Why Egypt Closed The Gaza Border

[toastman]

"Why Egypt Closed The Gaza Border"

Easy question. $2B a year from the US.

BTW, remember when Hamas broke down the wall between Egypt and Gaza?

Thousands of Palestinians flooded into Egypt.
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They bought some things and went back home.

WOW, big threat.

If that was the only reason Palestinians went into Egypt, the Rafah crossing would be opened.

 

[P F Tinmore]

"Why Egypt Closed The Gaza Border"

Easy question. $2B a year from the US.

BTW, remember when Hamas broke down the wall between Egypt and Gaza?

Thousands of Palestinians flooded into Egypt.
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They bought some things and went back home.

WOW, big threat.

If that was the only reason Palestinians went into Egypt, the Rafah crossing would be opened.

What are you talking about? The Palestinians have no desire to attack Egypt.

 

[toastman]

"Why Egypt Closed The Gaza Border"

Easy question. $2B a year from the US.

BTW, remember when Hamas broke down the wall between Egypt and Gaza?

Thousands of Palestinians flooded into Egypt.
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>
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They bought some things and went back home.

WOW, big threat.

If that was the only reason Palestinians went into Egypt, the Rafah crossing would be opened.

What are you talking about? The Palestinians have no desire to attack Egypt.

But they have a desire to get weapons from Egypt that would be used against Israel.
BTW, there have been several skirmishes between Hamas and Egypt.

 

[Billo_Really]

[MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION], I was just reading an article or watching a video today about just this and how it has gone bad for those who attempted it. With all the deflecting and shit, I get too sick and tired of trying to remember which thread the assholes post in and therefore which thread to post it to, but it's out there somewhere.

Funny how I didn't have to name any names, but one of the most guilty comes to this thread.

Got a guilty conscience *****?

Not me. I have nothing to feel guilty about. I answered your questions. I am wondering though, why you went on this big ass rant about how no one would answer your questions, then I give you the opportunity to ask me a question and you don't? That's a little strange, doncha think?

But the big question I have right now for you, is why do you have to fuckin' lie, to make a point?

Forgive me, but I am getting sick and ******* tired of the Pali shills on this board. They are just plain stupid assholes. They never answer a direct question, though they claim to. Or if the ******* idiots do, they either answer with a stupid question or the assholes will deflect and act as though you asked a different question.

Now what you just said there is a lie. I know it's a lie and you know it's a lie, so why lie?

Not only have I answered your questions, on one occasion, you "thanked me" for answering it and for staying "on topic".

However, in spite of that, you feel the need to go on this big, disingenuous rant about your questions not being answered.

Well, **** you! Here's some crow!











And here's the link!


Now, got anything to say about why Egypt won't let in wounded Palestinian's to get the medical care they need?

 

[Billo_Really]

I'm glad you got that off your heart.

My heart? My heart has nothing to do with this. I told you, I don't give a shit about this conflict. I just don't like lying ass hypocrites (such as yourself), trying to tell me the emperor has new clothes.

As a leader of the Palestinians(in Gaza) I would've make sure nobody would create another reason to kill any Palestinian...

There is no "reason" for you to create. The Israeli's would just make up another reason to kill you, like they did with Hamas and the 3 teens.

and work for getting entire Gaza an asylum in Egypt,

viola! The truth finally comes to the surface for all to see.

You don't want peace, you want land!​

You just want the Pals to go away. It's official, you're trying to wipe them out, not the other way around.

meanwhile arresting all members of terrorist organizations,

Does that include the Likud Party?

and invest the billions of aid to promote the education and wealth of the Palestinians -

Oh, you're so full of shit! The only thing you want to do with Palestinian's, is kill them.

As a Gazan Palestinian I would've do at least one of the following.
1.Gather everyone I can secretly/publicly to resist/revolt Hamas leadership.
2.Escape to Egypt/Israel and start working on how to remove Hamas from leadership, decrease Hamas popularity, and separating the Hamas from Palestinians.
3.Build a shelter for my family and friends as far as possible from any possible clash.
4.I Would try to infiltrate Hamas military wing and take it down from the inside.

Sometimes deciding not to take action is the best thing you can ever do otherwise.
but of course none of this ever happened because its reality, this kind of -can I call it hopes? - belong to science fiction and dreams.
And you Billo supporting Hamas, don't be a fraud, they are doing whats wrong for the Palestinians, forget about the Israelis - they are killing Palestinians by doing so, the 'not good' consequence for their action is DEAD PALESTINIANS...Is that make you happy?

