Why Bush and Cheney are lying idiots.

[DFresh]

First a couple of quotes:

“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." -- Vice President Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002.

And

“Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them." -- Bush, Nov. 3, 2002.

That said Bush still has no regrets about the war. What about regretting that you were wrong and that we went to war on false pretences. What about regretting the fact that because we did not find any WMD that our credibility to the rest of the world has been greatly affected. What about regretting the prisoners that were tortured.

I don’t know what I hate most about Bush. The fact that he is so stupid or that he can’t admit when something has gone wrong.

OK OK……I know what your going to say. Bush was just going on bad intelligence. So I’ll leave you with this except from the Washington Post regarding the above quotes:

“…….let's all remember that these comments came considerably before then-CIA Director George J. Tenet's assertion that the WMD case was a "slam dunk," in late December of 2002. By that point, Bush and Cheney had clearly already made up their minds”

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6434-2005Jan13.html

 

[dmp]

First a couple of quotes:

“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." -- Vice President Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002.

And

“Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them." -- Bush, Nov. 3, 2002.

That said Bush still has no regrets about the war. What about regretting that you were wrong and that we went to war on false pretences. What about regretting the fact that because we did not find any WMD that our credibility to the rest of the world has been greatly affected. What about regretting the prisoners that were tortured.

I don’t know what I hate most about Bush. The fact that he is so stupid or that he can’t admit when something has gone wrong.

OK OK……I know what your going to say. Bush was just going on bad intelligence. So I’ll leave you with this except from the Washington Post regarding the above quotes:

“…….let's all remember that these comments came considerably before then-CIA Director George J. Tenet's assertion that the WMD case was a "slam dunk," in late December of 2002. By that point, Bush and Cheney had clearly already made up their minds”

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6434-2005Jan13.html

Oh. My. God. Dude...you are going to get hammered...I mean flamed...I hope you aren't a girly man, cuz if you ARE I predict you'll be brought to TEARS...sobbing...boo-hoo'ing.

Trust me.

 

[Said1]

Oh. My. God. Dude...you are going to get hammered...I mean flamed...I hope you aren't a girly man, cuz if you ARE I predict you'll be brought to TEARS...sobbing...boo-hoo'ing.

Trust me.

What he said.

 

[no1tovote4]

First a couple of quotes:

“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." -- Vice President Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002.

And

“Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them." -- Bush, Nov. 3, 2002.

That said Bush still has no regrets about the war. What about regretting that you were wrong and that we went to war on false pretences. What about regretting the fact that because we did not find any WMD that our credibility to the rest of the world has been greatly affected. What about regretting the prisoners that were tortured.

I don’t know what I hate most about Bush. The fact that he is so stupid or that he can’t admit when something has gone wrong.

OK OK……I know what your going to say. Bush was just going on bad intelligence. So I’ll leave you with this except from the Washington Post regarding the above quotes:

“…….let's all remember that these comments came considerably before then-CIA Director George J. Tenet's assertion that the WMD case was a "slam dunk," in late December of 2002. By that point, Bush and Cheney had clearly already made up their minds”

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6434-2005Jan13.html

I would doubt that this was the only "slam-dunk" comment that came from Tenet. There was a reason they believed it along with Clinton, who made it a matter of US Policy to remove Saddam in 1998 by signing Legislation to that effect, and many of the Democratic Senators who voted for and put on the desk of Clinton that same Legislation. I could post a list of all their comments but why bother?

Just recently they spoke to the Media about the WMD thing and are looking into the reasons that they were misinformed. Hindsight may be perfect but obviously the intelligence is not. Tenet has lost his job and we have had Committees to find out the best way to increase the accuracy of the intel we receive. I think it is clear your entire diatribe has simply missed every point of reality there is.

Bush has admitted there are no WMD to be found (admitting he was wrong), is looking into fixing the issue (again this admits that something was done wrong and with forward thinking is looking to find out the actual cause not a scapegoat built on Political Party enmity). You are missing an entire piece of reality, it is the part behind the Democratic blinders you wear.

 

[Gem]

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

 

[Merlin1047]

First a couple of quotes:

“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." -- Vice President Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002.

:blah2:





Thank you Gem. Saved me from looking that crap up again. Funny how these lefties suffer from selective retention.

 

[DFresh]

First off no1, I’m not talking about Clinton……so just stop right there, IT’S IRRELEVENT!!!!

