Why does Chicago have so much murder?...they don't keep thugs locked up...

[beagle9]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

You think street gang bangers vote? You must be high...

. Do they have to vote or does their influence vote for them ? Now who is their favorite party ? It sure isn't Republicans. It's the ones who are the easiest that's who.

 

[beagle9]

Why? Because streets of Chicago are flooded with guns. Because it's so easy to buy guns in the black market.

OK, but why does s group of people want those guns so bad, and then why do they use them on each other so much ? Can't a people just choose peace instead of being in gangs or using violence so much ? Poverty is no excuse, because during the 30's people were dirt poor literally, but for the most part they came through with their morals and character still intact. Poverty and having little in life is what spurs on the struggle to better oneself in life, and should never be used to justify violence or violent behavior. Leaving behind God, and excluding him from the lives of those who choose unwise and violent lifestyles, has led to what we are seeing today in this nation. Also more people at the top becoming corrupt and unGodly, is also spuring on a nation of evilness and mayhem. We must return to God or it will only get worse and worse.

The book, The Rise and Fall Of American Violent Crime covers this....poverty, and race have nothing to do with crime.....I heard the author on the Dennis Praeger show and he brings up the point about poverty in different periods and low crime rates depending on what neighborhoods you were in....

. A book has been written ? Wow. Will have to check it out.

 

[sealybobo]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Except for They don't vote.

Actually, that isn't accurate...I have posted articles about gangs ordering their members to vote for their pet aldermen......they also work to get their guys elected....helps to have the guy in charge of your ward on the payroll....

Negligible

Not according to the article I have posted in the past...the gangs put money and manpower behind the candidates they want....which can make a big difference in a ward election...they also intimidate other campaigns and vandalize the other campaign resources....

And they accuse you/me/us forr being racist for worrying about black crime because white crime exists.

They don't admit their violent crime problem is much worse than ours

 

[ninja007]

every lib city has high crime, almost all from blacks. libs are never tough on crime and they love the criminals but hate the police- this is the outcome, which they wanted.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Black culture and acceptance of gang life within that society. Sadly, blacks can't accept that the enemy is in the mirror.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Why? Because streets of Chicago are flooded with guns. Because it's so easy to buy guns in the black market.

WHat comes first the black market or the criminals who run it?

 

[August West]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

 

[Disir]

Here you go....a look at why Chicago has so much murder...they don't keep thugs locked up even when they need to be locked up for at least 10 years...

Does Chicago Have The Strictest Gun Laws in the Country? It's Complicated

They're also pushing for legislative changes that will enact harsher sentences for those convicted of gun crimes, particularly repeat offenders. McCarthy told aldermen the current system is equivalent to a "catch and release" program when it comes to those facing gun charges.

From Jan. 1 to Sept. 30, there have been 2,477 people arrested on gun charges, Guglielmi said. Of those, more than 600 had been arrested before on weapons charges.

Here's a breakdown:

• Two arrested had five prior arrests on weapons charges

• Six had four priors

• 28 had three priors

• 132 had two priors

• 460 had one prior

Source: Chicago Police

"The criminal justice system has to step up," Guglielmi said. Chicago should "have zero tolerance on gun crime. If an individual has documented criminal history, especially a felon, this individual should not be out in society walking around with a gun."

Can anyone explain why felons caught with illegal guns have been rereleased onto Chicago streets over and over again? And then please explain how normal, law abiding gun owners are the problem....

They don't have the money to keep them in jail. They don't have the money to keep them in prison.

Yes, they do go into Indiana to buy guns.

The heads of the gangs are in prison which means the gangs have become splintered into smaller factions. So, you have really young guys having a knipshit over real and imaginary slights.

 

[2aguy]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

Of course you are wrong.....gangs are deeply involved in local politics in Chicago......and they aren't voting republican...

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: An Unholy Alliance



Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.

The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)

At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

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Our findings:

• While they typically deny it, many public officials—mostly, but not limited to, aldermen, state legislators, and elected judges—routinely seek political support from influential street gangs. Meetings like the ones Baskin organized, for instance, are hardly an anomaly. Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.
• In some cases, the partnerships extend beyond the elections in troubling—and possibly criminal—ways, greased by the steady and largely secret flow of money from gang leaders to certain politicians and vice versa. The gangs funnel their largess through opaque businesses, or front companies, and through under-the-table payments. In turn, grateful politicians use their payrolls or campaign funds to hire gang members, pull strings for them to get jobs or contracts, or offer other favors (see“Gangs and Politicians: Prisoner Shuffle”).
• Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

The paradox is that Chicago’s struggle to combat street gangs is being undermined by its own elected officials. And the alliances between lawmakers and lawbreakers raise a troubling question: Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?

