Why can't Republicans Pass an Acceptable Extension to the Temporary COVID Supplemental Subsidies?

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Simple: It's a very bad idea to extend these temporary supplemental subsidies again.

Still the Republicans would like to quietly extend them, or do something else to subsidize people's healthcare insurance, for political purposes. Here Senator Bill Cassidy offers his version:


Speaking on CBS’s Face the Nation, the Louisiana Republican and chair of the Senate healthcare committee encouraged collaboration, saying “there has to be a meeting of the minds between Democrats” and members of his party.

The Senate on Thursday rejected both Democratic and Republican efforts to curb healthcare costs, underscoring the ongoing divide over what to do about soon-to-expire tax credits that help millions of Americans buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Democrats pushed for a three-year renewal of the enhanced tax credits. Meanwhile, the measure introduced by Cassidy – a physician – and his Republican colleague Mike Crapo is built around government payments of $1,000 into the health spending accounts of people enrolled in bronze or catastrophic exchange plans, which typically have high deductibles. People from the ages of 50 to 64 would get another $500, and there would be limits for all who received the funds on using the money to pay for abortions or gender-affirming care.


At this point, they are arguing over which particular shade of lipstick to apply to the pig that is the ACA. They will never get Republican unity on any one particular plan, because Republicans will have to face their voters and explain why they voted for more subsidies for millionaires and billionaires.

The consequences of this is that what should happen will happen. The subsidies will expire with no "replacement," and then we will be able to see who is truly harmed by the additional out-of-pocket expenses, which will amount to about $700 per year for typical ACA market consumers.

If people are dying outside of hospitals, having been turned away because they could no longer afford healthcare insurance, then the Democrats will have an awesome talking point in 2026. If some trust fund babies, artists, and perpetual students who have specialized in avoiding getting a real job grumble about having to pay for more of their own insurance, then not so much of an issue.
 
Simple: It's a very bad idea to extend these temporary supplemental subsidies again.

Still the Republicans would like to quietly extend them, or do something else to subsidize people's healthcare insurance, for political purposes. Here Senator Bill Cassidy offers his version:


Speaking on CBS’s Face the Nation, the Louisiana Republican and chair of the Senate healthcare committee encouraged collaboration, saying “there has to be a meeting of the minds between Democrats” and members of his party.

The Senate on Thursday rejected both Democratic and Republican efforts to curb healthcare costs, underscoring the ongoing divide over what to do about soon-to-expire tax credits that help millions of Americans buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Democrats pushed for a three-year renewal of the enhanced tax credits. Meanwhile, the measure introduced by Cassidy – a physician – and his Republican colleague Mike Crapo is built around government payments of $1,000 into the health spending accounts of people enrolled in bronze or catastrophic exchange plans, which typically have high deductibles. People from the ages of 50 to 64 would get another $500, and there would be limits for all who received the funds on using the money to pay for abortions or gender-affirming care.


At this point, they are arguing over which particular shade of lipstick to apply to the pig that is the ACA. They will never get Republican unity on any one particular plan, because Republicans will have to face their voters and explain why they voted for more subsidies for millionaires and billionaires.

The consequences of this is that what should happen will happen. The subsidies will expire with no "replacement," and then we will be able to see who is truly harmed by the additional out-of-pocket expenses, which will amount to about $700 per year for typical ACA market consumers.

If people are dying outside of hospitals, having been turned away because they could no longer afford healthcare insurance, then the Democrats will have an awesome talking point in 2026. If some trust fund babies, artists, and perpetual students who have specialized in avoiding getting a real job grumble about having to pay for more of their own insurance, then not so much of an issue.
This is like if your deck is falling down and you buy an expensive grill for it.
Time to scrap and rebuild.
 
Simple: It's a very bad idea to extend these temporary supplemental subsidies again.

Still the Republicans would like to quietly extend them, or do something else to subsidize people's healthcare insurance, for political purposes. Here Senator Bill Cassidy offers his version:


Speaking on CBS’s Face the Nation, the Louisiana Republican and chair of the Senate healthcare committee encouraged collaboration, saying “there has to be a meeting of the minds between Democrats” and members of his party.

The Senate on Thursday rejected both Democratic and Republican efforts to curb healthcare costs, underscoring the ongoing divide over what to do about soon-to-expire tax credits that help millions of Americans buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Democrats pushed for a three-year renewal of the enhanced tax credits. Meanwhile, the measure introduced by Cassidy – a physician – and his Republican colleague Mike Crapo is built around government payments of $1,000 into the health spending accounts of people enrolled in bronze or catastrophic exchange plans, which typically have high deductibles. People from the ages of 50 to 64 would get another $500, and there would be limits for all who received the funds on using the money to pay for abortions or gender-affirming care.


At this point, they are arguing over which particular shade of lipstick to apply to the pig that is the ACA. They will never get Republican unity on any one particular plan, because Republicans will have to face their voters and explain why they voted for more subsidies for millionaires and billionaires.

The consequences of this is that what should happen will happen. The subsidies will expire with no "replacement," and then we will be able to see who is truly harmed by the additional out-of-pocket expenses, which will amount to about $700 per year for typical ACA market consumers.

If people are dying outside of hospitals, having been turned away because they could no longer afford healthcare insurance, then the Democrats will have an awesome talking point in 2026. If some trust fund babies, artists, and perpetual students who have specialized in avoiding getting a real job grumble about having to pay for more of their own insurance, then not so much of an issue.
No.

The correct answer is "they don't care about average people".
 
Republicans will support an extension or lose the House next year. Helluva hill to die on.
 
Extended them "for political purposes"? Cancelling millions of impoverished and struggling people's healthcare is deeply unpopular. How's that for political? Midterms are going to be a bloodbath so why not just go full retard and cancel them? Go ahead GOP.
 
