Who qualifies as a refugee within the middle east conflict.

[Roudy]

Yes, that doesn't add up to 1.3 million, and many of them were airlifted to Israel to save them from Muslim animals. Now what about their restitution, the properties and assets that were seized, the ones that were killed and tortured? Hundreds if not thousands of years living as Jews in these "Arab" lands bre the catastrophe of Islam arrived. Any chance the Nazi Palestinian Mufti's Arab Muslim brethren offspring will provide anything for this ethnic cleansing and genocide of Jews that occured by his orders? Eh, never mind, Muslims are still doing it to Jews, Christians, Kurds, Bahaiis, Zoroastrianism, etc. all over the Middle East. But hey let's just focus on those evil Jooooos, shall we? LOL

There are plenty of other articles and they add up to 1.3 million. You are just a liar that spends his time, 24/7 demonizing Muslims. There was no ethnic cleansing, it was a Zionist plan to populate Israel, as mentioned in several of the articles I posted. There are hundreds of other articles in the JTA website.

Actually there was ethnic cleansing and more. About 1.3 million Jews were ethnically cleansed from lands they had been living in for hundreds if not thousands of years. Denying it is equivalent to denying the holocaust. Which doesn't suprise us, coming from you.

If there was any ethnic cleansing it was on the part of the Israeli state which the JTA confirms that their plan was to populate Israel with Jews livening in Arab countries. The JTA denies your bullshit. You are here demonizing Christians and Muslims 24/7 and when you are presented with facts from Jewish news organizations you deny the facts. You are a lying piece of crap.

Bull. There are hundreds of thousands of Jews from Arab nations (and their decedents) living all over the world. The Muslim barbarism has not been forgotten. You are just an ignorant, mentally ill Antisemite.

Remembering Farhud Day and the Arab Pogroms

Farhud in an Arabic dialect means violent dispossession. The words I spoke that gripped the woman listening described in detail how the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, leader of the Arab community in Mandate Palestine, organized a blood-curdling massacre by Nazi-allied Arabs against Baghdad’s peaceful Jewish community on June 1-2, 1941.The ensuing mass rape, beheading, murder, burning, and looting spree was the first step in a process that throughout the Arab world effectively ended 2,600 years of Jewish existence in those lands. Ultimately, some 850,000 to 900,000 Jews were systemically pauperized and made stateless in a coordinated forced exodus from the Arab world.

Many Sephardic Jews consider the 1941 Farhud, which murdered and maimed hundreds, to be their Kristallnacht.

And the author is:

Edwin Black is the author of IBM and the Holocaust, and The Farhud — Roots of the Arab-Nazi Alliance in the Holocaust. He began the initiative to proclaim International Farhud Day at the United Nations.

Grow up.

I provide contemporaneous news articles from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, and you provide a link to a Zionist bozo.

Jewish telegraphic agency my ass. More cut and paste meaningless extractions. It did happen, you holocaust denying antisemtic freak.

The Persecution Of Jews In Iraq

In a two-day period Arab mobs went on a rampage in Baghdad and other cities in Iraq. At least 150 Jews were killed and more than 2,000 injured; some 900 Jewish homes were destroyed and looted; and hundreds of Jewish-owned shops were robbed and destroyed.


My paternal grandfather with his sons in the late 1950s. (Photo courtesy of Cohen family)
My older family members recall witnessing how Iraqi soldiers pulled small children away from their parents and ripped the arms off young girls to steal their bracelets; pregnant women were raped and their stomachs cut open. My grandfather hid his baby brother underneath his t-shirt when the violence began and ran home. My great-grandfather saved his entire family during the riots that broke out in Baghdad by claiming to be a Muslim when Iraqi troops came into their home with the intent of looting, raping, and killing.

Eventually, when being a Jew was practically criminalized, my father's family escaped to Israel with only the clothes on their backs—their belongings were confiscated—leaving behind everything that they knew.

 

[montelatici]

Annenberg Media Center. Sheesh. Can't you ever post anything from a site that isn't Zionist? I will believe contemporaneous news stories from the JTA.

 

[Roudy]

Annenberg Media Center. Sheesh. Can't you ever post anything from a site that isn't Zionist? I will believe contemporaneous news stories from the JTA.

You are truly pathetic you know that? It's sad how someone could be so engulfed with hatred towards Jews that he enagages in the denial of historical facts of an ethnic cleansing that not even Arabs deny.

Iraqi Jews

In an article that appeared in the New York Times on May 16, 1948, it was reported that: “In Iraq no Jew is permitted to leave the country unless he deposits £5,000 ($20,000) with the Government to guarantee his return. No foreign Jew is allowed to enter Iraq even in transit.”

Law No. 1 of 1950, entitled “Supplement to Ordinance Cancelling Iraqi Nationality,” in fact deprived Jews of their Iraqi nationality. Section 1 stipulated that “the Council of Ministers may cancel the Iraqi nationality of the Iraqi Jew who willingly desires to leave Iraq…” (official Iraqi English translation). [1]

Law No. 5 of 1951 entitled “ A law for the Supervision and Administration of the Property of Jews who have Forfeited Iraqi Nationality” also deprived them of their property. Section 2(a) “freezes” Jewish property. [2]

There were a series of laws that subsequently expanded on the confiscation of assets and property of Jews who “forfeited Iraqi nationality”. These included Law No. 12 of 1951 16 and the attached Law No. 64 of 1967 (relating to ownership of shares in commercial companies) and Law No. 10 of 1968 (related to banking restrictions)

 

[Roudy]

Arab Muslim animals doing what they do best. And it is still going on today.

