Why Does Somebody's Political Party Matter When It Comes To Crime?

[Thinker101]

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Mormon Shooter... Are you going to say he got the shirt in a lawn sale?

Swalwell was having a yard sale?

 

[CowboyTed]

Truth is Tyler Robinson & the mormon shooter are probably lone wolves...

When they had investigated these people in the past they have found they have acted independently

results indicate four characteristics common for both school attackers and assassins:

• perceived grievance,
• depression,
• a personal crisis (‘unfreezing’)
• history of weapons use outside the military.

These characteristics may be useful in distinguishing lone-wolfs from group-based terrorists.

https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/characteristics-lone-wolf-violent-offenders-comparison-assassins-and-school-attackers

 

[CowboyTed]

It's very clear which political party is loose on morals and soft on crime and punishment. It's the more "tolerant" one.

It seems like Red states have the higher rates

 

[Manonthestreet]

Where was the lie as I said that they were both probably RINOS but anyways what does it matter? If a Republican actually did commit a crime it wouldn't be any less wrong if a Democrat did it.

Just because they came from repub families doesn't maKE THEM REPUBS. ....I'm a repub. My youngest daughter voted for Biden.....why???....cause her friends.

 

[ChristisKing]

Let’s take a look between left and right violence.

How to make a leftist want to become violent. The wrong skin color, saying things they disagree with, wearing a hat they don’t like, telling them about Jesus, deporting illegals, not towing the left wing indoctrination line.

How to make a right winger go to violence. Do something personally toward me.

The left gets violent over ideology, the right focuses on personal issues directly affecting them.

Oh my gosh thank you for this as what a lot of people fail to understand is if you're just minding your own business, I don't wish any harm upon you but when you start doing stupid things like making death threats, harming people, glorifying death, and wishing death upon others I start looking at you as a threat. If these dimocrats could keep their big mouths shut then we could all just live in peace doing our own things and having civil discussions.

Truth is Tyler Robinson & the mormon shooter are probably lone wolves...

Tyler Robinson is a gay lunatic leftie.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I was just thinking about this of how quick lefties are and have been quick to shout MAGA Republican and Trump supporter at these recent shootings of the bar in North Carolina and the Michigan Mormon church shooting. Now I know for a fact that Republicans are guilty of this too of whenever something happens like this and we're quick to shout democrat, but the thing is that it's getting old folks. Why does politics matter whenever people are murdered as it shouldn't matter which party people are from they're still guilty of a crime if they're proven guilty of a crime.

It doesn't except as fodder that one side can use against those they perceive as their foes on the other side.

That's why they immediately want to know the stats on the person who committed crime and even when they get it wrong, it oftentimes still doesn't prevent them from attacking.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Although there are certain times when I wonder why a MAGA Republican would commit murder when it goes against everything that he believes in but if he does he does. I don't know why the left tries rubbing it in our faces if the shooter is a Republican. Like what are they trying to prove exactly? They go out and riot and destroy buildings when they don't get their way. Has anybody seen that happening since Charlie Kirk was murdered? Sorry, I had just had to add that food for thought, but at the end of the day murder is murder and crime is crime no matter who from what party commits it.

You don't understand human behavior at all, nor how many different types of people with varying opinions on a multitude of subjects make up the population of the United States.

People are never JUST Democrats or Republicans, left or right, liberal or conservative, etc. Heck all Republicans are not MAGA but as long as you only see black or white, they're not going to clarify your understanding of the behaviors we see.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

If you’re talking about mass shootings, etc., drug use and mental instability have more to do with that than politics. Politics can be the last straw.
But if you’re talking crime in general, democrat policy that destroys family structure is at the root. That is a very clear-cut and relevant result of democrat politics.

 

[candycorn]

I was just thinking about this of how quick lefties are and have been quick to shout MAGA Republican and Trump supporter at these recent shootings of the bar in North Carolina and the Michigan Mormon church shooting. Now I know for a fact that Republicans are guilty of this too of whenever something happens like this and we're quick to shout democrat, but the thing is that it's getting old folks. Why does politics matter whenever people are murdered as it shouldn't matter which party people are from they're still guilty of a crime if they're proven guilty of a crime.

Where gun deaths are concerned, folks like yourself don't see any problem with the availability of guns in our society.

Democrats do.

As this last year or so have proven, there are unstable people which backgrounds that included military service, homosexuality, middle class upbringings, poor upbringings, black, white, Hispanic, male, female, urban, rural, etc...

Its pretty clear to anyone with working eyeballs that gun nuts come in all shapes and sizes; sometimes wear nail polish and sometimes not. The common thread is that guns are far too easy to get. Yet there is almost a zen-like failure to acknowledge that there is even a problem from the right; let alone any sane attempt to bring a solution forward.

As I say every time; they don't have this problem in Europe. And yes, they have unstable people with backgrounds that include military service, homosexuality, middle class upbringings, poor upbringings, black, white, male, female, urban, rural, etc...

I doubt we're jut inherently more homicidal than those across the pond.

So that is one reason that politics enters into all of these mass shootings. Few on the right even think there is a problem with gun availability--the only thing that is different between us and Europe; fewer still want to do anything serious about it

 

[candycorn]

Although there are certain times when I wonder why a MAGA Republican would commit murder when it goes against everything that he believes in but if he does he does. I don't know why the left tries rubbing it in our faces if the shooter is a Republican. Like what are they trying to prove exactly? They go out and riot and destroy buildings when they don't get their way. Has anybody seen that happening since Charlie Kirk was murdered? Sorry, I had just had to add that food for thought, but at the end of the day murder is murder and crime is crime no matter who from what party commits it.