You watch too much TV.

 

[toastman]

Still peddling that lie about the 3 teens , eh Billo? You've become a scumbag to the degree of some of the worst scumbags here

 

[Billo_Really]

Still peddling that lie about the 3 teens , eh Billo? You've become a scumbag to the degree of some of the worst scumbags here

How could it be a lie, when you've never provided evidence Hamas was involved?

The closest you've come, was that report about the "rogue family" in the Israeli controlled West Bank, but that's as far as you got.

 

[toastman]

Still peddling that lie about the 3 teens , eh Billo? You've become a scumbag to the degree of some of the worst scumbags here

How could it be a lie, when you've never provided evidence Hamas was involved?

The closest you've come, was that report about the "rogue family" in the Israeli controlled West Bank, but that's as far as you got.

I mean the lie that Israel killed the three teens..

Also, two men have been arrested over the crime. We will see if they get convicted or not.

 

[Billo_Really]

Israels attacks are in response to Hamas rockets you deluded leftist.

To answer your question if the Palestinians should just sit there and do nothing; there's two options:

Either don't attack Israel, and Israel won't launch attacks against you

Or

Attack Israel, but DON'T complain when they hit you back ten times harder

At least when I'm proven wrong, I have the balls to admit it.

I've shown you the evidence of Israel shooting first in every case...





...but you just keep on insisting to tell that same bullshit lie!

The "crossing" was closed because Egypt is Israel's *****, just like Fatah is.

The only reason Hamas is taking all this heat, is because they refuse to be Israel's *****.

Which is why you're all butt hurt over this, because you like being Israel's little whore.

 

[Billo_Really]

I mean the lie that Israel killed the three teens..

Also, two men have been arrested over the crime. We will see if they get convicted or not.

You need to wake up and smell the coffee little suzie, that was my initial reaction to the shootings, but I've since revised my position as additional information came to light.

Do you have dyslexia? Because you keep acting like the older information is newer than the more recent one. Like the Hamas charter over their more recent statements accepting a two-state solution.

 

[Billo_Really]

Billo_Really, et al,

In real life, vacuum cleaners kill spiders. If you cross a busy road without looking, you get whacked by a car. If you fall from a tree, you break some bones.
Real life's nasty. It's cruel. It doesn't care about heroes and happy endings and the way things should be. In real life, bad things happen. People die. Fights are lost. Evil often wins.
I just wanted to make that clear before I begun.”
― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― Darren Shan, A Living Nightmare

“When you choose an action, you choose the consequences of that action. When you desire a consequence you had damned well better take the action that would create it.”
― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― Lois McMaster Bujold, Memory
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Does it make you happy people can't get the healthcare they need, as a result of your vicious and inhuman attacks?

So do you think they should just sit there and do nothing as you blow their buildings and children to bits?

(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinian and their leadership really don't want healthcare and have chosen a path that set the conditions for outcome to "their buildings and children."

One doesn't lend positive reinforcement for bad behavior. We don't reward the Hostile Arab Palestinian and their supporting constituency for their improper behaviors. We encourage a behavior modification through a series of positive and negative reinforcement.

What is necessary to achieve the goal you desire is to first get the HoAP to begin by weighing the consequences for their actions; to consider them, in terms of the immediate consequences, and the alternatives.

If, by firing rockets and mortars indiscriminately into Israel, if by digging tunnels into Israel for nefarious activities, if by conducting hostile operations against the sovereignty and people of Israel, the People of Palestinian are not achieving the desired results, THEN, behaviors must be changed.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― ― Albert Einstein​

For the HoAP to attempt, over and over again, the same strategy, and expecting the Israelis to respond differently is, by definition: Insanity!

We do not reward the terrorists (Jihadist and Fedayeen) and populations that support terrorism by adhering to their demands.

Most Respectfully,
R

Don't tell others to "weigh the consequences of their actions", when you're too ***** to deal with yours.

You blame Hamas, because YOU decided to invade Gaza.
You blame Hamas, because YOU decided to shoot their children.
You blame Hamas, because YOU didn't like their unity government.
You blame Hamas, because YOU didn't like the results of their election, so YOU decided maintain an economic blockade that collectively punishes 1.5 million people.
You blame Hamas, because YOU started an occupation 37 years before they even existed.​

When are you going to get around to having the balls to deal with what YOU'VE done?

 

[Phoenall]

Forgive me, but I am getting sick and ******* tired of the Pali shills on this board. They are just plain stupid assholes. They never answer a direct question, though they claim to. Or if the ******* idiots do, they either answer with a stupid question or the assholes will deflect and act as though you asked a different question.

