Why 2nd Amendment supporters who support mandatory training are wrong….

[Dadoalex]

They aren't killing 40,000 people a year......

In 2020 24,292 people committed suicide with guns......

The vast majority of the actual gun murder victims are criminals, murdered by other criminals.....

Your number gets smaller and smaller as you leave suicide and criminals murdering each other.....

And again...how many lives are saved each year with guns?

Case Closed: Kleck Is Still Correct

that makes for at least 176,000 lives saved—

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EVERY person killed by a firearm is a gun death.
EVERY gun death is a preventable death.
EVERY person wounded by a firearm was wounded by a firearm.
EVERY gun injury is a preventable injury.

Your fantasies about "saving lives" with guns are just that, fantasies.

 

[Dadoalex]

As do guns.....they save lives and stop violent criminals.

A firearm's only purpose is to kill.
A lock stops violent criminals
Common sense stops violent criminals
Streetlight stop violent criminals

But guns don't care about violent criminals.
Guns kill whoever happens to be standing in front of them.

 

[marvin martian]

But you can claim freedom of speech if you are on top of an overturned police car with a flaming bottle in hand shouting Charge!

You people did that all summer long in 2020. How many people were convicted?

 

[SavannahMann]

You people did that all summer long in 2020. How many people were convicted?

More than 14,000 nationally.

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[Jarlaxle]

And there you go again looking stupid for all to see.

Of course, fool, you don't need inline quotes to look stupid.
It comes to you naturally.

It's not my fault you're too stupid to use the multiquote feature. Stop railing against your betters. (Everyone is your better.)

A firearm's only purpose is to kill.
A lock stops violent criminals
Common sense stops violent criminals
Streetlight stop violent criminals

But guns don't care about violent criminals.
Guns kill whoever happens to be standing in front of them.

That's idiotic even by your standards.

 

[Blues Man]

Laws require pools to be fenced and the fence gate to be secure.

Your point?

And more kids still drown than get killed in gun accidents.

Why aren't parents force to take "training" to become certified lifeguards?

Just think of all the kids you'd save from drowning.

 

[Blues Man]

Didn't say that liar.

So then tell me how will "training" on how to put a gun in a lock box reduce crime?

It won't

 

[Blues Man]

You prove it, fool.

Prove that "most" suicides by gun are by the gun owner

We're waiting.

Gee that was easy

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-11-18/unlocked-loaded-most-guns-used-in-suicides-are-easily-accessed

FRIDAY, Nov. 18, 2022 (HealthDay News) -- Guns cause more than half of all suicides in the United States each year, and new research finds most of these are handguns owned by the deceased

 

[Blues Man]

EVERY person killed by a firearm is a gun death.
EVERY gun death is a preventable death.
EVERY person wounded by a firearm was wounded by a firearm.
EVERY gun injury is a preventable injury.

Your fantasies about "saving lives" with guns are just that, fantasies.

Every car crash is a preventable car crash
Every accidental fall is a preventable accidental fall
Every case of medical malpractice is a preventable one
Every plane, train or bus crash is a preventable one

Only idiots think a world free of accidents is possible.

Humans have never been able to prevent murder or crime or suicide from occurring and yet you think this magical gun "training" of yours will do just that

 

[Cellblock2429]

All those other object have a purpose other than murder.

/—-/ So? What things don’t have more than one purpose?

 

[Blues Man]

A firearm's only purpose is to kill.
A lock stops violent criminals
Common sense stops violent criminals
Streetlight stop violent criminals

But guns don't care about violent criminals.
Guns kill whoever happens to be standing in front of them.

People kill people
People have always killed people
People will always kill people

This is a law of the universe as irrefutable as gravity.

I was standing in front of my open gun safe the other day and none of those guns killed me because I happened to be standing in front of them

 

[Blues Man]

/—-/ So? What things don’t have more than one purpose?

Did you buy your gun to commit murder?

I know I didn't.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Just how stupid are you stretch?

It is legal to use a firearm
as a hammer
as a drill
to prop open a door
to open a window...

Using a firearm stupidly is not illegal, fool.

But using a firearm for its intended purpose means killing someone.
It has no other purpose.

Dumbass just keep showing your ignorance
Damn straight I will kill someone with my gun if they try to harm me or my family. Damn straight that's its intended purpose.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

He said what he said.
No graduate, no training , no gun.

That you choose to lie about it is not surprising.

He never said the only place you could get firearm training was in school. But you can't quit school until you're 16 so freshmen year in high school you meet your stupidity.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Did you buy your gun to commit murder?

I know I didn't.

/——-/ I’ve murdered hundreds of skeet so far. I just love blasting them as they try and fly away.

 

[Dadoalex]

It's not my fault you're too stupid to use the multiquote feature. Stop railing against your betters. (Everyone is your better.)

That's idiotic even by your standards.

Still looking like a moron despite attempts to be helped.

 

[Dadoalex]

And more kids still drown than get killed in gun accidents.

Why aren't parents force to take "training" to become certified lifeguards?

Just think of all the kids you'd save from drowning.

Guns don't care how tall you are.
and
Pools killed fewer than 500 kids last year while guns killed almost 2000.

Perhaps your ass isn't a great source?

 

[Dadoalex]

So then tell me how will "training" on how to put a gun in a lock box reduce crime?

It won't

It will remind owners to secure their weapons.
Secured weapons are less likely to be stolen and therefore less likely to be used in crime.

Surely this is not difficult to understand.

 

[Dadoalex]

Gee that was easy

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2022-11-18/unlocked-loaded-most-guns-used-in-suicides-are-easily-accessed

FRIDAY, Nov. 18, 2022 (HealthDay News) -- Guns cause more than half of all suicides in the United States each year, and new research finds most of these are handguns owned by the deceased

Thanks for that.

Oh, by the way, from YOUR source...

"
Men were twice as likely as women to use a rifle in their death. They were also more likely to store their firearms unlocked.
Also, younger individuals were more likely to have used firearms that had been stored unlocked. This may indicate they were using unsecured guns owned by their parents, researchers said."


Lock them up and save lives.
Safety training will reinforce this.

 

[Dadoalex]

Every car crash is a preventable car crash
Every accidental fall is a preventable accidental fall
Every case of medical malpractice is a preventable one
Every plane, train or bus crash is a preventable one

Only idiots think a world free of accidents is possible.

Humans have never been able to prevent murder or crime or suicide from occurring and yet you think this magical gun "training" of yours will do just that

I told my kids...

There are no accidents.
"Accidents" happen when people don't do what they're supposed to do.
Or
When people do what they're not supposed to do.

Everything else is an act of God.

We require training to drive a car to reduce accidents
We require training to fly or drive a bus to reduce accidents

What we don't require training for and what you fools so virulently oppose is safety training for the most deadly of "accident" causes.

That, TBH, is just plain stupid.