Why Americans are Obese, Diabetic and Have Heart Disease

[Carl in Michigan]

When you eat homemade bread made from genuine ingredients, you can't consider what is wrapped in plastic on the supermarket shelf to be real bread. When you eat real butter, margarine tastes like shit. Real maple syrup tapped from any maple tree is better than Yo Moma's artificially brown-colored corn syrup, in fact, it is the nectar of the gods. Micro-brewed or craft-brewed beer made from farm-to-table ingredients is superior to the corporate piss water claimed to be beer at the party store.

I have great memories of my parents making bread when I was young. There was nothing better than hot fresh bread with melted butter and honey!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Just away.

I honestly hope everything is going well

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Where I find the #2 fault is with our doctors who do little or nothing to help guide people toward better food choices and diets

I only recently really understood that doctors only practice MEDICINE and not GOOD HEALTH. There is a difference.
Nobody gets out of this alive, but I know when my time comes it will have roots in the poor choices I made as long as 30 years ago.

 

[Unkotare]

If you want to put on weight: get married.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Natural Citizen thinks anybody but himself offering some advice to live a long and happy life, should "mind their business" while telling everyone else to STFU

No, you're incorrect.

I do not give other people advice. Particularly anything which can be construed as unsolicited medical advice or any intruction thereto.

I mind my own business in that regard.

And I, for one, certainly don't need, nor do I ask, for some Internet diaper sniffer to advise me regarding what I should and shouldn't, as you say, put into my pie hole.

So, yes, you can do you and go chew on a twig or a leaf or some seeds or whatever and I'll do me. How's that for advice, Carlin?

 

[toobfreak]

I only recently really understood that doctors only practice MEDICINE and not GOOD HEALTH. There is a difference.

Doctors practice what insurance companies will pay them for, and insurance companies can only afford to pay for so much good health before they lose profitability. Case in point: about a year ago, I was at my PCP getting checked up and there was a new med grad student getting office experience, so, I asked her, HOW MANY BONES WERE IN THE BODY? You know, basic, general medical knowledge that I learned at the age of 5-6 just picking up my first book on the body. Her reply? "I am not an osteopath, so I have no idea." Wow.

Nobody gets out of this alive, but I know when my time comes it will have roots in the poor choices I made as long as 30 years ago.

Well, FWIW, I became interested in anatomy, physiology and medicine around the age of 5. I studied all about the body and how everything works for years until an interest in astronomy took around 10-11. Then in HS, I switched from an astronomy career path into EE as a more practical and profitable career choice. In between, I grew up with a father in the meat business, became a vegetarian for 20 years, and became heavily invested in studying alternative medicine like herbology, so I understand roots, plants, folklore and practical effects.

During that time, I lectured people on the importance of diet, herbs and eating, lifestyle choices, I even used to make my own herbal compilations for others and put them together in capsules to treat systemic effects. Finally about 15 years ago, a good friend and chef talked me into going back to eating beef again and I have not regretted it-- protein is an important food source, and while I would probably starve before killing another living thing, I get by eating meat already prepared for consumption in the supermarket! Nor do I ever judge those who hunt for game, food or sport just because I wouldn't do it myself. I value the importance of guns and the fact that for hundreds of years, the gun (or bow) is how people survived (and if push came to shove, it wouldn't take much for people today to need to do that again).

But perhaps the most important thing I learned over the years is that my choices are my business for my own reasons and I do not need lectured by others as I probably know things many doctors do not! Likewise, I've come to learn to respect other people's choices for what they eat, so I refrain from telling others MY opinions about what they should or should not eat or how they should live. It just isn't by business to judge their decisions. Of course, if someone actually wants my informed opinion, I would give them my advice on what I know. But the fact of the matter is that everyone knows that fresh natural food and good eating decisions are better for you, but it is up to the individual to make their own choices, not upon me to push my views on others. There is no right or wrong, just a lot of choices different people make for innumerable reasons. That is their right to eat and live as they see best.

As to the FDA, I wish they steered our food industry more towards the European system of small, local producers of fresh, wholesome, natural foods instead of giant conglomerates mass-producing food in giant factories to be shipped to huge supermarkets! And I wish our health industry was more geared towards preventative medicine and healthy living instead of just pushing pills and waiting for disease to take effect before prescribing radical surgical solutions.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Likewise, I've come to learn to respect other people's choices for what they eat, so I refrain from telling others MY opinions about what they should or should not eat or how they should live. It just isn't by business to judge their decisions

Once again, the pro choice defense from a conservative.