And what gets me the best is when you show them pure proof to dis prove their point or that they're wrong . . . . silence!

Because they're too busy trolling the ******* board with multiple threads about their 'poor peaceful Palestinians'.

**** them all!

Sorry. I just had to get that off my chest.

Now that you got that off your chest, ask me a direct question and I'll answer it.

It won't be the first time.

Here you go then dildo a straight question lets see if you can give a straight answer


Why did you LIE about hamas not firing over 200 rockets at Israel in the months before July 4th ?

 

[Phoenall]

Can you imagine the the Egyptian death toll if Egypt ever opens the Gaza border with Hamas as the duly elected government of the Palestinian people themselves? Oh wait I forgot, the Palestinians & their supporters claim they need the border open for basic survival needs & medical treatment of the noble peace loving Palestinians who elected Hamas to govern them.

Egypt shuts border with Gaza, thwarts bid to smuggle rockets into Sinai | The Times of Israel

This is from your link.

Egypt closed the Rafah border crossing with the Gaza Strip on Friday, preventing ambulances and passenger buses from leaving.

Does it make you happy people can't get the healthcare they need, as a result of your vicious and inhuman attacks?

Nothing to do with hamas then stealing the medical supplies in the first place, then using the hospitals as rocket launch pads hoping no one will notice. Considering how much gaza gets in UN aid and charity and the fact that Israel built them modern hospitals in the 1970's why do they need to migrate to other nations for medical care. Nothing to do with Israel defending themselves from attacks, but all to do with the way hamas is treating the people of gaza.

But you are blinded to the truth by your NAZI ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATRED, what happened did some nice Jewish girl turn you down and laugh in your face. Or was it a Jewish boy ?

 

[Phoenall]

Teddy, ask him this "what good could bring a launching dozens of unguided and ineffective missiles knowingly it would be answered harshly from within a densely populated?"
A toast Billo

It won't do any good.

Does that answer your question?

Are you going to answer one of mine?

Do you think they should just sit there and "take it", while you constantly fire missiles into Gaza? Because that's what the rockets are, response to your missile strikes.

So do you think they should just sit there and do nothing as you blow their buildings and children to bits?

Not according to your source that shows the hamas rockets to be fired two days after Israeli response to hamas rockets fired in the 12 hours prior.

WHY DO YOU LIE SO MUCH WHEN YOU KNOW YOU WILL BE FOUND OUT

 

[Phoenall]

"Why Egypt Closed The Gaza Border"

Easy question. $2B a year from the US.

BTW, remember when Hamas broke down the wall between Egypt and Gaza?

Thousands of Palestinians flooded into Egypt.
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>
>
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They bought some things and went back home.

WOW, big threat.

They also attacked Egyptian soldiers and it was hamas that had to stop them bringing goods back to gaza as they were losing money. They cant have been that destitute as they bought flat screen TV's and motorbikes and not essentials like food and soap.

 

[Phoenall]

"Why Egypt Closed The Gaza Border"

Easy question. $2B a year from the US.

BTW, remember when Hamas broke down the wall between Egypt and Gaza?

Thousands of Palestinians flooded into Egypt.
>
>
>
>
>
>
They bought some things and went back home.

WOW, big threat.

If that was the only reason Palestinians went into Egypt, the Rafah crossing would be opened.

What are you talking about? The Palestinians have no desire to attack Egypt.

Explain these events then

August 2012 Sinai attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The August 2012 Sinai attack occurred on 5 August 2012, when armed men ambushed an Egyptian military base in the Sinai Peninsula, killing 16 soldiers and stealing two armored cars, which they used to infiltrate into Israel. The attackers broke through the Kerem Shalom border crossing to Israel, where one of the vehicles exploded. They then engaged in a firefight with soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces, during which six of the attackers were killed. No Israelis were injured.

Hamas Denies Role in Attack on Egyptian Military Post

 

[Phoenall]

[MENTION=49937]Daniyel[/MENTION], I was just reading an article or watching a video today about just this and how it has gone bad for those who attempted it. With all the deflecting and shit, I get too sick and tired of trying to remember which thread the assholes post in and therefore which thread to post it to, but it's out there somewhere.

Funny how I didn't have to name any names, but one of the most guilty comes to this thread.

Got a guilty conscience *****?

Not me. I have nothing to feel guilty about. I answered your questions. I am wondering though, why you went on this big ass rant about how no one would answer your questions, then I give you the opportunity to ask me a question and you don't? That's a little strange, doncha think?