Second, follow the link stupid. I didn’t make this up. I’m commenting on an article from the Washington Post. Who by the way, has a lot more credibility then your post. Maybe you’re the one who needs a reality check.

 

[Annie]

Yep, what Gem said!

 

[Merlin1047]

First off no1, I’m not talking about Clinton……so just stop right there, IT’S IRRELEVENT!!!!

Second, follow the link stupid. I didn’t make this up. I’m commenting on an article from the Washington Post. Who by the way, has a lot more credibility then your post. Maybe you’re the one who needs a reality check.

First, learn to spell.

Second, check that attitude or you won't be posting many more entries.

 

[dmp]

First off no1, I’m not talking about Clinton……so just stop right there, IT’S IRRELEVENT!!!!

Second, follow the link stupid. I didn’t make this up. I’m commenting on an article from the Washington Post. Who by the way, has a lot more credibility then your post. Maybe you’re the one who needs a reality check.

Here's your problem...or the problem with your post.


You are singling out TWO Men, out of DOZENS who believed the SAME THING about a person, and making THEM the villians.

 

[no1tovote4]

First off no1, I’m not talking about Clinton……so just stop right there, IT’S IRRELEVENT!!!!

Second, follow the link stupid. I didn’t make this up. I’m commenting on an article from the Washington Post. Who by the way, has a lot more credibility then your post. Maybe you’re the one who needs a reality check.

Since you cannot simply read what I said and take it at face value I will post again. At a simpler and lower grade level of reading so that it will match your obvious lack of skills.

Bush admitted he was wrong (press release saying there are no WMD to be found)

Bush not only admitted he was wrong but has been working to improve the methods so that he will not receive more information that was bad (new Intel position, committees on intel improvements)

And lastly it is an opinion piece and therefore has exactly as much credibility as my opinion.

Therefore every assertion in your post was simply wrong. Bush not only admits when he is wrong but uses foresight to improve the situation so that the same things will not happen again. Impressive how far off your and this "reporters" opinion can be from actual reality proven through action and empirical evidence.

 

[freeandfun1]

i was wondering how long it would take for him to go into the red! :sausage:

 

[Shattered]

Daaaaaaamn. 23 minutes from thread start, to banned. That's gotta be a new record.

 

[Mr. P]

:rotflmao:
Are the losers starting to come out from under their rocks now? I don't know about you folks, but after a few years of this repetitive hate I've just stopped addressing it. Cept for Bully..but he at least has a brain,
I think.

 

[Merlin1047]

your wish is my command moron!

Jeez Evil, you ban hog, that turkey was mine! I turn around to do a little work and you've already zapped him.

 

[no1tovote4]

your wish is my command moron!

Bummer, I was going to have fun ruining his day with actual logic. I was going to give him the debate beating of his life!

 

[Merlin1047]

ban me please so I dont have to come here

So he/she/it doesn't "have" to come here?

Wonder who was standing over the dumbass and forcing him to join the site and log on?

Jim - are you strong-arming the public or something???

 

[dmp]

why are we still talking about this ass-hat?

 

[Johnney]

holy shit! its bully in disguise

First a couple of quotes:

“Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us." -- Vice President Cheney, Aug. 26, 2002.

And

“Saddam Hussein is a man who told the world he wouldn't have weapons of mass destruction, but he's got them." -- Bush, Nov. 3, 2002.

That said Bush still has no regrets about the war. What about regretting that you were wrong and that we went to war on false pretences. What about regretting the fact that because we did not find any WMD that our credibility to the rest of the world has been greatly affected. What about regretting the prisoners that were tortured.

I don’t know what I hate most about Bush. The fact that he is so stupid or that he can’t admit when something has gone wrong.

OK OK……I know what your going to say. Bush was just going on bad intelligence. So I’ll leave you with this except from the Washington Post regarding the above quotes:

“…….let's all remember that these comments came considerably before then-CIA Director George J. Tenet's assertion that the WMD case was a "slam dunk," in late December of 2002. By that point, Bush and Cheney had clearly already made up their minds”

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A6434-2005Jan13.html

 

[Mr. P]

Bummer, I was going to have fun ruining his day with actual logic. I was going to give him the debate beating of his life!

Not worth the time No1...that kind of idiot only repeats the same thing over and over, despite the proof or logic you lay out.