Why are the Pashtuns allowed to dominate Afghanistan?

[surada]

All these peoples except the Pashtuns are united. Khan himself came from that very place, from Kabul. His grandfather is Kabul Khan. The Arabs then called Mongols not the Tungus as they are now, but the great Mughals from India to the Moghulistan(Modern Uyghuristan). They were the descendants of the Indo-Aryans

The Hazara People of Afghanistan - ThoughtCo

Who Are the Hazara?

Who are the Hazara people of Afghanistan? See a glossary definition of the term Hazara from your About.com Guide to Asian History.

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Mar 08, 2017 · The Hazara are an Afghan ethnic minority group of mixed Persian, Mongolian, and Turkic ancestry. Persistant rumors hold that they are descended from Genghis Khan's army, members of which mixed with the local Persian and Turkic people. They may be remnants of the troops that carried out the Siege of Bamiyan in 1221.

 

[rupol2000]

The Hazara People of Afghanistan - ThoughtCo

Who Are the Hazara?

Who are the Hazara people of Afghanistan? See a glossary definition of the term Hazara from your About.com Guide to Asian History.

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Mar 08, 2017 · The Hazara are an Afghan ethnic minority group of mixed Persian, Mongolian, and Turkic ancestry. Persistant rumors hold that they are descended from Genghis Khan's army, members of which mixed with the local Persian and Turkic people. They may be remnants of the troops that carried out the Siege of Bamiyan in 1221.

Yes, this people is related to Genghis Khan, I think that it is because of this that they are being destroyed.
The concept of "Turkic" peoples is a political lie, the Turks are not an ethnic group but a family of languages, in the course of the recent Turkization, some of the Evenks were also Turkized.
There was Turkestan and earler Turan, this are not "Turkic", there were aryans, huns, sakas.
Genghis Khan did not attack the peoples, but liberated them from the caliphs of the Arab Caliphate, which was a totalitarian slave-owning empire.

 

[surada]

Yes, this people is related to Genghis Khan, I think that it is because of this that they are being destroyed.
The concept of "Turkic" peoples is a political lie, the Turks are not an ethnic group but a family of languages, in the course of the recent Turkization, some of the Evenks were also Turkized.
There was Turkestan and earler Turan, this are not "Turkic", there were aryans, huns, sakas.
Genghis Khan did not attack the peoples, but liberated them from the caliphs of the Arab Caliphate, which was a totalitarian slave-owning empire.

Turkic peoples - Wikipedia

Turkic peoples - Wikipedia

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The Turkic peoples are a collection of ethnic groups of Central, East, North and West Asia as well as parts of Europe and North Africa, who speak Turkic languages. The origins of the Turkic peoples has been a topic of much discussion. Recent linguistic, genetic and archaeological evidence suggests that the earliest Turkic peoples descended from agricultural communities in Northeast China who …

 

[rupol2000]

The Turkic peoples are a collection of ethnic groups

The concept of "Turkic" peoples is a political lie, the Turks are not an ethnic group but a family of languages, in the course of the recent Turkization, some of the Evenks were also Turkized.
There was Turkestan and earler Turan, this are not "Turkic", there were aryans, huns, sakas.

 

[rupol2000]

Directly Afghan "Turks" initially spoke the Indo-Aryan dialects of Margiana, Sogd and Bactria.
Then some of them were Iranized by the Sassanids, then the Arabs and Timurids influenced, and only then did they have "Turkic"

 

[rupol2000]

it looks like the Turkic languages are man-made languages of the 20th century. For example, the "Türkic" is attributed to the modern Tatars, but they became Tatars only after 1917, and before that they were the Volga Bulgars, and the old Bulgars spoke in the Old Bulgarian language, this is another name for the Old Slavonic. Altaians are also attached to Turkic, but none of them knows it, and even the fact that they learn it at school does not help, they speak Russian.

 

[rupol2000]

mixed Persian, Mongolian, and Turkic ancestry.

There is no doubt that the Hazaras are related to the Khazars of the Khazar Kaganate, from whom the Cossacks and Hussars descend. Endoethnonym of the Cossacks Hazara . They were exterminated as a nationality by the Bolsheviks, but photos were left of them. They were dark-skinned, but outwardly similar to south Europeans. Maybe the Hazaras are now partially assimilated with the Evenks, but they originally descended from the Aryan peoples, and have nothing to do with the Persians or the Turks or the Mongols in the sense of the Evenks.

 

[rupol2000]

By the way, according to the Afghan Academy of Sciences, Hazara women have no hair anywhere except the head. That is, they are distinguished by extreme infantile femininity.

 

[there4eyeM]

Why are the Pashtuns allowed to dominate Afghanistan?​

In the context, "allowed" has nothing to do with it. The allowers do the allowing, and the allowers are the most militarily strong. The continued history of violence of males in our species.