Extended them "for political purposes"? Cancelling millions of impoverished and struggling people's healthcare is deeply unpopular. How's that for political? Midterms are going to be a bloodbath so why not just go full retard and cancel them? Go ahead GOP.
To their credit the Dems have convinced the country that most Americans are in danger of losing their health insurance without the subsidies. But as Isrelluc pointed out it's only 1 in 7. The vast majority have private health insurance.
 
To their credit the Dems have convinced the country that most Americans are in danger of losing their health insurance without the subsidies. But as Isrelluc pointed out it's only 1 in 7. The vast majority have private health insurance.
Only 1 in 7? That is a low number to lose health insurance to you? okie dokie.
 
Republicans will support an extension or lose the House next year. Helluva hill to die on.

Extended them "for political purposes"? Cancelling millions of impoverished and struggling people's healthcare is deeply unpopular. How's that for political? Midterms are going to be a bloodbath so why not just go full retard and cancel them? Go ahead GOP.
We'll see if that happens.

If that is a realistic possibility, why do you think the Republicans are not passing an extension?

No doubt it is because they know that anyone freeloading off of the ACA supplemental subsidies is unlikely to be a Republican voter anyway.

But the hardworking Americans who Democrats expect to pay for all their second hand generosity? Yes, they are Republican voters who would stay home if Republicans started acting just like Democrats.
 
Simple: It's a very bad idea to extend these temporary supplemental subsidies again.

Still the Republicans would like to quietly extend them, or do something else to subsidize people's healthcare insurance, for political purposes. Here Senator Bill Cassidy offers his version:


Speaking on CBS’s Face the Nation, the Louisiana Republican and chair of the Senate healthcare committee encouraged collaboration, saying “there has to be a meeting of the minds between Democrats” and members of his party.

The Senate on Thursday rejected both Democratic and Republican efforts to curb healthcare costs, underscoring the ongoing divide over what to do about soon-to-expire tax credits that help millions of Americans buy insurance through the Affordable Care Act (ACA).

Democrats pushed for a three-year renewal of the enhanced tax credits. Meanwhile, the measure introduced by Cassidy – a physician – and his Republican colleague Mike Crapo is built around government payments of $1,000 into the health spending accounts of people enrolled in bronze or catastrophic exchange plans, which typically have high deductibles. People from the ages of 50 to 64 would get another $500, and there would be limits for all who received the funds on using the money to pay for abortions or gender-affirming care.


At this point, they are arguing over which particular shade of lipstick to apply to the pig that is the ACA. They will never get Republican unity on any one particular plan, because Republicans will have to face their voters and explain why they voted for more subsidies for millionaires and billionaires.

The consequences of this is that what should happen will happen. The subsidies will expire with no "replacement," and then we will be able to see who is truly harmed by the additional out-of-pocket expenses, which will amount to about $700 per year for typical ACA market consumers.

If people are dying outside of hospitals, having been turned away because they could no longer afford healthcare insurance, then the Democrats will have an awesome talking point in 2026. If some trust fund babies, artists, and perpetual students who have specialized in avoiding getting a real job grumble about having to pay for more of their own insurance, then not so much of an issue.
Obama care falling apart....?
 
Only 1 in 7? That is a low number to lose health insurance to you? okie dokie.
Those one in seven will not lose their health insurance.They will be asked to pay about fifty seven dollars more per month than they have been paying.
 
We'll see if that happens.

If that is a realistic possibility, why do you think the Republicans are not passing an extension?

No doubt it is because they know that anyone freeloading off of the ACA supplemental subsidies is unlikely to be a Republican voter anyway.

But the hardworking Americans who Democrats expect to pay for all their second hand generosity? Yes, they are Republican voters who would stay home if Republicans started acting just like Democrats.
Red districts are 57% of the ACA recipients. That's why there is panic about it in the GOP. The GOP is balancing the hate it has for the everyday American and the need it has for their racist motivated votes. Its a delicate balance.
 
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I don't think anyone has come up with the correct answer yet.

First: The ACA has been a disaster for most of the people impacted by it. Ordinary, healthy people have seen their insurance premiums explode because their rates are now calculated in the same pool as the people with expensive "pre-existing conditions."

Second: Democrats used COVID as an excuse to conceal this massive ACA failure by giving money "under the table" to insurance carriers, thus hiding ACA's failure from the masses. They said this gambit was TEMPORARY. It was not; it was never intended to be temporary.

Third: ACA is unconstitutional (Congress has no Article I "power" to get into the health insurance business)...but people like the part were nobody can be turned down for coverage. As a result...

Fourth: The Republicans have been saying that ACA is shit for years, promising to repeal it and replace it, but...

Fifth: Any replacement for ACA that keeps the part that people like would also be unconstitutional, which many Republicans would not support.

Now, Democrats are frantic to keep the subsidies in place, AT LEAST UNTIL THE MID-TERMS, because they don't want to be blamed for the ACA disaster, since everyone knows that ACA was an exclusively-Democrat deal.

Allowing the subsidies to expire NOW would piss everyone off, and the Democrats have tried their best to place the blame on Republicans - with fervent help from the non-Fox Media.

The only "solution" would be to repeal ACA, and return to the status quo ante, which allows insurers to REJECT people with the dreaded pre-existing conditions, thus allowing rates to float down to where they should have been in the first place - high but tolerable. But then SOMETHING would have to be done for the poor bastards with the expensive health conditions...a separate program obviously, backed by the Feds.

That result, if you are following, doesn't actually save any money. It just takes the money out of one pocket and puts it in another, but it LOOKS better to most Americans. (And it's ALSO unconstitutional). Which is why it has not happened yet.
 

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