Why do democrats blame everybody else for Covid ?

[yidnar]

Yeah, when you include Russia which is about 1/2 of our population in and of itself.

There are also borderline 3rd world countries in that continent.... Shouldn't we be doing better as Ameicans than Bulgaria? Or do you prefer the socialist national healthcare that most of Europe has?

you are getting desperate snatching at straws in attempt to Blame Trump for a virus that has killed millions across the globe ! but you will not ! can not ! place any blame on the communist regime that unleashed covid onto the world ! the point i'm making is that covid is so contagious that no one could have prevented it from spreading like wildfire once it was unleashed onto the world ! thats why i'm not Blaming the current POTUS for the 200 thousand deaths in the 6 months he's been in office ! i blame China ! unlike you i am not a traitor to my country that refuses to place blame on the country most responsible ...fully responsible ! for the deaths of my countrymen and women !

 

[frigidweirdo]

for months weve heard dems blame Trump for the spread of covid 19 [a virus that is ravaging the entire planet !] and now that Trumpn isnt in the WH the dems are blaming republicans who they claim arent getting vaccinated [even though most of the elderly have been vaccinated and its a known fact that the elderly especially whites vote republican !
most of the spread is happening with unvaccinated younger people who dont tend to vote republican ! so dems are blaming their fellow Americans for covid spreading but i havent heard one dem leader or any dem voter for that matter blame China !
and now were starting to find out that even the vaccinated are getting the delta variant ! but we dont hear anything from the left about China being at fault for this virus that evidence is starting to mount suggesting it escaped from a lab !
covid doesnt behave like any virus the world has ever seen and its obvious that it came from a gain of function enhancement from a lab ! but will the dems say China is at fault ? will they place even the tiniest bit of blame on the Chicom gov that enforces slave labor and puts people in concentration camps ? ohhh no ! it seems that dems arent even able to contemplate that a country that practices such evil would unleash a virus onto the world ! nope its their fellow Americans ! why wont the dems focus as much of their blame and ire on China as they do republicans ?
does political gain and power mean that much to them ? its a sad sad state this country is in when an entire political party would rather place blame on their fellow Americans than the country that unleashed a virus that has killed millions across the world .

Isn't that US politics, always blame the other side for any problem?

 

[yidnar]

Don't be stupid for once.

We had quite a few covid deaths before anyone knew it was covid.

Isn't that US politics, always blame the other side for any problem?

one would hope that an acception would be made during a pandemic ... but sadly its not the case .

 

[candycorn]

you are getting desperate snatching at straws in attempt to Blame Trump for a virus that has killed millions across the globe

Snatching at straws?

We have 600,000 deaths in our nation... To find comparable numbers ,you have to include an entire continent then include the largest nation on earth!

Yeah, you're doing that snatch-boy.

! but you will not ! can not ! place any blame on the communist regime that unleashed covid onto the world

China lied about it's severity (just like the blob). China hid information about it (just like the blob). Said that from the opening post.

! the point i'm making is that covid is so contagious that no one could have prevented it from spreading like wildfire once it was unleashed onto the world

Yet somehow the US Suffered more than most nations. Your own stats prove that. But you can't bring yourself to criticize your blob because you're in a cult.

! thats why i'm not Blaming the current POTUS for the 200 thousand deaths in the 6 months he's been in office ! i blame China ! unlike you i am not a traitor to my country that refuses to place blame on the country most responsible ...fully responsible ! for the deaths of my countrymen and women !

You're simply not wanting to blame your blob...

Who promised a miracle...your blob.
Who said we'd have a case count near zero....your blob
Who oversaw the agencies that practiced contradictory methods (DHS/CDC). ...your blob
Who oversaw the agencies that let the material in the SNS spoil/expire...your blob

Who refuses to blame Trump for all of these mistakes and so many more. You and other cult members.

 

[frigidweirdo]

one would hope that an acception would be made during a pandemic ... but sadly its not the case .

I don't really see that either party would stop for much these days. Perhaps another world war, but even then I'm not sure. The Cold War was very political, Vietnam was very political, post 9/11 was a period that was relatively free of this, but then the Republicans just went with their aggressive programs and the Dems followed.

The reality is the system, two political parties, encourages such behavior, change the system to something like Proportional Representation, and you'd see a change in political behavior.

 

[candycorn]

Isn't that US politics, always blame the other side for any problem?

True...

Except objective facts are not arguable.

Did the blob promise a miracle? Yes.
Did the blob promise we'd have the case count down to zero? Yes

Why did he do that? To downplay the severity of the virus.

