Whose Truth Should We Be Allowed To Hear?

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1.Two points right at the start: the Democrats are the party of the rich….Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg…..Hunter Biden. The old tale that the Republicans are the party of the rich? A fable.

2. And, second, but more important point is that the Democrat party is the party of censorship, of opposition to free speech.
In an America supposedly guided by the Constitution, wherein we find the first amendment… Congress shall make no lawabridging the freedom of speech,…we find the major political party doing, and planning to do, exactly that.


Consider this:
Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????


The 1954 federal Johnson Amendment prohibits a pastor from talking about candidates from the pulpit in light of Scripture. Thus, based on what a pastor says about an election from the pulpit, the tax code allows the government to tax a church. Consider that in light of the Internal Revenue Service's increasingly vague regulations, and you have a recipe for the censorship of religion. The IRS, through those vague regulations, reserves for itself tremendous discretion and power to decide which churches to punish for violations of the Johnson Amendment and which not to punish.”
Why don't churches pay taxes?

Any reading of the first amendment will prove this to be unconstitutional.



3. As Liberals/Democrat have grown stronger, they now apply the same censorship everywhere they can. For several months, perhaps longer, there has been a constant complaint by conservatives that they have been banned, censored, ‘shadow banned,’ whatever, on social media. One might argue that these are privately owned, by wealthy Democrats/Liberals, and that they are simply supporting their party.
I say it is unamerican and requires the same response that government used in citing monopolies.
The fact is, Democrat/Liberals/Progressives have no intention of allowing debate, as they always lose same. And, they use the same advantages to silence the other side when they gain power in government.



4. Which brings up the Supreme Court case, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission. “The case revolved around the documentary Hillary: The Movie, which was produced by Citizens United. Under the McCain-Feingold law, a federal court in Washington D.C. ruled that Citizens United would be barred from advertising its film.[18] The case (08-205, 558 U.S. 50 (2010)) was heard in the United States Supreme Court on March 24, 2009. During oral argument, the government argued that under existing precedents, it had the power under the Constitution to prohibit the publication of books and movies if they were made or sold by corporations.” Citizens United (organization) - Wikipedia



5. While those not paying close attention might have been fooled into believing that the case was about whether a particular entity could use money in a particular manner, it was actually a case of the Democrats claiming the right to censor speech.

In particular, it is the Democrats forbidding criticism of politicians. Democrat politicians...and their policies and practices.

And this thread is a cautionary tale for the upcoming election.
 
1.Two points right at the start: the Democrats are the party of the rich….Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg…..Hunter Biden. The old tale that the Republicans are the party of the rich? A fable.
The TRUTH is that is pretty evenly split but the the rich seem to slightly prefer the GOP 33% to 32% for the Dems.
 
Your thread title perfectly describes right wing crazy. There is no "My" truth or "Your" truth. There is only truth that is the same for everybody.
Well, that's the problem. Now that we have managed to literally separate ourselves from those who dare to disagree with us, now that we literally exist in separate and parallel informational universes, "truth" no longer has a specific meaning.

And those who are pushing this, defending it, advocating it and enabling it are the primary driving force behind our constantly-increasing divisions.

But remember, this is a war to them. Anything goes. "The casualty of war is truth".
 
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Religious organizations are tax exempt thus the constitutional argument they cannot comment on politics, but they do and abortion has been the tool that brought them into politics. The irony here they care more for the unborn than the living child, suppose they were taxed and that money actually contributed to helping living children and women in tough situations? Caged children don't matter either, demonstrating the hypocrisy of religion. But seriously medicare, medicaid, social security, minimum wage, have done more good for Americans than all the hallelujahs combined and guess who did them. Democrats. Yep.

Proud boys and Cohen on Trump and family. For the thoughtful reader.

Trump's appeal is hate and let's hope religious and other American institutions call him out and vote him out. He is an embarrassment. Insecure men like Trump and the proud boys are threats to decency. Labels come to stand for substance.

"The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist male-only organization that promotes and engages in political violence. It is based in the United States and has a presence in Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom."


Cohen on Trump family.




The irony too is the dishonesty of the Trump family and business was covered in book below long ago but Americans don't read sadly.

 
1.Two points right at the start: the Democrats are the party of the rich….Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg…..Hunter Biden. The old tale that the Republicans are the party of the rich? A fable.
The TRUTH is that is pretty evenly split but the the rich seem to slightly prefer the GOP 33% to 32% for the Dems.