 

[2aguy]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

Of course you are wrong.....gangs are deeply involved in local politics in Chicago......and they aren't voting republican...

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: An Unholy Alliance



Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.

The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)

At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

-----------



Our findings:

• While they typically deny it, many public officials—mostly, but not limited to, aldermen, state legislators, and elected judges—routinely seek political support from influential street gangs. Meetings like the ones Baskin organized, for instance, are hardly an anomaly. Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.
• In some cases, the partnerships extend beyond the elections in troubling—and possibly criminal—ways, greased by the steady and largely secret flow of money from gang leaders to certain politicians and vice versa. The gangs funnel their largess through opaque businesses, or front companies, and through under-the-table payments. In turn, grateful politicians use their payrolls or campaign funds to hire gang members, pull strings for them to get jobs or contracts, or offer other favors (see“Gangs and Politicians: Prisoner Shuffle”).
• Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

The paradox is that Chicago’s struggle to combat street gangs is being undermined by its own elected officials. And the alliances between lawmakers and lawbreakers raise a troubling question: Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?

 

[2aguy]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

Of course you are wrong.....gangs are deeply involved in local politics in Chicago......and they aren't voting republican...

Gangs and Politicians in Chicago: An Unholy Alliance



Baskin—who was himself a candidate in the 16th Ward aldermanic race, which he would lose—was happy to oblige. In all, he says, he helped broker meetings between roughly 30 politicians (ten sitting aldermen and 20 candidates for City Council) and at least six gang representatives. That claim is backed up by two other community activists, Harold Davis Jr. and Kublai K. M. Toure, who worked with Baskin to arrange the meetings, and a third participant, also a community activist, who requested anonymity. The gang representatives were former chiefs who had walked away from day-to-day thug life, but they were still respected on the streets and wielded enough influence to mobilize active gang members.

The first meeting, according to Baskin, occurred in early November 2010, right before the statewide general election; more gatherings followed in the run-up to the February 2011 municipal elections. The venues included office buildings, restaurants, and law offices. (By all accounts, similar meetings took place across the city before last year’s elections and in elections past, including after hours at the Garfield Center, a taxpayer-financed facility on the West Side that is used by the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.)

At some of the meetings, the politicians arrived with campaign materials and occasionally with aides. The sessions were organized much like corporate-style job fairs. The gang representatives conducted hourlong interviews, one after the other, talking to as many as five candidates in a single evening. Like supplicants, the politicians came into the room alone and sat before the gang representatives, who sat behind a long table. “One candidate said, ‘I feel like I’m in the hot seat,’” recalls Baskin. “And they were.”

-----------



Our findings:

• While they typically deny it, many public officials—mostly, but not limited to, aldermen, state legislators, and elected judges—routinely seek political support from influential street gangs. Meetings like the ones Baskin organized, for instance, are hardly an anomaly. Gangs can provide a decisive advantage at election time by performing the kinds of chores patronage armies once did.
• In some cases, the partnerships extend beyond the elections in troubling—and possibly criminal—ways, greased by the steady and largely secret flow of money from gang leaders to certain politicians and vice versa. The gangs funnel their largess through opaque businesses, or front companies, and through under-the-table payments. In turn, grateful politicians use their payrolls or campaign funds to hire gang members, pull strings for them to get jobs or contracts, or offer other favors (see“Gangs and Politicians: Prisoner Shuffle”).
• Most alarming, both law enforcement and gang sources say, is that some politicians ignore the gangs’ criminal activities. Some go so far as to protect gangs from the police, tipping them off to impending raids or to surveillance activities—in effect, creating safe havens in their political districts. And often they chafe at backing tough measures to stem gang activities, advocating instead for superficial solutions that may garner good press but have little impact.

The paradox is that Chicago’s struggle to combat street gangs is being undermined by its own elected officials. And the alliances between lawmakers and lawbreakers raise a troubling question: Who actually rules the neighborhoods—our public servants or the gangs?

 

[2aguy]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

So....are you a total fucking moron for being wrong and simply talking out of your ass.....

And though gangs are anything but a monolithic voting bloc, they can, and sometimes do, offer enormous numbers come election time, especially when you count their relatives, friends, and those they muscle at the polls. “An alderman ain’t nothing without the backing of the neighborhood,” says a top-level Gangster Disciple from the South Side. “Without the gangs, it’s hard [for politicians] to exist.”

A Latin King, interviewed at Cook County Jail, recalls how the top leader of his gang, the Corona, ordered every member in his area to vote for Ricardo Muñoz, the 22nd Ward alderman. “Every chapter had to vote for that guy, anyone who was eligible to vote,” says the Latin King. “That was a direct order. That means you can’t say no. If you do, you face a violation”—typically a beating, or worse.