Did the blob refrain from wearing a mask in public most times? Yes

Why did he do that? Anyone's guess but it was contradicting his own CDC

Did the blob's DHS force all Americans returning from overseas via aircraft through 13 airports? Yes

The result was massive bottlenecks of passengers because the screeners at the ground were over-run. JFK airport.

Did all of this happen while the CDC was preaching social distancing? Yes.

 

[candycorn]

one would hope that an acception would be made during a pandemic ... but sadly its not the case .

One would hope you'd blame the leaders who were responsible and not a nation 1/2 way around the world that had nothing to do with the reaction in the US. But of course, that would mean you would have to blame Trump....and that will never, ever, happen even when the Strategic National Stockpile--invented for this very purpose--was rife with expired and spoiled goods.

I mean...it's a simple fucking question:

Did the SNS under President Trump have spoiled and outdated material? Yes or No. You avoid it like the plague...Which, by the way, would have also caused thousands of needless deaths had it struck under your blob.

 

[frigidweirdo]

True...

Except objective facts are not arguable.

Did the blob promise a miracle? Yes.
Did the blob promise we'd have the case count down to zero? Yes

Why did he do that? To downplay the severity of the virus.

Did the blob refrain from wearing a mask in public most times? Yes

Why did he do that? Anyone's guess but it was contradicting his own CDC

Did the blob's DHS force all Americans returning from overseas via aircraft through 13 airports? Yes
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The result was massive bottlenecks of passengers because the screeners at the ground were over-run. JFK airport.

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Did all of this happen while the CDC was preaching social distancing? Yes.

Sure. The problem I have here, as a person who thought Trump was incompetent through the Covid beginning, is that there's a mentality in the US that would have made it difficult for any President to take the right action.

I look around the world, and Europe, the Americas and such places have suffered because people are actively opposing what the politicians are doing.

Go to places like China and the people don't oppose, even Taiwan, Japan etc there's much less opposition, mostly it's a mentality, and that mentality makes it easier for politicians.

I don't really see much from Democrats that they'd have done differently. Yes, blame those in charge, blame the Reps and the Dems who messed up and caused all this problem, but also blame the people, because ultimately they decided all this.

 

[yidnar]

True...

Except objective facts are not arguable.

Did the blob promise a miracle? Yes.
Did the blob promise we'd have the case count down to zero? Yes

Why did he do that? To downplay the severity of the virus.

Did the blob refrain from wearing a mask in public most times? Yes

Why did he do that? Anyone's guess but it was contradicting his own CDC

Did the blob's DHS force all Americans returning from overseas via aircraft through 13 airports? Yes
View attachment 517024
The result was massive bottlenecks of passengers because the screeners at the ground were over-run. JFK airport.

View attachment 517025
Did all of this happen while the CDC was preaching social distancing? Yes.

operation warp speed ..... there is absolutely no way that a big gov high reg dem admin would have worked along side the private sector ro get a vaccine out in record time ! no way ! remember 200 thousand deaths since Biden took office !

 

[yidnar]

True...

Except objective facts are not arguable.

Did the blob promise a miracle? Yes.
Did the blob promise we'd have the case count down to zero? Yes

Why did he do that? To downplay the severity of the virus.

Did the blob refrain from wearing a mask in public most times? Yes

Why did he do that? Anyone's guess but it was contradicting his own CDC

Did the blob's DHS force all Americans returning from overseas via aircraft through 13 airports? Yes
View attachment 517024
The result was massive bottlenecks of passengers because the screeners at the ground were over-run. JFK airport.

View attachment 517025
Did all of this happen while the CDC was preaching social distancing? Yes.

speaking of social distancing ....

 

[August West]

you are getting desperate snatching at straws in attempt to Blame Trump for a virus that has killed millions across the globe ! but you will not ! can not ! place any blame on the communist regime that unleashed covid onto the world ! the point i'm making is that covid is so contagious that no one could have prevented it from spreading like wildfire once it was unleashed onto the world ! thats why i'm not Blaming the current POTUS for the 200 thousand deaths in the 6 months he's been in office ! i blame China ! unlike you i am not a traitor to my country that refuses to place blame on the country most responsible ...fully responsible ! for the deaths of my countrymen and women !

Lying and dying for Trump. Cool! We don`t want to lockdown or stay home. We don`t want to wear masks or get the vaccine. There`s nothing Trump or any other presidents anywhere could have done to stop the virus from coming into a country. Calling it a Democratic hoax and telling us it would disappear on it`s own is what made us one of the world leaders in Covid deaths. You`ve heard the Bob Woodward conversation with Trump when he admitted lying about it. They cheered at the CPAC meeting when it was announced that Biden wouldn`t reach his goal of 70% vaccinated by July 4th. Your party cheers for more deaths as long as they aren`t fetuses.

