Why I believe something stinks in the Epstein story.

[Anomalism]

I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein is still alive. I worked at a maximum security prison. The idea that cameras went offline and multiple federally trained officers fell asleep in the moments leading up to his death is so ridiculous it's almost insulting that they expect people to believe that.

Cameras going offline is very rare. Those things are built to last and they get preventative maintenance on a regular schedule so that doesn't happen. If they do happen to go offline (extremely rare), it is considered an emergency maintenance situation and people are on the way immediately to fix it. It's not something that would have gone unnoticed, especially when dealing with arguably the most notorious inmate in modern American history.

I am also supposed to believe the federal officers assigned to him were all sleeping, as if they wouldn't understand the gravity of the situation with an inmate like that? He likely would have been on constant supervision by the most reliable officers they had.

At some point, the coincidences stack so high that a coverup actually becomes the more plausible explanation. For me, Epstein’s case crossed that line easily.

1. Camera reliability - Maximum security prison cameras are extremely robust and closely monitored. A sudden, unexplained failure is extremely unusual.

2. Staff responsibility - Officers know the stakes with high-profile inmates. The idea that multiple trained officers would all fall asleep at the same time strains plausibility.

3. Patterns of coincidence - The perfect storm of camera failure plus sleeping officers, at a critical moment, is statistically improbable.

I'm not being paranoid; it’s an informed assessment based on what actually happens in maximum security settings. The system has checks and protocols that make the official story very hard to believe.

They are lying to us about something. Maybe he's not still alive, but at the very least I think he was killed and it was covered up.

 

[Votto]

If you ever figure it all out, good news, you win a cookie!

 

[Anomalism]

If you ever figure it all out, good news, you win a cookie!

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I'm sure I'd be killed before getting that close. As somebody with some relevant experience though, I am telling you somebody lied.

 

[justoffal]

I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein is still alive. I worked at a maximum security prison. The idea that cameras went offline and multiple federally trained officers fell asleep in the moments leading up to his death is so ridiculous it's almost insulting that they expect people to believe that.

Cameras going offline is very rare. Those things are built to last and they get preventative maintenance on a regular schedule so that doesn't happen. If they do happen to go offline (extremely rare), it is considered an emergency maintenance situation and people are on the way immediately to fix it. It's not something that would have gone unnoticed, especially when dealing with arguably the most notorious inmate in modern American history.

I am also supposed to believe the federal officers assigned to him were all sleeping, as if they wouldn't understand the gravity of the situation with an inmate like that? He likely would have been on constant supervision by the most reliable officers they had.

At some point, the coincidences stack so high that a coverup actually becomes the more plausible explanation. For me, Epstein’s case crossed that line easily.

1. Camera reliability - Maximum security prison cameras are extremely robust and closely monitored. A sudden, unexplained failure is extremely unusual.

2. Staff responsibility - Officers know the stakes with high-profile inmates. The idea that multiple trained officers would all fall asleep at the same time strains plausibility.

3. Patterns of coincidence - The perfect storm of camera failure plus sleeping officers, at a critical moment, is statistically improbable.

I'm not being paranoid; it’s an informed assessment based on what actually happens in maximum security settings. The system has checks and protocols that make the official story very hard to believe.

They are lying to us about something.

I'm going to have to throw in with this one.
You just don't get that many coincidences all at the same time working together to create a desired result.

 

[Anomalism]

I'm going to have to throw in with this one.
You just don't get that many coincidences all at the same time working together to create a desired result.

The offline cameras is where I call the most bullshit. Maybe cameras were turned off or sabatoged somehow, but no way all that shit happened coincidentally and he just happened to die in those moments.

Bull

Shit

 

[toobfreak]

I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein is still alive. I worked at a maximum security prison. They are lying to us about something.

I know exactly what the likely odds are and I don't need to work there.

1. Cameras almost never fails. Far more likely is the connectivity to the camera feeding power and getting signal, or even more likely, the support program which receives all the camera signals and records and displays them to be monitored. The software is the weakest link in the chain, but then, no self-respecting institution would not have redundancy for such an event in the form of a backup until the main system was restored.
2. People falling asleep. Well, people can and do doze off late at night, but I expect that they would have been discovered by other people in short notice and woken up, or they would have failed to turn a key, press a button or check in in time and that would have been quickly noticed.
3. The real question is what are the odds of BOTH of these happening at the same time to that both the guards monitoring things were not paying attention AND the electronic system to monitor and record things ALSO failed so that there was no record, and that effectively multiplies a very unlikely event times another very unlikely event to create a nearly impossible and unimaginable event.
4. Finally, add to that I've seen people speculate on the odds of being able to hang yourself in one of those cells with a towel tied to a bed post, as being almost inconceivable and impossible to pull off, happening just as the cameras failed and the guards fell asleep, and you are left with an absurd alibi.

 

[Anomalism]

I know exactly what the likely odds are and I don't need to work there.

1. Cameras almost never fails. Far more likely is the connectivity to the camera feeding power and getting signal, or even more likely, the support program which receives all the camera signals and records and displays them to be monitored. The software is the weakest link in the chain, but then, no self-respecting institution would not have redundancy for such an event in the form of a backup until the main system was restored.
2. People falling asleep. Well, people can and do doze off late at night, but I expect that they would have been discovered by other people in short notice and woken up, or they would have failed to turn a key, press a button or check in in time and that would have been quickly noticed.
3. The real question is what are the odds of BOTH of these happening at the same time to that both the guards monitoring things were not paying attention AND the electronic system to monitor and record things ALSO failed so that there was no record, and that effectively multiplies a very unlikely event times another very unlikely event to create a nearly impossible and unimaginable event.
4. Finally, add to that I've seen people speculate on the odds of being able to hang yourself in one of those cells with a towel tied to a bed post, as being almost inconceivable and impossible to pull off, happening just as the cameras failed and the guards fell asleep, and you are left with an absurd alibi.

