Why I will not now or ever advocate, argue for or endorse Trump

I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter


I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........
 
Well, kaz clearly can't back up his lies. This is getting boring.

right, if you assign me a task it's my job to go do it for you or I can't do it. wow, the third grade was a long time ago for me, what's it like?

You still can't explain your endless references to attacking republicans while saying "your party" to me
I guess everybody has got your number ... once a liar always a liar

Yep, Queen Elizabeth, thousands and thousands hang on your every word. So I'm curious. Did you once have a dick and lost it or was it never really there?
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter


I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter
Everyone's a free market capitalist – including Trump, Clinton, and Sanders.

What this actually means is that one is a naïve, sophomoric reactionary extremist with an unwarranted hostility toward necessary, proper, and Constitutional regulatory policy as authorized by the Commerce Clause, that one advocates for a wrongheaded, errant pre-Lochner economic regime, and that one harbors childish fantasies about returning to an idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with.

yep, socialists are free market capitalists too.

You're an idiot, clayton. No you're not a free market capitalist, you don't even know what it means. It's the opposite of socialism
you don't know the meaning of partisan and you don't know the meaning of a democratic socialist ... so I'll help you to grasp the difference ... but we all know you have a hard time understanding what you read

Democratic socialism
Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy with social ownership of the means of production.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
  1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

    now can you understand the difference ??? probably not
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter


We do not have a Free Market with China.

We can't control China, we can control ourselves. The field of economics shows clearly that while two way free trade is ideal, one way free trade is better than no free trade.

But more basic is free as in freedom. What right does the government have to prohibit it's citizens from doing business with whomever we want to?
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter
Everyone's a free market capitalist – including Trump, Clinton, and Sanders.

What this actually means is that one is a naïve, sophomoric reactionary extremist with an unwarranted hostility toward necessary, proper, and Constitutional regulatory policy as authorized by the Commerce Clause, that one advocates for a wrongheaded, errant pre-Lochner economic regime, and that one harbors childish fantasies about returning to an idealized American past that never actually existed to begin with.

yep, socialists are free market capitalists too.

You're an idiot, clayton. No you're not a free market capitalist, you don't even know what it means. It's the opposite of socialism
you don't know the meaning of partisan and you don't know the meaning of a democratic socialist ... so I'll help you to grasp the difference ... but we all know you have a hard time understanding what you read

Democratic socialism
Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy with social ownership of the means of production.

so·cial·ism
[ˈsōSHəˌlizəm]
NOUN
  1. a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

    now can you understand the difference ??? probably not

Using democracy to enable the majority to suppress the minority has nothing to do with freedom
 
I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it


So....knowing for sure that hilary will put anti free market judges on the court is better than voting for Trump who has stated he will pick judges like Scalia and Thomas......? You have a 50/50 chance with Trump to pick a good judge...you have a 100% chance that hilary will pick bad judges.......
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter


I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will
There is no doubt via Hillary. A common sense approach would be we'd be better off with someone else deciding instead of her.
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter


I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........
who was it that said corporations are people??? who's was it that said the obama care federal tax credits was legal ??? 2 republicans picked SCOTUS said it was legal... who has been ruling from the bench now ??? republican picked justices thats who... you don't know what you're talking about ... if a justice say they have the right to unplug a machine thats keeping a person alive you say its ruling from the bench ... if we say a woman has the right to choose, you say it's ruling from the bench ...what your problem is if you don't agree or like the ruling then that ruling, you feel they are ruling from the bench ... left or right it all maters what you like or dislike
 
So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it


So....knowing for sure that hilary will put anti free market judges on the court is better than voting for Trump who has stated he will pick judges like Scalia and Thomas......? You have a 50/50 chance with Trump to pick a good judge...you have a 100% chance that hilary will pick bad judges.......

Trump tells us he wants to control markets, I say that makes the odds less than 50/50. This is why we need someone like Cruz, not Trump. Not that it's a sure thing, but Cruz at least says he's on the right side
 
So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it


So....knowing for sure that hilary will put anti free market judges on the court is better than voting for Trump who has stated he will pick judges like Scalia and Thomas......? You have a 50/50 chance with Trump to pick a good judge...you have a 100% chance that hilary will pick bad judges.......
don't you mean a judge that you don't like, a judge that rules fairly
 
I'm a free market capitalist. Right there, Trump is a non-starter


I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will
There is no doubt via Hillary. A common sense approach would be we'd be better off with someone else deciding instead of her.

I've repeatedly said I'd probably vote for Cruz or Rubio and likely Kasich, But Trump says he doesn't believe in free markets, that's a different thing
 
I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it
Tariffs were used for over 200 years. Tariffs are still being used under the current Free Trade Agreements. It still isn't Free Trade even under the deals.

Allowing a foreign WTO court to order the United States to alter it's laws or receive retalitory Tariffs is an abomination of the Constitution. Under the TPP companies will be able to directly sue for damages Countries under the WTO court. That is idiotic.
 