 

[beagle9]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

. It was meant in a satire sort of way, but the satire is being drawn from some shady stuff that has gone on in the past. Remember dead people voting ? Now how stupid do you feel that you didn't get the satirical sarcasm in the post.

 

[beagle9]

Democrats need them out to pull that voter arm for them that's why. They don't want to have to try to get them to vote from jail. Too risky.

Only a total fucking moron would think these kind of people are voters. If you own a beagle it`s undoubtedly smarter than you. The dog would never watch FOX news and be fed this kind of stupidity.

So....are you a total fucking moron for being wrong and simply talking out of your ass.....

And though gangs are anything but a monolithic voting bloc, they can, and sometimes do, offer enormous numbers come election time, especially when you count their relatives, friends, and those they muscle at the polls. “An alderman ain’t nothing without the backing of the neighborhood,” says a top-level Gangster Disciple from the South Side. “Without the gangs, it’s hard [for politicians] to exist.”

A Latin King, interviewed at Cook County Jail, recalls how the top leader of his gang, the Corona, ordered every member in his area to vote for Ricardo Muñoz, the 22nd Ward alderman. “Every chapter had to vote for that guy, anyone who was eligible to vote,” says the Latin King. “That was a direct order. That means you can’t say no. If you do, you face a violation”—typically a beating, or worse.

. Aside from the cursing going on between posters, the rebuttal was spot on.... This stuff has been going on since AL Capone's days, the gangsters, the mafia, crime syndicates, corrupt bought and paid for public servants and excetra excetra in this nation. Nothing new here, but it's a shame that because of the lies and deceit going on in it all, that people just parish by the thousands under the weight of it all.

 

[tigerred59]

Here you go....a look at why Chicago has so much murder...they don't keep thugs locked up even when they need to be locked up for at least 10 years...

Does Chicago Have The Strictest Gun Laws in the Country? It's Complicated

They're also pushing for legislative changes that will enact harsher sentences for those convicted of gun crimes, particularly repeat offenders. McCarthy told aldermen the current system is equivalent to a "catch and release" program when it comes to those facing gun charges.

From Jan. 1 to Sept. 30, there have been 2,477 people arrested on gun charges, Guglielmi said. Of those, more than 600 had been arrested before on weapons charges.

Here's a breakdown:

• Two arrested had five prior arrests on weapons charges

• Six had four priors

• 28 had three priors

• 132 had two priors

• 460 had one prior

Source: Chicago Police

"The criminal justice system has to step up," Guglielmi said. Chicago should "have zero tolerance on gun crime. If an individual has documented criminal history, especially a felon, this individual should not be out in society walking around with a gun."

Can anyone explain why felons caught with illegal guns have been rereleased onto Chicago streets over and over again? And then please explain how normal, law abiding gun owners are the problem....

Can anyone and I mean anyone explain why white mf's like you constantly and I mean constantly post shit about black people from a state you don't live in, from a place you don't care about and from a space, you know nothing about? Over and over, thats all you do, troll the web looking for anti black anything blogs and then drag that shit here. If your so interested in blacks and what they're doing, than damit do something about it. Adopt a black child, volunteer the prisons, stand on the corner and hand out money, but do something rather than come her day after day whining about these people.

 

[2aguy]

Ummm..what in the initial post mentions anything about race? Please point out where race is mentioned in the quote from the original post...twit.

How is talking about the right to keep and bear arms a black thing?

Hand out money? Typical lefty....I notice you didn't say hire black people.....funny how you think......

 

[Muhammed]

Here you go....a look at why Chicago has so much murder...they don't keep thugs locked up even when they need to be locked up for at least 10 years...

Does Chicago Have The Strictest Gun Laws in the Country? It's Complicated

They're also pushing for legislative changes that will enact harsher sentences for those convicted of gun crimes, particularly repeat offenders. McCarthy told aldermen the current system is equivalent to a "catch and release" program when it comes to those facing gun charges.

From Jan. 1 to Sept. 30, there have been 2,477 people arrested on gun charges, Guglielmi said. Of those, more than 600 had been arrested before on weapons charges.

Here's a breakdown:

• Two arrested had five prior arrests on weapons charges

• Six had four priors

• 28 had three priors

• 132 had two priors

• 460 had one prior

Source: Chicago Police

"The criminal justice system has to step up," Guglielmi said. Chicago should "have zero tolerance on gun crime. If an individual has documented criminal history, especially a felon, this individual should not be out in society walking around with a gun."

Can anyone explain why felons caught with illegal guns have been rereleased onto Chicago streets over and over again? And then please explain how normal, law abiding gun owners are the problem....

The Cook County jail is waaaaay overcrowded. They just don't have enough cells for that many niggaz.

That's my theory.