But the big question I have right now for you, is why do you have to fuckin' lie, to make a point?

Forgive me, but I am getting sick and ******* tired of the Pali shills on this board. They are just plain stupid assholes. They never answer a direct question, though they claim to. Or if the ******* idiots do, they either answer with a stupid question or the assholes will deflect and act as though you asked a different question.

Now what you just said there is a lie. I know it's a lie and you know it's a lie, so why lie?

Not only have I answered your questions, on one occasion, you "thanked me" for answering it and for staying "on topic".

However, in spite of that, you feel the need to go on this big, disingenuous rant about your questions not being answered.

Well, **** you! Here's some crow!











And here's the link!


Now, got anything to say about why Egypt won't let in wounded Palestinian's to get the medical care they need?

Simples because Egypt know how evil the Palestinian terrorists are and don't want them in Egypt and meeting up with their M.B. fellow terrorists. So they do the sane legal thing and close the border to everyone. Make it hard for the people and you create a situation were they blame their leaders, which was your argument for the hamas rockets falling on Israel to force the Israelis to turn against their government

 

[TooTall]

Can you imagine the the Egyptian death toll if Egypt ever opens the Gaza border with Hamas as the duly elected government of the Palestinian people themselves? Oh wait I forgot, the Palestinians & their supporters claim they need the border open for basic survival needs & medical treatment of the noble peace loving Palestinians who elected Hamas to govern them.

Egypt shuts border with Gaza, thwarts bid to smuggle rockets into Sinai | The Times of Israel

This is from your link.

Egypt closed the Rafah border crossing with the Gaza Strip on Friday, preventing ambulances and passenger buses from leaving.

Does it make you happy people can't get the healthcare they need, as a result of your vicious and inhuman attacks?

Some times they do remember what has happened in the past.

In January 2002, a Palestinian Red Cross employee carried out a suicide bombing on the main road to Jerusalem, killing an elderly Israeli and seriously wounding 150 people. On March 27, 2002, two suicide explosive belts were found hidden under a sick child in a Palestinian ambulance. A member of the International committee for the Red Cross witnessed the discovery, removal, and detonation of the explosives.

In May 2004, Ha’aretz reported police uncovering a network that smuggled Palestinian Authority officers into Israel in fake ambulances — including members of Yasser Arafat’s elite Force 17 personal protection unit. Police said the ring might also have smuggled terrorists into Israel using similar methods. The same issue ofHa’aretz reported police arresting a man suspected of posing as an ambulance driver and illegally bringing into Israel dozens of Palestinians disguised as “sick patients” hooked up to medical devices and presenting forged documents. A police probe also found that a driver detainee did not hold an ambulance driver’s license and the license plates of his vehicle were forged. Police raided an Azzuriyeh warehouse in which commercial vehicles were being transformed into ambulances. Police have also found that Palestinian Arabs in Gaza disguise ordinary vehicles as ambulances in order to transport terrorists into Israel.

Amnesty International reported in May 2004 that explosive materials were found in an ambulance of the Palestinian Red Crescent Society. The International Committee of the Red Cross expressed shock and dismay at the reports of the explosives found.

 

[Phoenall]

Still peddling that lie about the 3 teens , eh Billo? You've become a scumbag to the degree of some of the worst scumbags here

How could it be a lie, when you've never provided evidence Hamas was involved?

The closest you've come, was that report about the "rogue family" in the Israeli controlled West Bank, but that's as far as you got.

Have you forgotten the many links that show the murderers were known hamas operatives working independently of hamas command.


WHY DO YOU LIE ALOL THE TIME DILDO

 

[Phoenall]

Israels attacks are in response to Hamas rockets you deluded leftist.

To answer your question if the Palestinians should just sit there and do nothing; there's two options:

Either don't attack Israel, and Israel won't launch attacks against you

Or

Attack Israel, but DON'T complain when they hit you back ten times harder

At least when I'm proven wrong, I have the balls to admit it.

I've shown you the evidence of Israel shooting first in every case...





...but you just keep on insisting to tell that same bullshit lie!

The "crossing" was closed because Egypt is Israel's *****, just like Fatah is.

The only reason Hamas is taking all this heat, is because they refuse to be Israel's *****.

Which is why you're all butt hurt over this, because you like being Israel's little whore.

LIAR all you did was arrange some figures when the facts show Israel responded to hamas rockets within 12 hours, then hamas launched more attacks 2 or 3 days later. That is not responding it is waiting to attack again.