Why Does The Right Not Want Confederate Statues Removed?

[HereWeGoAgain]

The better question is why do you want to remove them?

The better question is why do you want to remove them?

Because the idea of honoring those men and what they fought to preserve is repugnant.

Imagine, if you can or will, that you are an African American. Imagine having to live in a community that chooses to honor these men. You're forced to walk past and through these parks in honor of men who fought to keep your kind enslaved. It's despicable that in 2017 American citizens are made to suffer such a public humility. These memorials only came to be in response to desegregation across the south. They were erected to let blacks know who was still in charge.

Why do you believe they should stay?

Than you best get busy tearing down the White House and every single monument in the country.

No one but you has suggested anything so ridiculous.

Why the hell not?
The North had plenty of slaves.

The North ended slavery for all time, at the expense of a great many American lives.

The White House has protected civil rights many many times.

The Confederacy doesn't have a single redeeming quality. It existed solely to preserve slavery.

The south no longer supports slavery anymore than the north does.
Using your logic the white house needs to be torn down.

 

[g5000]

Because the idea of honoring those men and what they fought to preserve is repugnant.

Imagine, if you can or will, that you are an African American. Imagine having to live in a community that chooses to honor these men. You're forced to walk past and through these parks in honor of men who fought to keep your kind enslaved. It's despicable that in 2017 American citizens are made to suffer such a public humility. These memorials only came to be in response to desegregation across the south. They were erected to let blacks know who was still in charge.

Why do you believe they should stay?

Than you best get busy tearing down the White House and every single monument in the country.

No one but you has suggested anything so ridiculous.

Why the hell not?
The North had plenty of slaves.

The North ended slavery for all time, at the expense of a great many American lives.

The White House has protected civil rights many many times.

The Confederacy doesn't have a single redeeming quality. It existed solely to preserve slavery.

The south no longer supports slavery anymore than the north does.
Using your logic the white house needs to be torn down.

The South is no longer the Confederacy.

However, it continues to honor racist Democrats who wanted the institution of slavery preserved and protected.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Than you best get busy tearing down the White House and every single monument in the country.

No one but you has suggested anything so ridiculous.

Why the hell not?
The North had plenty of slaves.

The North ended slavery for all time, at the expense of a great many American lives.

The White House has protected civil rights many many times.

The Confederacy doesn't have a single redeeming quality. It existed solely to preserve slavery.

The south no longer supports slavery anymore than the north does.
Using your logic the white house needs to be torn down.

The South is no longer the Confederacy.

However, it continues to honor racist Democrats who wanted the institution of slavery preserved and protected.

Annnnd?

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR made us a modern democracy and the strongest nation on earth

One of our greatest President by any standard

FDR adored his Communist master "Uncle Joe" and lamented the fact that the US Constitution stood in the way of the USA turning into the USSR. FDR was evil

FDR got "Uncle Joe" to do all the fighting and dying against the Nazis
Saved hundreds of thousands of US lives

FDR acted like Uncle Joes sock puppet, and stalled the US drive to Berlin so that Uncle Joe, already a mass murderer, would have time to sack Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and add them to the Iron Curtain.

Patton was 100% correct, all we did was trade one evil dictator for another.

"We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore, their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I’ve seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old horses or oxen. I’ll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties, could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

If he were a sock puppet, he would have committed our troops in 1942 like Stalin demanded
Instead, he allowed millions of Russians to be killed before he consented to launch D Day

Patton, as everyone knew was a moron when it came to the political realities of the war. Following his advice would have led to hundreds of thousands of additional casualties....for no reason

You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

Never happened....did it?
Instead, the USSR just collapsed

Patton wrong about the Soviets? Really? He called it perfectly that they would be as bad and worse than the Nazis

You cried when Reagan defeated the USSR.

Patton:
"They are a scurvy race and simply savages," he writes of the Russians in his journal. "We could beat the hell out of them."
"Patton,"By Martin Blumenson, Kevin M. Hymel, p. 84

 

[xyz]

How ignorant of the left to choose Robert E. Lee--who opposed both slavery & secession--to symbolize the evils of slavery & secession

How many of Lee's men died or killed others defending secession and thereby slavery?

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

 

[Rustic]

How ignorant of the left to choose Robert E. Lee--who opposed both slavery & secession--to symbolize the evils of slavery & secession

How many of Lee's men died or killed others defending secession and thereby slavery?

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

Robert E Lee's whole deal was about states rights and duty, obviously the federal government largely ignores the 10th amendment now. Its a military thing you may not understand...

OK cupcake, I don't think it serves any good purpose by Tearing down statues because of the cowardice and pettiness of political correctness.

