CDZ Why are republicans opposed to HR1?

[jc456]

Yes, I did. Read the thread

I did, you didn’t. Give me the post #

 

[jc456]

Why? The military have been absentee voting for something like a century. No problems there

Shallow argument. Chain of custody is intact. Do us a favor and learn what that means, then come on back

Chain of custody? You realize these people are voting from all over the world, right?

Yep, and their polling place notified of their location. Sent to camps and outposts where they are, returned by military custody. Never outside it.

They're returned by postal service through various agencies since the USPS is not world wide.

They’re returned by the military because of that. Thanks for confirming my statement

 

[jc456]

Well we aren't going to keep living with your half trying to reduce our ability to vote nationwide based on a lie. The election was not stolen and we are not going sit idly by letting what you imagine restrict our right to vote

You keep saying that, but have not proved your statement. What do you mean by reduce exactly?

 

[asaratis]

Willful stupidity is absolutely the worst kind, my friend.

Willful stupidity is exactly what the socialist/Marxist/communist Democrat Party and its deranged cheerleaders exhibit! Any adult that is aware of the history of nations that have completed the journey toward unnecessary collectivism and centralized authoritarian government occupies a position at the pinnacle of stupidity.

This includes our collectively demented Democrat Party and all globalists.

Lol, nice deflection. You score 5 outta 10 onnthe rant scale too. (I'm docking you 3 points for the lie and 2 more for being off topic)

Not off topic. Not a rant. Just the truth....and very much why Republicans are opposed to HR1.

It was both. Get over it, get back in topic, or get out.

 

[jc456]

Please show were it states that auto registration enrolls illegals, AND why cant either party manage to handle things so it's one citizen one vote?

Sanctuary city laws. That’s easy

 

[asaratis]

Well we aren't going to keep living with your half trying to reduce our ability to vote nationwide based on a lie. The election was not stolen and we are not going sit idly by letting what you imagine restrict our right to vote

You keep saying that, but have not proved your statement. What do you mean by reduce exactly?

Likely he means we want to reduce their ability to allow---non-citizens to vote, voting out of one's precinct of residence, voting in the name of dead people, voting without any ID, voting after election day, one person voting multiple times, unverified signatures, ballot harvesting, ignoring records of chain-of-possession, et al.----the things that enable the Democrat Party to win elections

 

[presonorek]

I'm sure you realize that it does none of that and in fact, violates the Constitution in a number of areas.

But you want the Democrats to be in charge of elections so you'll buy whatever bullshit story you are fed.

Can’t people just register to vote on their 18th birthday, vote on Election Day and shoot anybody in the face that tries to stop them?

The only voter law I would make is allowing people that registered to vote one year prior to the election to shoot people in the face with a gun that try to stop them from voting.

If you registered to vote one year or more prior to the election and someone tries to disenfranchise you, they deserve to be shot dead. If you register to vote 364 days or less prior to the election then you screwed yourself. I have no sympathy. Presidential election years are highly predictable. We will have another one in November 2024. Register to vote now so you don’t miss it. Don’t wait until 2 days before the election dumb ass. I wish we murdered people that try to register to vote within 90 days of an election that could have been predicted 100 years ago. It is the first Tuesday in November every four years. Jesus fucking Christ, why ain’t we murdering people for being so stupid?

HR1 isn’t necessary. Just kill dumb asses that try to register to vote within 90 days of an election. Kill them hard as hell until you can’t kill them any harder.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

All I can say is that I am amazed at all the leftists who think black people are too stupid and incompetant to get an I.d.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

it basically takes away a lot of individual freedom and increases the power of government...

Name those individual freedoms enumerated by Article, Section and Clause in the Constitution which would be taken away from the People and those governmental powers taken from the People and absorbed by the government!

If the Dems ram through nationalizing our elections, they'll only accomplish tearing the country down sooner. The other half of this country will NOT live with an illegitimate band of corrupt assholes who want to put a boot on our neck. If you want that, it's going to take more than one stolen election. If you guys are SURE you're up to it, come get some!

If the Dems ram through nationalizing our elections, they'll only accomplish tearing the country down sooner. The other half of this country will NOT live with an illegitimate band of corrupt assholes who want to put a boot on our neck. If you want that, it's going to take more than one stolen election. If you guys are SURE you're up to it, come get some!

