Why DOGE is unconstitutional

[ThisIsMe]

‘Even under the most aggressive view of the president’s “unitary executive” control over the entire executive branch and independent agencies, it is Congress’s sole authority to appropriate and legislate for our entire government. The president basically directs the executive branch within the contours prescribed by Congress, subject to constitutional checks and balances. To be sure, the president and Congress share policy responsibility because the president recommends budgets and necessary and expedient measures to Congress, whose bills the president can sign into law or veto. But in the end, the president is constitutionally stuck with the policies for the federal government that Congress enacts and appropriates. No one person in America is the law — not even a Trump or an Elon Musk.

So, how can the radical overhaul Trump and Musk are undertaking be reconciled with our constitutional order? Quite simply, it cannot be. Congress must step in to enact this radical transformation — or the Supreme Court must stop it.

In the past several years, the court has provided unmistakable direction that Congress, not the executive, determines the scope of federal policy. The court even narrowed the president’s previously long-held entitlement to deference when interpreting ambiguous laws and policies.

Specifically, the Trump-Musk quest for government efficiency is led by a “department” that Congress did not establish, by unelected operatives who exercise overwhelming authority without appointment under the appointments clause, who are not subject apparently to any checks and balances, who are not faithfully executing the laws Congress has appropriated and legislated, and who are in the process of eliminating whole agencies, programs and millions of employees without any congressional authorization whatsoever. And they are doing so without explaining and recommending such measures to Congress (or to the public, for that matter).’

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wapo.st

There is no ‘DOGE’ – it is neither a department nor authorized agency; it is a lawless, un-Constitutional contrivance of Trump and Musk.

Why are the left so against someone trying to reduce wasteful spending of taxpayers money?

 

[kyzr]

Why are the left so against someone trying to reduce wasteful spending of taxpayers money?

Because they want to control it.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

We are facing a rocky 4 years, my friends.
I enjoy posting about history and race matters on USMB. But, I'm feeling very uneasy about things I'm seeing in this country right now. People getting fired from their jobs for no reason. Unvetted people having access to our Social Security and medical information. Unqualified people being appointed to important Cabinet positions.
Let's not even talk about all the crazy tariffs that are going to make the prices of everything from food to cars more expensive.
It's going to be very interesting.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

Those judges are not authorized in the Constitution. They are way outside their lane. The USSC needs to tell them that.

The USSC knows that the judges are correct in their decisions. That is why they are not saying anything.

 

[ThisIsMe]

We are facing a rocky 4 years, my friends.
I enjoy posting about history and race matters on USMB. But, I'm feeling very uneasy about things I'm seeing in this country right now. People getting fired from their jobs for no reason. Unvetted people having access to our Social Security and medical information. Unqualified people being appointed to important Cabinet positions.
Let's not even talk about all the crazy tariffs that are going to make the prices of everything from food to cars more expensive.
It's going to be very interesting.

Several of bidens cabinet picks were not qualified for the job they were given....so it all evens out

 

[jknowgood]

The judges are doing their jobs.

No they aren't, over stepping their boundaries

 

[M14 Shooter]

The USSC knows that the judges are correct in their decisions. That is why they are not saying anything.

You don't know how the federal court system works, eh?

 

[M14 Shooter]

There is no ‘DOGE’ – it is neither a department nor authorized agency; it is a lawless, un-Constitutional contrivance of Trump and Musk.

The best part of this lie?
The internet is forever - we can always point to it and remind the world of your bigoted, hyper-partisan dishonesty.

 

[Ms. Turquoise]

No they aren't, over stepping their boundaries

Elon Musk is overstepping his boundaries to be sure.

 

[tahuyaman]

‘Even under the most aggressive view of the president’s “unitary executive” control over the entire executive branch and independent agencies, it is Congress’s sole authority to appropriate and legislate for our entire government. The president basically directs the executive branch within the contours prescribed by Congress, subject to constitutional checks and balances. To be sure, the president and Congress share policy responsibility because the president recommends budgets and necessary and expedient measures to Congress, whose bills the president can sign into law or veto. But in the end, the president is constitutionally stuck with the policies for the federal government that Congress enacts and appropriates. No one person in America is the law — not even a Trump or an Elon Musk.

So, how can the radical overhaul Trump and Musk are undertaking be reconciled with our constitutional order? Quite simply, it cannot be. Congress must step in to enact this radical transformation — or the Supreme Court must stop it.

In the past several years, the court has provided unmistakable direction that Congress, not the executive, determines the scope of federal policy. The court even narrowed the president’s previously long-held entitlement to deference when interpreting ambiguous laws and policies.