I don't support any career politicians over the course of history never have never will… Dumbass

Believe what you want because you will do just that… Progressives are fools you just proved it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR adored his Communist master "Uncle Joe" and lamented the fact that the US Constitution stood in the way of the USA turning into the USSR. FDR was evil

FDR got "Uncle Joe" to do all the fighting and dying against the Nazis
Saved hundreds of thousands of US lives

FDR acted like Uncle Joes sock puppet, and stalled the US drive to Berlin so that Uncle Joe, already a mass murderer, would have time to sack Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and add them to the Iron Curtain.

Patton was 100% correct, all we did was trade one evil dictator for another.

"We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore, their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I’ve seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old horses or oxen. I’ll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties, could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

If he were a sock puppet, he would have committed our troops in 1942 like Stalin demanded
Instead, he allowed millions of Russians to be killed before he consented to launch D Day

Patton, as everyone knew was a moron when it came to the political realities of the war. Following his advice would have led to hundreds of thousands of additional casualties....for no reason

You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

Never happened....did it?
Instead, the USSR just collapsed

Patton wrong about the Soviets? Really? He called it perfectly that they would be as bad and worse than the Nazis

You cried when Reagan defeated the USSR.

Patton:
"They are a scurvy race and simply savages," he writes of the Russians in his journal. "We could beat the hell out of them."
"Patton,"By Martin Blumenson, Kevin M. Hymel, p. 84

For context, and in comparison to Patton, there was the man who did more than Stalin himself to make certain that communism survived....

A more sinister proximate cause of our numbness when it come to Soviet crime' is the lies that Franklin Roosevelt told the public in support of Stalin.
Loy Henderson, State Department Russian expert of the time said: "Russia does not fight for the same ideals as the United States."

Roosevelt swore to the American public the exact opposite: he declared that Stalin fought for the same ideals!

September 30, 1941, FDR claimed that there was freedom of religion in the USSR."The claim that Stalin's Russia allowed religious freedom was the first step in a massive pro-Soviet campaign that the White House coordinated for the duration of the war."
"Caught between Roosevelt and Stalin: America's Ambassadors to Moscow," by Dennis J. Dunn, p. 137

 

[EvilCat Breath]

It's time to start destroying the monuments of the enemy. Start with the statue of that old reprobate Martin Luther King.

 

[xyz]

Robert E Lee's whole deal was about states rights and duty, obviously the federal government largely ignores the 10th amendment now. Its a military thing...

I don't disagree with this part, which of course proves you didn't read my post to begin with.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How ignorant of the left to choose Robert E. Lee--who opposed both slavery & secession--to symbolize the evils of slavery & secession

How many of Lee's men died or killed others defending secession and thereby slavery?

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

There was never any 'genocide against the Native population.'

To advance this propaganda/fabrication marks you as a product of government schooling.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

 

[xyz]

How ignorant of the left to choose Robert E. Lee--who opposed both slavery & secession--to symbolize the evils of slavery & secession

How many of Lee's men died or killed others defending secession and thereby slavery?

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

There was never any 'genocide against the Native population.'

To advance this propaganda/fabrication marks you as a product of government schooling.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

Wow, really?

Now you will have even less credibility?

(is that even possible?)

Do you also think there was no Holocaust? What about the Armenians?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Liberals, you realize we're going to have to remove remembrances of Franklin D. Roosevelt right? Not because I say so, but you did. Course you don't know that yet, I'm helping you think your way through this, in simple terms even you can understand.

See FDR, the dirty fascist, ordered innocent Japanese people into camps and robbed them of their assets. Amazing they were held in captivity 77 years after the Republicans freed the slaves. One has to wonder. Anyway, that's why. Simple right? You were just uneducated, and now you're educated.

Be consistent, use your heads, and get rid of this commie bastard now. Amazing how this guy was your hero, next to Obama & Clinton of course. Anyone who disagrees are sympathizers for the inhumane captivity of innocent people, especially the Japanese, and that my friends is racism.

You must also remove all of the generals from the US Army because they raped murdered and did the same things to the Indians that they did to the South they were criminals that murdered and raped women underage girls and children u grant was one of them sherman was, on and on PLUS linclon was president during major plains indian wars. So either tell the truth and get rid of the real criminals or NONE.

"linclon was president during major indian wars"?

Put the bottle on the table. Now push yourself away from the table, and go to bed.

You might want to pick up a book.

Plains Indian Wars - Dictionary definition of Plains Indian Wars | Encyclopedia.com: FREE online dictionary


On the central plains during the summer of 1864, Indian unrest threatened the trails from the east to Denver, Colorado, and led to the tragic and treacherous attack by Col. John M. Chivington on Black Kettle's Cheyenne village at Sand Creek, 29 November 1864. Sand Creek set off a general war that spread over the plains country in 1865. A three‐pronged offensive on the northern plains directed by Brig. Gen. Patrick E. Connor failed when columns encountered bad weather and ran out of supplies.