 

[rupol2000]

Why are the Pashtuns allowed to dominate Afghanistan?​

In the context, "allowed" has nothing to do with it. The allowers do the allowing, and the allowers are the most militarily strong. The continued history of violence of males in our species.

For the last two thousand years, the female principle of violence has dominated, the brahmans have held the warriors in their hands and manipulate them, but they themselves do not go to war and remain in the shadows. This is the usual style of manipulation in European matriarchy and sly women in general.

 

[ESay]

If these peoples will be reunited with the Central Asian states, with with Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan, which are now independent, then if they annex the Chinese Uighurs, they will revive Turkestan.
In fact, they are fragments of these peoples, they are simply separated from them by the regime.

So, you propose to create some sort of Turkestan federation which will include Central Asian countries (btw, what is about Kazakhstan), the significant part of Afghanistan and the Uighurs region of China?

And around what basis they will be united? What idea will make local elites give up their personal power to some united center?

BTW, the Tajiks are much closer to the Persians. And relations between Tajikistan and its neighbours haven't been so cloudless.

 

[rupol2000]

btw, what is about Kazakhstan

Kazakhstan may be, but very heterogeneous peoples live there now and that would be problematic. In Kazakhstan, some of the peoples were Turkestanis and some were not

And around what basis they will be united? What idea will make local elites give up their personal power to some united center?

On a common spirit and a common history, and in the end, just to be together and protect each other from troubles like the Taliban aggression

BTW, the Tajiks are much closer to the Persians. And relations between Tajikistan and its neighbours haven't been so cloudless.

In fact, only in language, in genetics, they are close to Uzbeks.
They come from Sogdiana, and began to speak Dari during the Sassanian Empire, when they were subordinate, this is not their native language

 

[rupol2000]

I think if the Turkestan peoples, now partially independent, do not unite, sooner or later they will also fall under the rule of China or the Taliban, and they will have the same fate as the Uighurs and Hazaras, if they do not unite now

 

[rupol2000]

they now adhere to Islamic unity, but this is a poor defense. Historically, for Islam, these were hostile peoples, and they hardly abandoned their original ideas about their fate, it just turned into a hidden game.

 

[ESay]

On a common spirit and a common history, and in the end, just to be together and protect each other from troubles like the Taliban aggression

I think what bothers the most their autocrats is personal power and wealth. And they are not going to share this with anyone.

In fact, only in language, in genetics, they are close to Uzbeks.
They come from Sogdiana, and began to speak Dari during the Sassanian Empire, when they were subordinate, this is not their native language

In the 90s a border between Uzbekistan and Tajikistan was mined in many parts.

 

[White 6]

This is the best solution for solving the Afghan issue, overcoming extremism. They will draw a clear line between Pashtuns and Turkestanis and the issue is settled. Further attempts at terrorism in the north will be seen as an attack on the country.

I wish those people well with, whatever they choose. I am just glad we do not have to prop up a government there, only operating under our protection, anymore, using our troops, our equipment, and our money.

 

[rupol2000]

It turns out that something similar has already happened, the union of Turkestanis, which took control of Afghanistan.

"The Pashtun domination of the Afghan polity eventually came to an end in April 1992 when a coalition of Tajik, Hazara and Uzbek overthrew Najibullah’s regime. From 1992 to 1996 the Tajik Burhannudin Rabbani led the central government."

https://growup.ethz.ch/atlas/pdf/Afghanistan.pdf

 

[rupol2000]

This union even has an official name. Northern Alliance

Northern Alliance - Wikipedia

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[zaangalewa]

As you know, the Taliban, which have already gathered to recognize as the Afghan official power, is a Pashtun movement.
But in fact, the Pashtuns are not the majority in Afghanistan, and besides, the number of Tajiks there is about the same. Shouldn't these claims be of concern to the United Nations Security Council? Shouldn't peacekeeping troops be brought in due to Pashtun chauvinism and violence associated with it?

And I also don't think - without to know this - that the Taliban are a majority of the Pashtuns. So some very few percent of the inhabitants of Afghanistan control now the whole country and everyones life. The Taliban have about 70,000 soldiers - the sons of the Taliban, I guess. So if it are 500,000 Taliban at all then they would be only about 1.5% of the population there.

 

[boedicca]

As you know, the Taliban, which have already gathered to recognize as the Afghan official power, is a Pashtun movement.
But in fact, the Pashtuns are not the majority in Afghanistan, and besides, the number of Tajiks there is about the same. Shouldn't these claims be of concern to the United Nations Security Council? Shouldn't peacekeeping troops be brought in due to Pashtun chauvinism and violence associated with it?

I'd rather see us address the issue of how the Marxist Minority in the U.S. dominate our public policy.