Specifically, the Trump-Musk quest for government efficiency is led by a “department” that Congress did not establish, by unelected operatives who exercise overwhelming authority without appointment under the appointments clause, who are not subject apparently to any checks and balances, who are not faithfully executing the laws Congress has appropriated and legislated, and who are in the process of eliminating whole agencies, programs and millions of employees without any congressional authorization whatsoever. And they are doing so without explaining and recommending such measures to Congress (or to the public, for that matter).’

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wapo.st

There is no ‘DOGE’ – it is neither a department nor authorized agency; it is a lawless, un-Constitutional contrivance of Trump and Musk.

There’s nothing unconstitutional with DOGE. There’s nothing unconstitutional with a president appointing people to expose waste, fraud and abuse. There’s nothing unconstitutional with firing unelected bureaucrats who obstruct that mission.

 

[tahuyaman]

Elon Musk is overstepping his boundaries to be sure.

He’s doing what the elected POTUS tells him to do.

 

[tahuyaman]

‘Even under the most aggressive view of the president’s “unitary executive” control over the entire executive branch and independent agencies, it is Congress’s sole authority to appropriate and legislate for our entire government. The president basically directs the executive branch within the contours prescribed by Congress, subject to constitutional checks and balances. To be sure, the president and Congress share policy responsibility because the president recommends budgets and necessary and expedient measures to Congress, whose bills the president can sign into law or veto. But in the end, the president is constitutionally stuck with the policies for the federal government that Congress enacts and appropriates. No one person in America is the law — not even a Trump or an Elon Musk.

So, how can the radical overhaul Trump and Musk are undertaking be reconciled with our constitutional order? Quite simply, it cannot be. Congress must step in to enact this radical transformation — or the Supreme Court must stop it.

In the past several years, the court has provided unmistakable direction that Congress, not the executive, determines the scope of federal policy. The court even narrowed the president’s previously long-held entitlement to deference when interpreting ambiguous laws and policies.

Specifically, the Trump-Musk quest for government efficiency is led by a “department” that Congress did not establish, by unelected operatives who exercise overwhelming authority without appointment under the appointments clause, who are not subject apparently to any checks and balances, who are not faithfully executing the laws Congress has appropriated and legislated, and who are in the process of eliminating whole agencies, programs and millions of employees without any congressional authorization whatsoever. And they are doing so without explaining and recommending such measures to Congress (or to the public, for that matter).’

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wapo.st

There is no ‘DOGE’ – it is neither a department nor authorized agency; it is a lawless, un-Constitutional contrivance of Trump and Musk.

Trump is defending and strengthening democracy. He was elected as the POTUS and he’s removing non elected bureaucrats who are refusing to execute the will of the people.

He was elected to end the racist DEI policies in the military and the various agencies within our government. He’s firing the unelected bureaucrats who are refusing to follow orders to accomplish that.

Trump was elected on the promise to expose and eliminate waste and fraud. He appointed people to accomplish that. If non elected bureaucrats get in the way of that, they get fired.

Non elected bureaucrats who refuse to follow the lawful orders of the elected POTUS would be the threat to democracy.

 

[BackAgain]

Victor Davis Hansen still lives in the 1950s. I guess it's too painful to come up to 2025.

Listen you silly sock. You’re not the tiniest bit persuasive under any of your aliases.

Since you are unable to dispute what Hansen says, being the troll you are, you instead go for brainless ad hominem fallacies.

 

[jknowgood]

Elon Musk is overstepping his boundaries to be sure.

Trump is telling him what to do. So he is doing his job.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Elon Musk is overstepping his boundaries to be sure.

You have no rational or factual basis for your statement.

 

[Lesh]

^^ Dems are in full panic mode over their corruption being exposed and the money being cut off.

How will they fund their insane agenda and future elections?

The “corruption “ is Elmo firing agency workers who have oversight of HIS government contracts

 

[Lesh]

Why are the left so against someone trying to reduce wasteful spending of taxpayers money?

The problem is that he is not doing that.

He is enacting an anti-government agenda

 

[M14 Shooter]

He is enacting an anti-government agenda

Well yeah.
He's dismantling the stinking piles of liberalism found all through the US government.
It's what we voted for.

 

[Lesh]

Well yeah.
He's dismantling the stinking piles of liberalism found all through the US government.
It's what we voted for.

The hard core QKrew types may have.

The bulk of Trump voters voted for lower grocery prices

 

[M14 Shooter]

The hard core QKrew types may have.
The bulk of Trump voters voted for lower grocery prices

Keep telling yourself that.