With the end of the Civil War, regulars returned to the plains. Red Cloud's Sioux closed the Bozeman Trail to the Montana mines and besieged the three forts erected to protect travelers. On 21 December 1866, warriors wiped out an eighty‐man force under Capt. William J. Fetterman near Fort Phil Kearny, Wyoming. The following summer, however, in the Wagon Box and Hayfield fights, new breech‐loading rifles helped beat back massed Indian assaults. The Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868 ended the Red Cloud War and provided for abandoning the three forts along the Bozeman Trail.

On the southern plains, a war in 1868–69 forced Cheyennes, Kiowas, and Comanches to new reservations. The highlight of this conflict was the Battle of the Washita, 27 November 1868, in which Lt. Col. George Armstrong Custer fell on the Cheyenne village of Black Kettle, who had survived Sand Creek but now died. In 1874, these tribes, discontented with reservation life, fled to the west. The Red River War of 1874–75, featuring operations by Col. Nelson A. Miles and Col. Ranald S. Mackenzie, ended warfare on the southern plains and along the Texas frontier.


Those indian wars lasted a looong time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

How ignorant of the left to choose Robert E. Lee--who opposed both slavery & secession--to symbolize the evils of slavery & secession

How many of Lee's men died or killed others defending secession and thereby slavery?

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

There was never any 'genocide against the Native population.'

To advance this propaganda/fabrication marks you as a product of government schooling.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

Wow, really?

Now you will have even less credibility?

(is that even possible?)

Do you also think there was no Holocaust? What about the Armenians?

By attempting to change the subject from the absurd lie that I just perforated, you are admitting

a. that you have no way to refuse what I wrote
b. that you are, in fact, a product of government schooling
c. that all you desire is a pat on the head, and a gold star, and you will parrot what your masters tell you to.


Slither off.

 

[HappyJoy]

How many of Lee's men died or killed others defending secession and thereby slavery?

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

There was never any 'genocide against the Native population.'

To advance this propaganda/fabrication marks you as a product of government schooling.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

Wow, really?

Now you will have even less credibility?

(is that even possible?)

Do you also think there was no Holocaust? What about the Armenians?

By attempting to change the subject from the absurd lie that I just perforated, you are admitting

a. that you have no way to refuse what I wrote
b. that you are, in fact, a product of government schooling
c. that all you desire is a pat on the head, and a gold star, and you will parrot what your masters tell you to.


Slither off.

Oooohhh, Rustic is going to give you a what for.....any day now.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You really don't understand history do you, because you believe only what you want to believe. If you read up on Lee you'll find much different facts then political correctness would have you to think...

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

Every existence of Abraham Lincolns likeness must be removed by politically correct standards... after all he is the first and only president to suspend habeas corpus. What a racist piece of fucking shit

Abraham Lincoln: Enigmatic President, and Full of Contradictions

Lincoln: No Hero to Native Americans

Abraham Lincoln: Deciding the Fate of 300 Indians Convicted of War Crimes in Minnesota's Great Sioux Uprising | HistoryNet

Largest Mass Execution in US History: 150 Years Ago Today

About the Time Abraham Lincoln Ordered the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History

Lincoln's Legcy

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

There was never any 'genocide against the Native population.'

To advance this propaganda/fabrication marks you as a product of government schooling.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

Wow, really?

Now you will have even less credibility?

(is that even possible?)

Do you also think there was no Holocaust? What about the Armenians?

By attempting to change the subject from the absurd lie that I just perforated, you are admitting

a. that you have no way to refuse what I wrote
b. that you are, in fact, a product of government schooling
c. that all you desire is a pat on the head, and a gold star, and you will parrot what your masters tell you to.


Slither off.

Oooohhh, Rustic is going to give you a what for.....any day now.

How very.......vapid.....of you.

 

[Rambunctious]

Only fools want to hide history from others....

 

[rightwinger]

FDR made us a modern democracy and the strongest nation on earth

One of our greatest President by any standard

FDR adored his Communist master "Uncle Joe" and lamented the fact that the US Constitution stood in the way of the USA turning into the USSR. FDR was evil

FDR got "Uncle Joe" to do all the fighting and dying against the Nazis
Saved hundreds of thousands of US lives

FDR acted like Uncle Joes sock puppet, and stalled the US drive to Berlin so that Uncle Joe, already a mass murderer, would have time to sack Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and add them to the Iron Curtain.

Patton was 100% correct, all we did was trade one evil dictator for another.

"We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore, their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I’ve seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old horses or oxen. I’ll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties, could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

If he were a sock puppet, he would have committed our troops in 1942 like Stalin demanded
Instead, he allowed millions of Russians to be killed before he consented to launch D Day

Patton, as everyone knew was a moron when it came to the political realities of the war. Following his advice would have led to hundreds of thousands of additional casualties....for no reason

You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

Never happened....did it?
Instead, the USSR just collapsed

Patton wrong about the Soviets? Really? He called it perfectly that they would be as bad and worse than the Nazis

You cried when Reagan defeated the USSR.

