far right harm our GOP when you lie like this above: the rest of America knows you are lying.

 

[Desperado]

Congress has a long history of exempting themselves from laws that they make.
Obama care is just the latest example.

 

[Greenbeard]

Congress has a long history of exempting themselves from laws that they make.
Obama care is just the latest example.

Except they aren't "exempt" from it.

Congress even accepted a GOP amendment back in 2010 that requires them to access their health benefit by buying insurance in the new exchanges, something no one else with employer-based coverage is required to do.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Right-Wing Media's Latest Zombie Myth: Congress Is "Exempt" From Obamacare | Research | Media Matters for America

Right-Wing Media's Latest Zombie Myth: Congress Is "Exempt" From Obamacare

Florida Watchdog.org, an offshoot of the Koch brothers-funded Watchdog.org, parroted right-wing media claims that Congress is receiving an "exemption" from the Affordable Care Act (ACA) by receiving a "special subsidy" from the government for its health insurance. However, this zombie lie is not based in fact and is due to a Republican effort to politicize the implementation of the law.

Why do you fucktard liberals proudly post up quotes from OTHER fucktard liberals as "supporting evidence" and think it's going to achieve anything other than hysterically derisive laughter? Are you TRYING to be taken less seriously? Because I have to say, I don't think that's actually possible at this point without rewriting the laws of physics.

Why do you make such an effort at mocking sources while providing none of your own? If it hurts just say ouch

 

[Redfish]

Congress has a long history of exempting themselves from laws that they make.
Obama care is just the latest example.

Except they aren't "exempt" from it.

Congress even accepted a GOP amendment back in 2010 that requires them to access their health benefit by buying insurance in the new exchanges, something no one else with employer-based coverage is required to do.

they are exempt from the financial impacts of it because they passed a law requiring us to pay the extra cost they will incur due to ACA. WE are subsidizing healthcare for congress and the administration----------whoop de fucking do.