Its been explained to you at least twice. I don't know why you can't understand the explanations.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I was just thinking about this of how quick lefties are and have been quick to shout MAGA Republican and Trump supporter at these recent shootings of the bar in North Carolina and the Michigan Mormon church shooting. Now I know for a fact that Republicans are guilty of this too of whenever something happens like this and we're quick to shout democrat, but the thing is that it's getting old folks. Why does politics matter whenever people are murdered as it shouldn't matter which party people are from they're still guilty of a crime if they're proven guilty of a crime.

the left likes to because then they can blame all of us and call for our deaths

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

"Centrist" bloodlust

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

True. The thing that really frustrates me though is that people tend to confuse violence and self-defense. As I was discussing with another a Republican on here earlier that now is not the time to hold hands around the campfire and sing Kumbaya anymore. Clearly a lot of the democrats want us dead just by us speaking our minds. Sometimes we need war to get peace as these people just aren't in a listening mood.

How did you arrive that those of the right are engaged in self-defense because that is not what Missouri_Mike stated? He said

Because 99% of the time the violence from the left is political. Violence from the right is 99% a personal vendetta.

A personal vendetta is not self-defense.

A who specifically are you accusing of wanting you dead for "just speaking your minds"?

 

[Muhammed]

I was just thinking about this of how quick lefties are and have been quick to shout MAGA Republican and Trump supporter at these recent shootings of the bar in North Carolina and the Michigan Mormon church shooting. Now I know for a fact that Republicans are guilty of this too of whenever something happens like this and we're quick to shout democrat, but the thing is that it's getting old folks. Why does politics matter whenever people are murdered as it shouldn't matter which party people are from they're still guilty of a crime if they're proven guilty of a crime.

Can you give an example of Republican mobs denigrating the Mormon church and the American Fish Market bar & grill? Fish Market Nazis?

Obviously, this had nothing to do with political ideology.

What party tries to let incarcerated child molesters and murderers vote?

 

[Mac1958]

Party affliation only "matters" when it can be leveraged as a bludgeon for perceived partisan "advantage".

Then, when it's working in the opposite direction, it's summarily ignored, dismissed and/or explained away.

And that's the profoundly dishonest nature of the divisive hardcore partisan ideology that's taking us down.

 

[Godboy]

I was just thinking about this of how quick lefties are and have been quick to shout MAGA Republican and Trump supporter at these recent shootings of the bar in North Carolina and the Michigan Mormon church shooting. Now I know for a fact that Republicans are guilty of this too of whenever something happens like this and we're quick to shout democrat, but the thing is that it's getting old folks. Why does politics matter whenever people are murdered as it shouldn't matter which party people are from they're still guilty of a crime if they're proven guilty of a crime.

It only matters if political rhetoric is to blame. For example, the democrat party isnt spewing anti christian garbage as part of their platform. Sure there are some dems who dont like religion, but you wont generally hear a bunch of religious hate at DNC rallies or from the NY Times. As such, you cant blame dems for the Church shooting.

You also cant blame the right for Pelosi's hammer attack, the Governor "kidnapping plot", or the guy in the creepy mask who killed the husband/wife politicians. Nothing that we say on a regular basis inspired those attacks.

If someone tries to kidnap Michelle Obama in order to prove that she is a man, that would be caused by "rhetoric". If someone shoots Charlie Kirk over trans debates, that is caused by rhetoric. If someone kills a MAGA supporter because he was wearing a MAGA hat, thats the fault of rhetoric and demonization.

 

[22lcidw]

You don't understand human behavior at all, nor how many different types of people with varying opinions on a multitude of subjects make up the population of the United States.

People are never JUST Democrats or Republicans, left or right, liberal or conservative, etc. Heck all Republicans are not MAGA but as long as you only see black or white, they're not going to clarify your understanding of the behaviors we see.

The election of Progressive Socialist Communists who hid their true beliefs over many decades has gotten us to this point. The total broadcasting system is 95% Prog Socialist. TV Sci fi, dramas, comedies, talk shows, etc. are the same. The public-school education is Prog socialist control in blue areas and slowly infected the red areas with their control in states targeted to take over. I only tell you these things. And you are vengeance. Pure vengeance for those whose ignorance and arrogance and obnoxiousness helped to cause your rise. Used to take control. And now we find out you are not up to speed to replace those who really built the country at a higher [percentage than you can. The two oceans protect us.

 

[SweetTea]

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It seems like Red states have the higher rates

Democrats live in red states. In my red state, Democratic areas are the poorest and the most violent.

 

[Mac1958]

So we reward and celebrate people whose well-paid profession it is to (a) divide us politically, to (b) create and distribute violent video games, and to (c) addict people to social media that aggressively distorts reality and exacerbates social isolation...

... and then we act surprised when this shit just gets worse and worse?

Really? Why is that?

 

[CowboyTed]

He didn’t do that for a political stance. He had a vendetta against the church he attacked. Most if not all he shot were the same political party he was. So that had nothing to do with it.

So how do we know Tyler Harrison wasn't the same...

Maybe he didn't like Kirks views on Trans and Gay people...

Seems Tyler held a pretty Conservative view on Gun Ownership...

His Grandmother said they were all deep conservative Republicans and she didn't know any Democrats...

We don't know, it is speculation by MAGA on why Tyler killed Charlie.. MAGA has said it is because his Conservative views but it could specifically be because of his anti Gay and anti Trans views...

We don't know about the Mormon Shooter either, it is speculation... But you are blurting it out as fact. This is 4 hours old:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/deadly-attack-michigan-church-leaves-investigators-searching-motive-2025-09-29/

Leading experts say most fall into the profile of lone wolf killer...

There is a lot of unknowns and it would be a small bit respective if people would stop spouting speculation as fact. We might think something and if you share, it would nice if you say it is your opinion...