Why do democrats hate poor black people and want them permanently on welfare?

[Wyatt earp]

Of course they are enjoying those programs. Somebody else is paying for them.

And I noticed you didn't answer my question how what I did can't be done by others.

Maybe even they themselves are paying into some of these programs, and these programs aren't always a bad thing.

Maybe not everybody has the same circumstances you do.

I wasn't born Rich I earned it.. And at this point it , it doesn't mean a thing

Good for you, but that's no reason for you to look down upon those who need help during tough times.

But I never do, I was one of them..

I am legitimately happy for you and hope others who are struggling do the same and lift themselves up. I just would like to ask you to look at things on a case by case basis instead of grouping everybody in the same boat and casting stones.

Shit don't do that to me

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That's exactly what I said, more government dependency.

It's not dependency. It's people utilizing programs that help them and that isn't a bad thing. The government hasn't always done good things, but they've also done a lot of good for helping out the people at home. Serving the people is an obligation of the government.

THAT IS DEPENDENCY!!!!

When you rely on others to give you money, housing, healthcare, food, you are dependent on them.

That is how we are more evolved because the government has often looked out for us that we the people enjoy certain programs from. This country is mixed and thankfully we have neither total capitalism nor total socialism. It shouldn't be looked down upon or justify calling people pejoratives.

Of course they are enjoying those programs. Somebody else is paying for them.

And I noticed you didn't answer my question how what I did can't be done by others.

Maybe even they themselves are paying into some of these programs, and these programs aren't always a bad thing.

Maybe not everybody has the same circumstances you do.

Okay, then how are their circumstances different than mine? What do I have that they didn't have?

 

[IResist]

It's not dependency. It's people utilizing programs that help them and that isn't a bad thing. The government hasn't always done good things, but they've also done a lot of good for helping out the people at home. Serving the people is an obligation of the government.

THAT IS DEPENDENCY!!!!

When you rely on others to give you money, housing, healthcare, food, you are dependent on them.

That is how we are more evolved because the government has often looked out for us that we the people enjoy certain programs from. This country is mixed and thankfully we have neither total capitalism nor total socialism. It shouldn't be looked down upon or justify calling people pejoratives.

Of course they are enjoying those programs. Somebody else is paying for them.

And I noticed you didn't answer my question how what I did can't be done by others.

Maybe even they themselves are paying into some of these programs, and these programs aren't always a bad thing.

Maybe not everybody has the same circumstances you do.

Okay, then how are their circumstances different than mine? What do I have that they didn't have?

As I pointed out on the previous page, maybe some people want to work but can't find work, or maybe they are physically unable to do so. That does exist and should be no reason to deny them assistance.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Let me break this down for you by examples.

Person who is able to work but doesn't want to and is too lazy should get off the couch and go job hunting without a chance to abuse the system. You don't get to quit your job, do nothing and make no effort to work whatsoever.

Yes you do. People do it all the time. That's the problem here.

Person who wants to work, but is unable to find work, gets laid off, is disabled and thus physically incapable to do work,

We take care of those who are truly disabled, and many who are not disabled but claim to be.

Unable to find work? There is all kinds of work out there. In my industry, we need over 60,000 drivers that companies can't find. They are turning to foreigners who can't read or speak a word of English to come here and take these jobs Americans don't want.

person who has fallen on tough times

Such as? Everybody should be prepared for tough times.

person who is working a job, maybe two and still needs extra help,

Then is it income or spending that's their problem? How many kids do they have??

I don't mind and the government can afford it.

They can? Last I read, we were 20 trillion in debt and growing.

 

[IResist]

Let me break this down for you by examples.

Person who is able to work but doesn't want to and is too lazy should get off the couch and go job hunting without a chance to abuse the system. You don't get to quit your job, do nothing and make no effort to work whatsoever.

Yes you do. People do it all the time. That's the problem here.

Person who wants to work, but is unable to find work, gets laid off, is disabled and thus physically incapable to do work,

We take care of those who are truly disabled, and many who are not disabled but claim to be.

Unable to find work? There is all kinds of work out there. In my industry, we need over 60,000 drivers that companies can't find. They are turning to foreigners who can't read or speak a word of English to come here and take these jobs Americans don't want.

person who has fallen on tough times

Such as? Everybody should be prepared for tough times.

person who is working a job, maybe two and still needs extra help,

Then is it income or spending that's their problem? How many kids do they have??

I don't mind and the government can afford it.

They can? Last I read, we were 20 trillion in debt and growing.

Agreed. That is a problem.

So you agree we take care of those who are truly disabled. That's progress.

Have you considered people make serious efforts to find work and are actively looking but still might need help?

People fall on tough times and it can be random and unexpected.

Maybe they aren't spending it on stuff they shouldn't and live from paycheck to paycheck. If they have kids, why punish the kid(s)?

Yes. They can. Last I checked people were still receiving assistance and that debt is always growing.

 

[danielpalos]

how is social security wonderful when you get dog food money after giving them 15% of your life time income that would normally be wroth $1.4 million??? See why we say liberallism is based in ignorance>?

It's something we have for us later in lives. Our hard earned money that we could collect and fall back on when we near retirement age.

actually the question is, later in life do you want dog food money from liberal swine or $1.4 million dollars that is rightfully yours???

The liberals want you to die


We have heard it so many times


.

Not at all. I want programs that are going to benefit people who need them for one way or another.

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's something we have for us later in lives. Our hard earned money that we could collect and fall back on when we near retirement age.

actually the question is, later in life do you want dog food money from liberal swine or $1.4 million dollars that is rightfully yours???