You must be reading some bizarre history books

In what six years were we at war with the Soviets
SIX Million lives?
Did I miss it?

I seem to remember them just calling it quits

 

[HappyJoy]

Because the issue is not about Robert E. Lee as a man to begin with. It's about the regime he was fighting for.

There are good things about Rommel too, although I'm not sure they should put up a statue because then they might glorify the regime he was fighting for.

If you want to petition to remove all the statues of Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, and all other presidents who committed genocide against the Native population, be my guest.

But you won't. Simply because you are a white supremacist pretending to be an Indian.

There was never any 'genocide against the Native population.'

To advance this propaganda/fabrication marks you as a product of government schooling.



1. The decimation of Indian populations stemmed only rarely from massacres or military actions, but the majority of Indian deaths came from infectious disease. There is the romanticized view that paints the settlers as barbaric, and the Indians as peaceful victims.

It is a myth that finds a home among America haters, who attempt to use slander of the settlers as a proxy for slandering today's Americans


2. Genocide means deliberate and systematic. As described by the UN Convention, Article II, it involves “ a series of brutal acts committed with intent to destroy, …a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group as such.”

No such thing happened.


3. Guenter Lewy (born 1923, Germany) is an author and historian, and a professor emeritus of political science at the University of Massachusetts. In September 2004, Lewy published an essay entitled Were American Indians the Victims of Genocide ?in which he says [Ward] Churchill's assertion that the U.S. Army intentionally spread smallpox among American Indians by distributing infected blankets in 1837 is false. Lewy calls Churchill's claim of 100,000 deaths from the incident "obviously absurd".



4. During the 4 centuries following European entry into North America, Indian population fell. By the beginning of the 20th Century, officials found only 250,000 Indians in the territory of the US, as opposed to 2,476,000 identified as “American Indians or Alaska Natives” in the 2000 census. Scholars estimate pre-Columbian North American population range from 1.2 million (1928 tribe-by-tribe assessment) up to 20 million by activists.



The only way one can claim the disease induced deaths of the natives was a "genocide" is by also attributing the deaths in Europe from the Black Plague as a genocide, as well.

Wow, really?

Now you will have even less credibility?

(is that even possible?)

Do you also think there was no Holocaust? What about the Armenians?

By attempting to change the subject from the absurd lie that I just perforated, you are admitting

a. that you have no way to refuse what I wrote
b. that you are, in fact, a product of government schooling
c. that all you desire is a pat on the head, and a gold star, and you will parrot what your masters tell you to.


Slither off.

Oooohhh, Rustic is going to give you a what for.....any day now.

How very.......vapid.....of you.

Not at all, I've been hearing him say a lot of stuff that he would probably want to respond to your post with....any day now.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

FDR adored his Communist master "Uncle Joe" and lamented the fact that the US Constitution stood in the way of the USA turning into the USSR. FDR was evil

FDR got "Uncle Joe" to do all the fighting and dying against the Nazis
Saved hundreds of thousands of US lives

FDR acted like Uncle Joes sock puppet, and stalled the US drive to Berlin so that Uncle Joe, already a mass murderer, would have time to sack Bulgaria and Czechoslovakia and add them to the Iron Curtain.

Patton was 100% correct, all we did was trade one evil dictator for another.

"We promised the Europeans freedom. It would be worse than dishonorable not to see they have it. This might mean war with the Russians, but what of it? They have no Air Force anymore, their gasoline and ammunition supplies are low. I’ve seen their miserable supply trains; mostly wagons draw by beaten up old horses or oxen. I’ll say this; the Third Army alone with very little help and with damned few casualties, could lick what is left of the Russians in six weeks. You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

If he were a sock puppet, he would have committed our troops in 1942 like Stalin demanded
Instead, he allowed millions of Russians to be killed before he consented to launch D Day

Patton, as everyone knew was a moron when it came to the political realities of the war. Following his advice would have led to hundreds of thousands of additional casualties....for no reason

You mark my words. Don’t ever forget them. Someday we will have to fight them and it will take six years and cost us six million lives." -- George S Patton

Never happened....did it?
Instead, the USSR just collapsed

Patton wrong about the Soviets? Really? He called it perfectly that they would be as bad and worse than the Nazis

You cried when Reagan defeated the USSR.

You must be reading some bizarre history books

In what six years were we at war with the Soviets
SIX Million lives?
Did I miss it?

I seem to remember them just calling it quits

So your Uncle Joe was not as bad a dictator as Hitler, really?

 

[bendog]

Only fools want to hide history from others....

And white supremicists and racists who want to hide the real history behind "lost cause" statutes. Not that I object to the statues, so long as their history is accurately advertised.