Just what does that rabid rant have to do with what I wrote. Nationalizing elections has nothing to do with the subject I have been writing about since my post #3. But if you can concentrate now, I'll switch topics just for you...'K?

You're likely another unfamiliar with the "Guarantee Clause" of the Constitution. Here it is for your edification;

"The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence." ~~ Article IV ~~

There is no thought of "Nationalizing" bloody elections... such drama! If a State government, like say Georgia, conceives a plan that usurps the rights of the People in denying the People free and fair elections sans the onerous taint of Old Jim Crow then a republican form of government, guaranteed by the Constitution would not prevail. Therefore, the People of Georgia would have the right to petition the courts to redress those grievances with proof of the lack of a republican form of government. You can learn more about the Constitution by utilizing your public library.

 

[jc456]

All I can say is that I am amazed at all the leftists who think black people are too stupid and incompetant to get an I.d.

Then deny they said it! Hilarious

 

[asaratis]

All I can say is that I am amazed at all the leftists who think black people are too stupid and incompetant to get an I.d.

Then deny they said it! Hilarious

When I search for that phase. I find an article that has it in quotation marks:
...“Black Americans are way too stupid and incompetent to get voter ID like all the other races” ...

Is that quote attributed to a person or a placard, or is it paraphrased?

I believe that's what the liberals are implying but do not know if one actually said it.

 

[jc456]

...“Black Americans are way too stupid and incompetent to get voter ID like all the other races

Except, that’s what they might believe, but say out loud

Black Americans are way too stupid and incompetent to get voter ID

 

[RetiredGySgt]

All I can say is that I am amazed at all the leftists who think black people are too stupid and incompetant to get an I.d.

Then deny they said it! Hilarious

When I search for that phase. I find an article that has it in quotation marks:
...“Black Americans are way too stupid and incompetent to get voter ID like all the other races” ...

Is that quote attributed to a person or a placard, or is it paraphrased?

I believe that's what the liberals are implying but do not know if one actually said it.

No one on the left is actually dumb enough to SAY that, Just imply it

 

[asaratis]

No one on the left is actually dumb enough to SAY that,

You give them far too much credit!

 

[merrill]

It is always good to do homework then we can realize how important HR 1 is to we voters who prefer ethics, transparency and removing special interest money from campaigns BECAUSE elected officials spend hours
daily chasing money as if that is why they were elected. There are a few comments that reveal some have done some homework ........

About HR 1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/05/hr1-bill-what-is-it/

10 Things One Might Not Know About HR 1

10 things you might not know about HR 1 - Roll Call​

As the House begins debate Wednesday on HR 1 — the Democratic majority’s package overhauling voting, campaign finance and ethics law — some parts of the bill will likely get more attention than others, but several under-the-radar provisions in the 622-page legislation would nevertheless have...

 

[asaratis]

It is always good to do homework then we can realize how important HR 1 is to we voters who prefer ethics, transparency and removing special interest money from campaigns BECAUSE elected officials spend hours
daily chasing money as if that is why they were elected. There are a few comments that reveal some have done some homework ........

About HR 1
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/05/hr1-bill-what-is-it/

10 Things One Might Not Know About HR 1

10 things you might not know about HR 1 - Roll Call​

As the House begins debate Wednesday on HR 1 — the Democratic majority’s package overhauling voting, campaign finance and ethics law — some parts of the bill will likely get more attention than others, but several under-the-radar provisions in the 622-page legislation would nevertheless have...

Regardless of what you may think of HR 1 and what's in it, it is designed to aid the Democrats in their goal to "win" every election that occurs in the future. Many of the provisions within it are unconstitutional and would require amending the constitution in order to be legal.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Why are republicans opposed to HR1?

It's seems to me there is nothing but good in this bill. Someone please explain why the republicans hate it.

H.R. 1 FACT SHEET

CLEAN AND FAIR ELECTIONS

Improve Access – H.R. 1 expands access to the ballot box by taking aim at institutional barriers to voting, including cumbersome voter registration systems, disenfranchisement and limited voting hours. H.R. 1 will create automatic voter registration across the country, ensure that individuals who have completed felony sentences have their full voting rights restored, expand early voting and enhance absentee voting, simplify voting by mail, reduce long lines and wait times for voters and modernize America’s voting system.