The liberals want you to die


We have heard it so many times


.

Not at all. I want programs that are going to benefit people who need them for one way or another.

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

 

[Markle]

Anecdotal examples of extreme forms of socialism is not very convincing.

The US has a mixed-market economy.

Amusing. Predictable response from a far left Progressive. Socialism has failed wherever it has been tried but the Progressives say YES, that is true, but "they" just didn't do it the RIGHT WAY.

Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea are all examples of Socialistic countries. Nothing extreme about them except the eventual results. SHARED MISERY.

 

[Markle]

getting universal healthcare would add to that wonderful list.

how is social security wonderful when you get dog food money after giving them 15% of your life time income that would normally be worth $1.4 million??? See why we say liberalism is based in ignorance>?

Fourteen percent came about in 1985 and fifteen in 1989. However, the maximum income you paid those taxes on were just under $40,000 in 1985. Today, $118,500.

 

[Markle]

It's money I'm going to get. Money I paid into. If there still is Social Security since I'm about 40 years away from retirement. They tell me how much money they take out on each check that I'll get back.

If you retire in 40 years, you best start your own aggressive retirement plan yesterday.

 

[Markle]

The America of the founders from the 18th century is not the America of the 21st century.

But we are fortunate that out Constitution lays out basic guidelines and not a page of instructions. Thank you, God we are always blessed by your wisdom.

 

[danielpalos]

actually the question is, later in life do you want dog food money from liberal swine or $1.4 million dollars that is rightfully yours???

The liberals want you to die


We have heard it so many times


.

Not at all. I want programs that are going to benefit people who need them for one way or another.

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, instead of a wall, to prove we don't hate the poor!

 

[danielpalos]

Anecdotal examples of extreme forms of socialism is not very convincing.

The US has a mixed-market economy.

Amusing. Predictable response from a far left Progressive. Socialism has failed wherever it has been tried but the Progressives say YES, that is true, but "they" just didn't do it the RIGHT WAY.

Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea are all examples of Socialistic countries. Nothing extreme about them except the eventual results. SHARED MISERY.

You don't understand the concept. True AnCaps fail more often than socialist economies.

 

[Redfish]

The liberals want you to die


We have heard it so many times


.

Not at all. I want programs that are going to benefit people who need them for one way or another.

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, instead of a wall, to prove we don't hate the poor!

$15 minimum wage will reduce the number of jobs, and put more people on unemployment and welfare.

 

[danielpalos]

Not at all. I want programs that are going to benefit people who need them for one way or another.

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, instead of a wall, to prove we don't hate the poor!

$15 minimum wage will reduce the number of jobs, and put more people on unemployment and welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment; not enough, corporate raiding in it for you?

In any case, short run changes are expected; in the long run, more money being circulated means more demand which means more labor will be required.

And,

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Anecdotal examples of extreme forms of socialism is not very convincing.

The US has a mixed-market economy.

Amusing. Predictable response from a far left Progressive. Socialism has failed wherever it has been tried but the Progressives say YES, that is true, but "they" just didn't do it the RIGHT WAY.

Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea are all examples of Socialistic countries. Nothing extreme about them except the eventual results. SHARED MISERY.

You don't understand the concept. True AnCaps fail more often than socialist economies.

Then why do you live here?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, instead of a wall, to prove we don't hate the poor!

$15 minimum wage will reduce the number of jobs, and put more people on unemployment and welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment; not enough, corporate raiding in it for you?

In any case, short run changes are expected; in the long run, more money being circulated means more demand which means more labor will be required.

And,

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services.

So you want to get one more measly buck an hour more?


LMFAO

 

[Wyatt earp]

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, instead of a wall, to prove we don't hate the poor!

$15 minimum wage will reduce the number of jobs, and put more people on unemployment and welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment; not enough, corporate raiding in it for you?

In any case, short run changes are expected; in the long run, more money being circulated means more demand which means more labor will be required.

And,

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services.

So you want to get one more measly buck an hour more?


LMFAO

Just $1.00 more?

How would that help you?

 

[Redfish]

Translation you want other people's money

✓


.

Only for a Peoples' Wall; because the right hates the poor.

Not me your the one who hates the poor...

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage, instead of a wall, to prove we don't hate the poor!

$15 minimum wage will reduce the number of jobs, and put more people on unemployment and welfare.

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment; not enough, corporate raiding in it for you?

In any case, short run changes are expected; in the long run, more money being circulated means more demand which means more labor will be required.

And,

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services.

you just don't get it. If McDonalds had to raise its pay to $15, what do you think would happen? They would have three choices: 1 raise prices, 2 hire fewer workers, 3 close their doors.

If they raise prices their sales go down and they don't need as many workers
If they hire fewer workers, or automate more there are fewer jobs
if they shut the doors there are no jobs

You libs just never think these things through.

 

[danielpalos]

Anecdotal examples of extreme forms of socialism is not very convincing.

The US has a mixed-market economy.

Amusing. Predictable response from a far left Progressive. Socialism has failed wherever it has been tried but the Progressives say YES, that is true, but "they" just didn't do it the RIGHT WAY.

Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea are all examples of Socialistic countries. Nothing extreme about them except the eventual results. SHARED MISERY.

You don't understand the concept. True AnCaps fail more often than socialist economies.

Then why do you live here?

Because, I believe that socialists should merely learn how to use capitalism for all of its worth. Unlike the right wing; who like to complain about taxes instead of going to Mogadishu.