Nobody can stop you from making your choices just as you cannot stop me from telling you you're making a bad choice. Just as you would probably tell a young woman thinking about killing her baby that she's about to make a very bad choice.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Finally about 15 years ago, a good friend and chef talked me into going back to eating beef again and I have not regretted it-- protein is an important food source

I probably get more quality protein in my diet than you. In fact, we both probably get too much. You, because you're been led to believe you NEED excess amounts. Me, because diabetes limits my food choices.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

and while I would probably starve before killing another living thing

And yet , in your heart, you know you just lied

 

[sparky]

I only recently really understood that doctors only practice MEDICINE and not GOOD HEALTH. There is a difference.
Nobody gets out of this alive, but I know when my time comes it will have roots in the poor choices I made as long as 30 years ago.

But what if you outlive those doctors Carl?

~S~

 

[toobfreak]

And yet , in your heart, you know you just lied

Carl, I like you, you post a lot of good stuff here that I agree with and I've supported you, but you have no idea my value for life or whether I would eat roots and things before taking another life just to survive. Nor are you free to lecture me on protein as again, what I eat or how I eat it or anyone else's is NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.

Nor do I appreciate you laughing at my quite candid account of my life. But if all you want to do is piss people off imposing YOUR unasked opinions on what you think you know about food and other people's life decisions, go right ahead and keep alienating yourself.

Me, I suddenly don't respect you so much anymore and you obviously don't value my opinions nor friendship, and so have decided to put you on IGNORE. Maybe I will take you back off in a few months to see if you've come to your senses and grown up a little. Bye.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

and while I would probably starve before killing another living thing

Don't lie to me. Or to yourself

 

[braalian]

Doctors practice what insurance companies will pay them for, and insurance companies can only afford to pay for so much good health before they lose profitability. Case in point: about a year ago, I was at my PCP getting checked up and there was a new med grad student getting office experience, so, I asked her, HOW MANY BONES WERE IN THE BODY? You know, basic, general medical knowledge that I learned at the age of 5-6 just picking up my first book on the body. Her reply? "I am not an osteopath, so I have no idea." Wow

You knowing a random piece of anatomical trivia that she didn’t doesn’t make her a bad doctor.

I’m sure at some point in med school she learned that particular factoid. But since knowing the exact number of bones has zero relevance in diagnosing or treating a patient why on earth should she remember it?

I’ve been a nurse for close to 15 years. I have no idea how many bones are in the human body and it’s never remotely come up in any patient care related context, ever.

Again, it’s random trivia that you seem to think somehow makes you superior

 

[toobfreak]

You knowing a random piece of anatomical trivia that she didn’t doesn’t make her a bad doctor.

The number of bones decreases with age. You are born with more. Also, one bone in the body is not attached to any of the other bones.
Any idea which one?
My point was that I learned this at age 5-6. It was spelled out in a $1 book my dad bought me at the supermarket (part of a 12 vol. encyclopedia set) circa 1962.
It may be trivia to you but I still remember the number. But I was just a kid.
Apparently I had more interest in the body than this grown woman who went into it as a career otherwise she would be curious to know as well.
As a medical professional, there is a LOWER limit required of your knowledge but YOU set the upper limit. You are NEVER made a worse doctor by knowing MORE.
This separates the merely pedestrian from the pioneers.
The point was that she wrote off my knowledge not as a credit to my interest, but as something she didn't NEED to know because she wasn't an orthopedic specialist!
I wonder if my orthopedic special knows?
What does that say about her general interest and knowledge?
This is far from the only time I've found I knew more than my doctor.
Guess that is why I was studying the construction of the heart and brain and blood chemistry and much more at age 5 and she wasn't.

 

[braalian]

The point was that she wrote off my knowledge not as a credit to my interest, but as something she didn't NEED to know because she wasn't an orthopedic specialist

I mean, she really doesn’t need to know the number of bones in the human body….

What scenario would knowing that piece of trivia come in handy?

This is far from the only time I've found I knew more than my doctor.

Again, knowing random factoids is not the same thing as “knowing more”.

I’m afraid to ask how much “more” you think you know than nurses you’ve had…

 

[luiza]

Research mission for Johns Hopkins ,

Factors that have led us to test among American adults ( no illegals)for proof of a a direct correlation between increased stomach size and reduced brain functions .

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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[Captain Caveman]

Really take a little time and examine what you stick in your pie hole for a couple days
6.5 ounces of sugar

Portion size, sugar, and chemicals. Allthree are of the scale in the US.

 

[d0gbreath]

Super size it. Supersize everything!

That is the reason.

I've heard that "Supersize everything" is one of the 7 deadly sins.