Promote Integrity – H.R. 1 commits Congress to build the record necessary to restore the Voting Rights Act, as embodied by the House-passed H.R. 4. It also commits Congress to deliver full congressional voting rights and self-government for the residents of the District of Columbia, which only statehood can provide, prohibits voter roll purges like those seen in Ohio, Georgia and elsewhere and ends partisan gerrymandering to prevent politicians from picking their voters.

Ensure Security – H.R. 1 ensures that American elections are decided by American voters, without interference, by enhancing federal support for voting system security, particularly with paper ballots and also by increasing oversight of election system vendors and by requiring the development of a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions.

END THE DOMINANCE OF BIG MONEY IN OUR POLITICS

Guarantee Disclosure – H.R. 1 shines a light on dark money in politics by upgrading online political ad disclosure and requiring all organizations involved in political activity to disclose their large donors. H.R. 1 also breaks the so-called ‘nesting-doll’ sham that allows big-money contributors and special interests to hide the true funding source of their political spending.

Empower Citizens – H.R. 1 strengthens the political power of hardworking Americans by creating a multiple matching system for small donations. This innovative, 21st-century system of citizen-owned elections will break the stranglehold of special interests on Congress and lay the groundwork for an agenda that meets the needs of the American people. The voluntary multiple matching system will be completely paid for by a new surcharge on corporate law breakers and wealthy tax cheats. That way, the individuals and corporations who break the public trust – like Wells Fargo, which created fake bank accounts for unwitting customers, or Volkswagen, which lied about harmful carbon emissions from its vehicles, or Facebook, which violates Americans’ privacy, or Purdue Pharma, which fueled the opioid crisis – bear the cost of building a more just and equitable democracy. H.R. 1 also reaffirms Congress’ authority to regulate money in politics, pushing back on the Supreme Court’s wrong-headed Citizens United decision.

Strengthen Oversight – H.R. 1 ensures that there are cops on the campaign finance beat that will enforce the laws on the books. H.R. 1 tightens rules on super PACs and restructures the Federal Election Commission to break the gridlock and enhance its enforcement mechanisms. It also repeals Mitch McConnell’s riders that prevent government agencies from requiring commonsense disclosure of political spending.

ENSURE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST

Fortify Ethics Law – H.R. 1 breaks the influence economy in Washington and increases accountability by expanding conflict of interest law and divestment requirements, slowing the revolving door, preventing Members of Congress from serving on corporate boards and requiring presidents to disclose their tax returns.

Impose Greater Ethics Enforcement – H.R. 1 gives teeth to federal ethics oversight by overhauling the Office of Government Ethics, closing loopholes for lobbyists and foreign agents, ensuring watchdogs have sufficient resources to enforce the law and creating a code of ethics for the Supreme Court.

HR1, the For the People Act

sarbanes.house.gov

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It opens the door for more election fraud.

 

[asaratis]

It opens the door for more election fraud.

...the Democrats favorite tool...one without they would likely never win.

 

[sartre play]

Excellent rant, but it's not just Republicans, certainly not all Republicans, some Democrats, and others. Our enemy is The Haves. ALEC initiates this crap because that's what the billionaires pay them to do. Sure, on average, Republicans probably embrace it more than any others, but pointing to and blaming them exclusively is just being divisive (dividing and conquering, destructive) for no reason. We get herded into parties. We don't necessarily identify with any one's particular platforms at any given time.

I sure wish that was true.

 

[sartre play]

Read the links I posted. It involves the federal government usurping the powers of the state legislatures regarding rules of elections in their states.

Try this one instead: It is to the point.

Twenty Republican Attorneys General Argue HR1 Is Unconstitutional - Tennessee Star

Twenty Republican attorneys general argue that HR1, the “For the People Act,” which passed the U.S. House late in the night on Wednesday, is unconstitutional.

tennesseestar.com

Read the links I posted. It involves the federal government usurping the powers of the state legislatures regarding rules of elections in their states.

Try this one instead: It is to the point.

Twenty Republican Attorneys General Argue HR1 Is Unconstitutional - Tennessee Star

Twenty Republican attorneys general argue that HR1, the “For the People Act,” which passed the U.S. House late in the night on Wednesday, is unconstitutional.

tennesseestar.com

Do you not notice that the statement seems to only be supported by Republican attorneys generals? So its political posturing? NO decent noted.