You are correct. Every camera has emergency backup in case of something like that.

And yes, killing yourself in a situation like that is not easy to pull off just on its own. He likely would have been on suicide watch as well, and would have been prevented from having certain items, making it even harder, and probably even impossible with the type of suicide it was.

It's too many coincidences. It's probably more likely you could flip heads 50 times in a row.

 

[scruffy]

The best pathologists in the country say no way neck marks like that are caused by a bed sheet.

I'd like to know why TRUMP'S FBI edited out three minutes of the prison video in JULY OF THIS YEAR.

 

[toobfreak]

And yes, killing yourself in a situation like that is not easy to pull off just on its own. He likely would have been on suicide watch already. It's too many coincidences.

You just jogged my memory. Epstein HAD been on suicide watch which required 24/7 monitoring but had just been taken off of it a few days before.

BANG. Super coincidence #4.

My grandmother has better odds of sprouting wings and wheels and taking off flying somewhere.

 

[Anomalism]

You just jogged my memory. Epstein HAD been on suicide watch which required 24/7 monitoring but had just been taken off of it a few days before.

BANG. Super coincidence #4.

My grandmother has better odds of sprouting wings and wheels and taking off flying somewhere.

The deeper you dig the more impossible it seems.

For me one of the really disturbing parts is just how many people would have to be complicit to pull something like that off. It would have involved staff members top to bottom, even if it was some middle of the night coverup.

 

[Manonthestreet]

The deeper you dig the more impossible it seems.

For me one of the really disturbing parts is just how many people would have to be complicit to pull something like that off. It would have involved staff members top to bottom, even if it was some middle of the night coverup.

Hillary is everywhere

 

[toobfreak]

The deeper you dig the more impossible it seems.

You don't even have to dig. At every level, the stories are preposterous. It seems like the government specializes in absurd stories apparently feeling that the more ridiculous they are, the more passable they as, as their being so silly that they must be true because no one would otherwise expect you to believe such nonsense! Kind of like the magic JFK bullet that had to stop and change directions mid-air in order to cause all his injuries from just one gun.

For me one of the really disturbing parts is just how many people would have to be complicit to pull something like that off. It would have involved staff members top to bottom, even if it was some middle of the night coverup.

Not really. His suicide watch was canceled, and someone ordered the few staff present that night to simply take a walk and claim xyz, or they had a tech actually cut the camera feed. You do what you are told.

Either that or the DC prison system really is that inept.

Good thing we don't try to hold El Chappo there.

 

[Anomalism]

You don't even have to dig. At every level, the stories are preposterous. It seems like the government specializes in absurd stories apparently feeling that the more ridiculous they are, the more passable they as, as their being so silly that they must be true because no one would otherwise expect you to believe such nonsense! Kind of like the magic JFK bullet that had to stop and change directions mid-air in order to cause all his injuries from just one gun.


Not really. His suicide watch was canceled, and someone ordered the few staff present that night to simply take a walk and claim xyz, or they had a tech actually cut the camera feed. You do what you are told.

Either that or the DC prison system really is that inept.

Good thing we don't try to hold El Chappo there.

Maybe. Messing with the cameras isn't easy though. That's not something normal staff can do. What happened to the emergency backups?

Who told the staff to take a walk?

Who came in to kill him, and how many people would have noticed something strange?

 

[toobfreak]

Maybe. Messing with the cameras isn't easy though. That's not something normal staff can do. What happened to the emergency backups?

Any technician could have easily done it. I expect they keep a crew on staff for that sort of electronic/computer work.

Who told the staff to take a walk?

That would have had to come from some senior staff position. A supervisor or administrator.

Who came in to kill him, and how many people would have noticed something strange?

All good questions.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm just taking a break, between chores and caught this in my feed.

Just time enough to say that I had my doubts that he was dead. So, I dug into it and I am not almost certain he is dead. I still have my doubts about whether or not he died at his own hand.

 

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[Leo123]

Has anyone seen Epstein's body? I agree with the OP, too many coincidences here. My guess is that he's dead because why would they want to keep him alive?

 

[ColonelAngus]

The prison footage released was not even of Eps cell.



This is great detail as reported by CBS news.

Includes prison floor plan and camera positions.

Of course something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Anomalism, Epstein is dead. The family saw the body.

But, yes, it was a possibility before he died that it could have happened.

Yes, Jeffrey Epstein’s body was identified by his family after his death. Specifically, his brother Mark Epstein was involved in reviewing autopsy materials and has publicly commented on the condition of the body and the circumstances surrounding the death.

Key Details​

• Mark Epstein was present during the autopsy and later hired forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden to independently assess the findings.
• Dr. Baden confirmed that the fingerprints on the body matched those taken from Epstein during a prior arrest, verifying the identity.
• Mark Epstein has expressed skepticism about the official ruling of suicide, citing autopsy photos and inconsistencies in lividity and neck injuries.

 

[Chuz Life]

I'm just taking a break, between chores and caught this in my feed.

Just time enough to say that I had my doubts that he was dead. So, I dug into it and I am not almost certain he is dead. I still have my doubts about whether or not he died at his own hand.

*Now almost certain.

******* Typos.