No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it


So....knowing for sure that hilary will put anti free market judges on the court is better than voting for Trump who has stated he will pick judges like Scalia and Thomas......? You have a 50/50 chance with Trump to pick a good judge...you have a 100% chance that hilary will pick bad judges.......
don't you mean a judge that you don't like, a judge that rules fairly


Left wing judges do not follow the law......they do not rule fairly.....they hate the Constitution and see it as a barrier to their ability to change society for the "better." So no.....I actually mean real Justices who will interpret the Constitution according to the original intent of the founders and who will leave changing the Constitution to the People and their elected Representatives...
 
I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will
There is no doubt via Hillary. A common sense approach would be we'd be better off with someone else deciding instead of her.

I've repeatedly said I'd probably vote for Cruz or Rubio and likely Kasich, But Trump says he doesn't believe in free markets, that's a different thing
He is pushing for Fair Trade policies and I agree. I oppose you on this one. I also oppose submission to our laws to WTO courts. Again, it's not Free Trade anyway. To the damage.........the TPA fight verifies it will damage us. Because it's very reason for existing is to train displaced workers from modern industrial nations like the United States.

They know these deals will cost us jobs and that dog doesn't hunt with me. Jeff Sessions is opposing it and he's conservative as hell. He knows it will kill our jobs. He's right and I agree.
 
I counter your point with this....

if hilary wins she will appoint probably 3, maybe 4 Supreme Court justices......your free market capitalism will not survive 30 years of left wing, anti free market rulings.........

Trump...is 4 years and probably out....and possibly good justice picks......

hilary will be able to damage this country for 30 years with her court picks...

So I vote for Trump just hoping with his giving me no reason to believe so that he'll make better Supreme picks than Hillary? I need a little more than that


No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will
There is no doubt via Hillary. A common sense approach would be we'd be better off with someone else deciding instead of her.

I've repeatedly said I'd probably vote for Cruz or Rubio and likely Kasich, But Trump says he doesn't believe in free markets, that's a different thing


Do you think hilary believes in free markets......?
 
No....you don't really.......30 years of Supreme Court decisions.....Private Property Rights, Tax law....obamacare rulings....2nd Amendment rulings.......the justices hilary will pick will be hard core leftists......they will not hesitate to make law from the Bench, they will make decisions striking down individual rights for the next 30 years.


The Check on her power that may come from the Republicans holding one or both houses of congress will mean nothing compared to the almost eternal rulings made by that court. Remember....any conservative justices appointed afterward will adhere to the concept of "Precedent" and will not seek to overturn previous rulings....

The threat to the country of 3 Court Justices picked by hilary is just not negotiable...........

You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it




So....knowing for sure that hilary will put anti free market judges on the court is better than voting for Trump who has stated he will pick judges like Scalia and Thomas......? You have a 50/50 chance with Trump to pick a good judge...you have a 100% chance that hilary will pick bad judges.......

Trump tells us he wants to control markets, I say that makes the odds less than 50/50. This is why we need someone like Cruz, not Trump. Not that it's a sure thing, but Cruz at least says he's on the right side
heres is what I think is going to happen .. trump won't go over the 50% delegates thats required neither will Cruse or rubio ... when that happens according to RNC rules is the delegates no longer have to support the person they voted for ... that they can vote for any of the candidates ... what I believe might happen they will vote for Cruz or rubio leaving Trump pissed as hell, I think they will go more for rubio then cruz many in the RNC said they don't like cruz at all any way this will drive Trump to runs as a third party ... from what you hear from the RNC they're not real happy with trump
 
You're making the faulty conclusion that I have any reason to believe Trump will pick better justices than Hillary will


We don't.......but the odds trump will pick hardcore, ideological, anti American justices is smaller than the chances hilary will....you know she will not only have an anti American, anti freedom litmus test for her judges...she will have extensive files on them and she will use them to keep the justices from going rogue, and they will take a blood oath to her before they are appointed........

That I hope Trump won't implement his anti-free market ideology in picking judges as being the one reason I vote for him isn't going to do it




So....knowing for sure that hilary will put anti free market judges on the court is better than voting for Trump who has stated he will pick judges like Scalia and Thomas......? You have a 50/50 chance with Trump to pick a good judge...you have a 100% chance that hilary will pick bad judges.......

Trump tells us he wants to control markets, I say that makes the odds less than 50/50. This is why we need someone like Cruz, not Trump. Not that it's a sure thing, but Cruz at least says he's on the right side
heres is what I think is going to happen .. trump won't go over the 50% delegates thats required neither will Cruse or rubio ... when that happens according to RNC rules is the delegates no longer have to support the person they voted for ... that they can vote for any of the candidates ... what I believe might happen they will vote for Cruz or rubio leaving Trump pissed as hell, I think they will go more for rubio then cruz many in the RNC said they don't like cruz at all any way this will drive Trump to runs as a third party ... from what you hear from the RNC they're not real happy with trump
Which is the only way Hillary can win. Ross Perot all over again.
 

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