Being a Democrat, I understand you don't actually read books....so you'll pass on this one that documents that the Democrat Party is the party of the rich:

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“The New Leviathan,” David Horowitz and Jacob Laksin

  1. In the conventional wisdom, it is Republicans and the political right, with their corporate sponsors and big-money donors who make up the “party of the rich,” while progressives speak for the poor and powerless.
    1. And conservatives are agents of an economic “ruling class” organized to defend its social privileges.
    2. And Democrats are the party of “working Americans and their families.”
    3. They're for the powerful, we're for the people!” Al Gore, http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_nf=1&gs_mss=Al%20Gore%3A%20They&pq=obtunded%20definition&cp=38&gs_id=6g&xhr=t&q=Al%20Gore%3A%20They're%20for%20the%20powerful%3B%20we're%20for%20the%20people&pf=p&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Al+Gore:+They're+for+the+powerful%3B+we're+for+the+people&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=708bd950daecd80b&biw=1152&bih=773
  2. This is standard progressive folklore. Provably false.
  3. As of 2009, the financial assets of the 115 major tax-exempt foundations of the Left add up to $104.56 billlion. Not only is this total not less than the financial assets of the 75 foundations of the Right, it was more than ten times greater! [p. 8]
    1. Bradley, Olin, Scaife, the “Big Three” conservative foundations, not one has assets exceeding $1 billion. (Olin has been defunct since 2005).
Scaife Foundation has assets totaling $244 million.

Bradley Foundation, $623 million.

  1. Fourteen progressive foundations do, including Gates, Ford, Robert Wood Johnson, Hewlett, Kellogg, Packard, MacArthur, Mellon, Rockefeller, Casey, Carnegie, Simons, Heinz, and the Open Society Institute.
Ford alone has 16 times what Bradley has.

Soros has claimed that he has donated over $7 billion to his Open Society organizations.

The leading Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, $33 billion.

  1. With over $100 billion in tax-exempt assets at their disposal, left-wing foundations have been able to invest massively greater amounts in their beneficiary groups. Ford gave more in one year than Scaife in 40!
    1. “By compiling a computerized record of nearly all his contributions over the last four decades, The Washington Post found that Scaife and his family's charitable entities have given at least $340 million to conservative causes and institutions… The Ford Foundation gave away $491 million in 1998 alone.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/scaifemain050299.htm
Top Ten Donors, 2016 Campaign:

Fahr LLC, Renaissance Technologies, Paloma Partners, Newsweb Corp., NextGen Climate, Priorities USA, Soros …..to the Democrats: $311 million

Los Vegas Sands, Adelson Clinic, Elliott Management, Renaissance Technologies….to Republicans: $110 million
Organization Profiles



Shall we get to Soros???
 
Religious organizations are tax exempt thus the constitutional argument they cannot comment on politics, but they do and abortion has been the tool that brought them into politics. The irony here they care more for the unborn than the living child, suppose they were taxed and that money actually contributed to helping living children and women in tough situations? Caged children don't matter either, demonstrating the hypocrisy of religion. But seriously medicare, medicaid, social security, minimum wage, have done more good for Americans than all the hallelujahs combined and guess who did them. Democrats. Yep.

Proud boys and Cohen on Trump and family. For the thoughtful reader.

Trump's appeal is hate and let's hope religious and other American institutions call him out and vote him out. He is an embarrassment. Insecure men like Trump and the proud boys are threats to decency. Labels come to stand for substance.

"The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist male-only organization that promotes and engages in political violence. It is based in the United States and has a presence in Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom."


Cohen on Trump family.




The irony too is the dishonesty of the Trump family and business was covered in book below long ago but Americans don't read sadly.





Why did you dodge the question.....?

Under Democrat/Liberal LBJ, the law was passed that deprived pastors of their right of free speech.
What possible compelling government interest could this represent????




In doing so, you've helped prove the point of the OP.

Drop by anytime, middy.
 
If you cared about the country you wouldn't vote for either party.


In a constellation of your stupid observations, this one is way up near the top.

But, please.....take you own advice.

I will be. After the debates I have to imagine many more are considering the other parties.


"Imagine" is the operative term in most of your posts......you really should try to incorporate more 'thinking.'
 
A careful study of this thread will prove...PROVE...that the Democrats/Progressives do not believe in free speech....and all should take that understanding into the voting booth in November.



6. The Constitution is the law of the land, the only set of laws that the people of this nation have agreed to be governed by, yet we have Justices who believe that their view is more important than the Constitution itself.

And since Progressives pay no consideration to any oaths they take….then they’re fine with this: Each justice or judge of the United States shall take the following oath or affirmation before performing the duties of his office:

“I, ___ ___, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as ___ under the Constitution and laws of the United States. So help me God.”
28 U.S. Code § 453 - Oaths of justices and judges

Of course, Progressives are atheists, too, so that oath is not a problem for them.



7. If this weren’t the case, how would Elena Kagan have gotten the nod, having written that she believed government can abolish the free speech with which it disagrees?

"In her 1993 article "Regulation of Hate Speech and Pornography After R.A.V," for the University of Chicago Law Review, Kagan writes:
"I take it as a given that we live in a society marred by racial and gender inequality, that certain forms of speech perpetuate and promote this inequality, and that the uncoerced disappearance of such speech would be cause for great elation."

In a 1996 paper, "Private Speech, Public Purpose: The Role of Governmental Motive in First Amendment Doctrine," Kagan argued it may be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
That paper asserted First Amendment doctrine is comprised of "motives and ... actions infested with them" and she goes so far as to claim that "First Amendment law is best understood and most readily explained as a kind of motive-hunting."