 

[candycorn]

Sure. The problem I have here, as a person who thought Trump was incompetent through the Covid beginning, is that there's a mentality in the US that would have made it difficult for any President to take the right action.

Really?

His CDC came out with a great plan in April I believe . A 3 phase plan for re-opening.

A look at Trumpâs new three-phase guidance on reopening the economy - The Boston Globe

The Trump administration has issued new guidelines for states, individuals and employers on how to gradually revive activity and ease up on social distancing in areas where coronavirus cases are on the decline.

www.bostonglobe.com

Made perfect sense. And then Trump set out to undermine it every step of the way. After Michigan locked down following CDC guidance, Blob supporters stormed the Michigan Capitol:

Following that, a rational President would have told everyone that his CDC had a plan in place. What did the blob do?

So I think you're wrong. I think plenty of people would have taken their cue from the President--that is what a leader does. Instead, the "leader" is telling folks to "liberate".
How do I know this? Well, 2 weeks after the "liberate" tweet...they came back. With guns:

Look familar?

I look around the world, and Europe, the Americas and such places have suffered because people are actively opposing what the politicians are doing.

Valid point. You also see GOP leaders coming around on vaccination realizing their position is, well, crazy.

Go to places like China and the people don't oppose, even Taiwan, Japan etc there's much less opposition, mostly it's a mentality, and that mentality makes it easier for politicians.

I don't really see much from Democrats that they'd have done differently. Yes, blame those in charge, blame the Reps and the Dems who messed up and caused all this problem, but also blame the people, because ultimately they decided all this.

Well, places that have more vaccinations currently have fewer deaths and hospitalizations due to Covid. One report on marketplace.org I heard recently tied economic booms to the places that have higher vaccination rates.

 

[candycorn]

operation warp speed ..... there is absolutely no way that a big gov high reg dem admin would have worked along side the private sector ro get a vaccine out in record time ! no way ! remember 200 thousand deaths since Biden took office !

Sorry. Using the Bin Laden rule, we can't give the President credit for anything unless she/he is on the front lines.

As for the president urging a speedy vaccine delivery, any President would have done that. Even a baboon like Trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Really?

His CDC came out with a great plan in April I believe . A 3 phase plan for re-opening.

A look at Trumpâs new three-phase guidance on reopening the economy - The Boston Globe

The Trump administration has issued new guidelines for states, individuals and employers on how to gradually revive activity and ease up on social distancing in areas where coronavirus cases are on the decline.

www.bostonglobe.com

Made perfect sense. And then Trump set out to undermine it every step of the way. After Michigan locked down following CDC guidance, Blob supporters stormed the Michigan Capitol:
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Following that, a rational President would have told everyone that his CDC had a plan in place. What did the blob do?

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So I think you're wrong. I think plenty of people would have taken their cue from the President--that is what a leader does. Instead, the "leader" is telling folks to "liberate".
How do I know this? Well, 2 weeks after the "liberate" tweet...they came back. With guns:
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Look familar?


Valid point. You also see GOP leaders coming around on vaccination realizing their position is, well, crazy.


Well, places that have more vaccinations currently have fewer deaths and hospitalizations due to Covid. One report on marketplace.org I heard recently tied economic booms to the places that have higher vaccination rates.

I'm not defending Trump, I'm saying that the US has a mentality. Are you saying that a Democrat would have done the right thing? The reality is that doing the right thing would probably have been a certainty for losing your political job.

I'm not saying it makes sense, but in a political system which is overtly EMOTIONAL, people's emotions are number one. You take away people's freedom without "good reason" and you'll be hunted down.

For a politician who cares about their job (all politicians) then letting people die is better than taking away people's freedom. It's the American way.

Trump is the sort of guy who knows how to get what he wants. He weighed the options between 100% losing the election and 60% losing the election. He went 60% and lost anyway.

Vaccinations is much easier for politicians. Yes, there's an emotion anti-vaxer movement, but really for politicians it's better to get a majority vaccinated and let the rest deal with it themselves, than to let it carry on. But this is way after the initial period.

 

[candycorn]

I'm not defending Trump, I'm saying that the US has a mentality.

Didn't say you were. Just showing how I think (my opinion) you're wrong about a President not being able to lead one way or the other. At the very least, by example. And the blob did do some of that...he refrained from playing golf for almost 3 months if memory serves.