Kagan's name was also on a brief, United States V. Stevens, dug up by the Washington Examiner, stating: "Whether a given category of speech enjoys First Amendment protection depends upon a categorical balancing of the value of the speech against its societal costs."
If the government doesn't like what you say, Elena Kagan believes it is the duty of courts to tell you to shut up. If some pantywaist is offended by what you say, Elena Kagan believes your words can be "disappeared".
WyBlog -- Elena Kagan's America: some speech can be "disappeared"
Brandenburg v. Ohio - Wikipedia


Kagan, a Democrat, nominated for the Court by another Democrat.
None of whom believe in the Constitution or in free speech.
 
If you cared about the country you wouldn't vote for either party.


In a constellation of your stupid observations, this one is way up near the top.

But, please.....take you own advice.

I will be. After the debates I have to imagine many more are considering the other parties.


"Imagine" is the operative term in most of your posts......you really should try to incorporate more 'thinking.'

It's hardly a stretch to understand that a large number of people saw the debate as a national embarrassment.
 
Religious organizations are tax exempt thus the constitutional argument they cannot comment on politics, but they do and abortion has been the tool that brought them into politics. The irony here they care more for the unborn than the living child, suppose they were taxed and that money actually contributed to helping living children and women in tough situations? Caged children don't matter either, demonstrating the hypocrisy of religion. But seriously medicare, medicaid, social security, minimum wage, have done more good for Americans than all the hallelujahs combined and guess who did them. Democrats. Yep.

Proud boys and Cohen on Trump and family. For the thoughtful reader.

Trump's appeal is hate and let's hope religious and other American institutions call him out and vote him out. He is an embarrassment. Insecure men like Trump and the proud boys are threats to decency. Labels come to stand for substance.

"The Proud Boys is a far-right neo-fascist male-only organization that promotes and engages in political violence. It is based in the United States and has a presence in Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom."


Cohen on Trump family.




The irony too is the dishonesty of the Trump family and business was covered in book below long ago but Americans don't read sadly.


the dishonesty of BEIJING joes family--my son was not, my son did not, all lies. his little boy was a drug addict, a dishonarable discharge from the service---3.5 million from moscow mayors wife is TRUTH--you must be in denial about that. but hey, just keep knocking TRUMP to cover up the filth coming from BEIJING joes side...you can deny the TRUTH all you want, its not going to change the TRUTH
 
Religious organizations are tax exempt thus the constitutional argument they cannot comment on politics, but they do and abortion has been the tool that brought them into politics. The irony here they care more for the unborn than the living child, suppose they were taxed and that money actually contributed to helping living children and women in tough situations? Caged children don't matter either, demonstrating the hypocrisy of religion. But seriously medicare, medicaid, social security, minimum wage, have done more good for Americans than all the hallelujahs combined and guess who did them. Democrats. Yep.

A religious entity most certainly can speak on politics. What they are not supposed to do is come out and support a particular candidate.

A church most certainly can state that abortion is wrong. What they are not supposed to do is say "Abortion is wrong so vote for Candidate A".

Are there some that do this? There are. I absolutely hate what Franklin Graham is doing. To me it completely negates the message he should be promoting for many.

I condemn those who claim to be pro-life but ignore the problems people face after the birth all the time but your generalizations are just that. There are many who care after the child has been born.

Latrobe Street Mission
 
If you cared about the country you wouldn't vote for either party.


In a constellation of your stupid observations, this one is way up near the top.

But, please.....take you own advice.

I will be. After the debates I have to imagine many more are considering the other parties.


"Imagine" is the operative term in most of your posts......you really should try to incorporate more 'thinking.'

It's hardly a stretch to understand that a large number of people saw the debate as a national embarrassment.


I understand your sophomoric attempt to change the subject, but, it won't be the case.

Free speech and it's opponent, the Democrat Party, is the topic you've voluntarily subscribed to.

You're free to simply take your embarrassment and move on.
 
Religious organizations are tax exempt thus the constitutional argument they cannot comment on politics, but they do and abortion has been the tool that brought them into politics. The irony here they care more for the unborn than the living child, suppose they were taxed and that money actually contributed to helping living children and women in tough situations? Caged children don't matter either, demonstrating the hypocrisy of religion. But seriously medicare, medicaid, social security, minimum wage, have done more good for Americans than all the hallelujahs combined and guess who did them. Democrats. Yep.

A religious entity most certainly can speak on politics. What they are not supposed to do is come out and support a particular candidate.

A church most certainly can state that abortion is wrong. What they are not supposed to do is say "Abortion is wrong so vote for Candidate A".

Are there some that do this? There are. I absolutely hate what Franklin Graham is doing. To me it completely negates the message he should be promoting for many.

I condemn those who claim to be pro-life but ignore the problems people face after the birth all the time but your generalizations are just that. There are many who care after the child has been born.

Latrobe Street Mission


"A religious entity most certainly can speak on politics. What they are not supposed to do is come out and support a particular candidate."


Why not?


If a school teacher can, why not another American?




Possibly you've a distant association with the Constitution....
Congress shall make no lawabridging the freedom of speech,
 
I was going to say obviously the Republican Party is the party of the rich because they elected a billionaire, but after this last week, I guess I won’t.
 

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