Are you saying that a Democrat would have done the right thing? The reality is that doing the right thing would probably have been a certainty for losing your political job.

Not so sure about that--the losing part. Biden won the election but it wasn't an overwhelming victory relative to the unmitigated disaster that the blob was from day one. As for reacting to Covid...we'll never know. Obama did the right thing getting politics off the table on the Deepwater Horizon for example. Thad Allen essentially set the standard for an incident command. I would imagine they would have done something like that and gotten out of the way--letting the experts apply their expertise.

I'm not saying it makes sense, but in a political system which is overtly EMOTIONAL, people's emotions are number one. You take away people's freedom without "good reason" and you'll be hunted down.

For a politician who cares about their job (all politicians) then letting people die is better than taking away people's freedom. It's the American way.

Trump is the sort of guy who knows how to get what he wants. He weighed the options between 100% losing the election and 60% losing the election. He went 60% and lost anyway.

Vaccinations is much easier for politicians. Yes, there's an emotion anti-vaxer movement, but really for politicians it's better to get a majority vaccinated and let the rest deal with it themselves, than to let it carry on. But this is way after the initial period.

I seriously doubt that the vaccine roll-out would have been anywhere near as smooth as it has been under Biden.

You tell me...

Do you really think that Trump would have been quiet if say, California or New York had vaccines they were not administering? He would have gotten onto some social media and laid into them and fixed nothing in the process by the way.

 

[CowboyTed]

once again a democrat refuses to place any blame on China !are you going to place blame on China or not ?

Show actual proof China deliberately started the pandemic...

Actual Proof...


Some point in the next few minutes he is going to remeber all those RW pundits saying it was obvious but none of them actually presenting any proof... This is the problem in there echo bubble, they are all certain but none of them have the actual proof...

 

[yidnar]

One would hope you'd blame the leaders who were responsible and not a nation 1/2 way around the world that had nothing to do with the reaction in the US. But of course, that would mean you would have to blame Trump....and that will never, ever, happen even when the Strategic National Stockpile--invented for this very purpose--was rife with expired and spoiled goods.

I mean...it's a simple fucking question:

Did the SNS under President Trump have spoiled and outdated material? Yes or No. You avoid it like the plague...Which, by the way, would have also caused thousands of needless deaths had it struck under your blob.

spoken like a true Chicom sympathizing communist traitor !

 

[yidnar]

Show actual proof China deliberately started the pandemic...

Actual Proof...


Some point in the next few minutes he is going to remeber all those RW pundits saying it was obvious but none of them actually presenting any proof... This is the problem in there echo bubble, they are all certain but none of them have the actual proof...

prove they didnt commie ! also when your communist allies banned domestic travel to and from Wuhan but allowed international travel they purposefully spread the virus to the rest of the world ! but you wont hold them accountable for that because you and your leftist comrades will defend the murderous Chicom regime to the end ! you are a traitor that sides with China over your own countrymen and women !

 

[candycorn]

spoken like a true Chicom sympathizing communist traitor !

Spoken like a dyed-in-the-wool member of Cult 45.

 

[busybee01]

for months weve heard dems blame Trump for the spread of covid 19 [a virus that is ravaging the entire planet !] and now that Trumpn isnt in the WH the dems are blaming republicans who they claim arent getting vaccinated [even though most of the elderly have been vaccinated and its a known fact that the elderly especially whites vote republican !
most of the spread is happening with unvaccinated younger people who dont tend to vote republican ! so dems are blaming their fellow Americans for covid spreading but i havent heard one dem leader or any dem voter for that matter blame China !
and now were starting to find out that even the vaccinated are getting the delta variant ! but we dont hear anything from the left about China being at fault for this virus that evidence is starting to mount suggesting it escaped from a lab !
covid doesnt behave like any virus the world has ever seen and its obvious that it came from a gain of function enhancement from a lab ! but will the dems say China is at fault ? will they place even the tiniest bit of blame on the Chicom gov that enforces slave labor and puts people in concentration camps ? ohhh no ! it seems that dems arent even able to contemplate that a country that practices such evil would unleash a virus onto the world ! nope its their fellow Americans ! why wont the dems focus as much of their blame and ire on China as they do republicans ?
does political gain and power mean that much to them ? its a sad sad state this country is in when an entire political party would rather place blame on their fellow Americans than the country that unleashed a virus that has killed millions across the world .

Why do Republicans want to blame everyone? It is Republican governors who have downplayed vaccinations.