History of Iraqi Jews is warning to Christians | Letters

History of Iraqi Jews is warning to Christians

The decline in the number of Christians in Iraq is indeed disturbing (Loose canon, 25 March). It is part of a wider decline in the Middle East, where numbers have dwindled from 20% of the population 100 years ago to 5% today.

The Jewish experience in Iraq also reflects a story of a once flourishing community which has been persecuted to near extinction. Jews first went there 2,700 years ago, and while the community experienced highs and lows over centuries of Muslim rule, the population grew steadily. Jews accounted for one-third of Baghdad’s population by the time of the first world war, and by 1936, official figures showed there to be 120,000 in the country.

However, the period between the world wars, when the British mandate ended, marked the start of terrible antisemitic persecution in Iraq. Thousands of Jews fled: 104,000 emigrated between 1949 and 1951.

The history of the Jews in Iraq is a warning, if any were needed, of the unfolding tragedy facing the Christian community there today.

 

[montelatici]

Yes, and the problems began for Christians in the Middle East when the European Jews evicted the Palestinian Christians from Palestine.

 

[Roudy]

Hah? Most of the Middle East including Turkey were Christian lands. You're blaming Jews for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Christians now?

Are the Jews responsible for the genocide of 1.5 million Armenian Christians at the hands of the Ottomans which the Palestinian Nazi mufti participated in?

Take your meds.

 

[montelatici]

Yes, they were. And, there were plenty of Christians living in the Ottoman Empire as well.

The arrival of European Zionists as colonists from Europe embittered the Arabs who blamed European Christians for allowing it to happen.

 

[Roudy]

So you again lied when you said that the Jews were the cause of the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by The invading Muslims in the Middle East.

Next? Oh I forgot...

"Arrival of the European Zionists" blah blah blah. They arrived because they wanted to join their brethern who had kept a presence and had been arriving in large numbers for the last 700 years of Ottoman rule. They also came because those that conquered the land after the Ottomans lost after WWI, the British, with the permission of the UN, asked them to. The invading Arabs had no say.

 

[montelatici]

So you again lied when you said that the Jews were the cause of the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by The invading Muslims in the Middle East.

Next? Oh I forgot...

"Arrival of the European Zionists" blah blah blah. They arrived because they wanted to join their brethern who had kept a presence and had been arriving in large numbers for the last 700 years of Ottoman rule. They also came because those that conquered the land after the Ottomans lost after WWI, the British, with the permission of the UN, asked them to. The invading Arabs had no say.

The Ottomans ousted the Mameluks, not Arabian rulers. And the native Palestinians welcomed the Ottomans as the Mameluks were not appreciated as rulers. The Mameluks ousted the the Kurdish rulers the Ayubids (Saladin remember). And Saladin ousted the Christian Crusader rulers. There were no invading Arabian rulers left since the Crusaders ruled. Don't know what kind of history you were taught.

 

[Roudy]

So you again lied when you said that the Jews were the cause of the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by The invading Muslims in the Middle East.

Next? Oh I forgot...

"Arrival of the European Zionists" blah blah blah. They arrived because they wanted to join their brethern who had kept a presence and had been arriving in large numbers for the last 700 years of Ottoman rule. They also came because those that conquered the land after the Ottomans lost after WWI, the British, with the permission of the UN, asked them to. The invading Arabs had no say.

The Ottomans ousted the Mameluks, not Arabian rulers. And the native Palestinians welcomed the Ottomans as the Mameluks were not appreciated as rulers. The Mameluks ousted the the Kurdish rulers the Ayubids (Saladin remember). And Saladin ousted the Christian Crusader rulers. There were no invading Arabian rulers left since the Crusaders ruled. Don't know what kind of history you were taught.

The Mamelukes were an Arab Muslim dynasty, ignoramus. Israel / Jerusalem, the holy land of the Jews, has been invaded and fought over by Muslims and Christians for over 2500 years.

 

[Sally]

Hah? Most of the Middle East including Turkey were Christian lands. You're blaming Jews for the ethnic cleansing and genocide of Christians now?

Are the Jews responsible for the genocide of 1.5 million Armenian Christians at the hands of the Ottomans which the Palestinian Nazi mufti participated in?

Take your meds.

Out here in the Los Angeles area, there is the largest popu8lation of Armenians outside of Armenia. The other day they came out in the thousands and thousands to commemorate the 101th Anniversary of what the Turks did to them. It is still a dangerous life for the Armenians who are living in Turkey now according to their Armenian relatives living here.

Maybe Monte and his musical chair partner would like to sing........

1. 
   Istanbul (Not Constantinople)
   They Might Be Giants
   Istanbul was Constantinople
   Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople
   Been a long time gone, Constantinople
   Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
   Every gal in Constantinople
   Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople
   So if you've a date in Constantinople
   She'll be waiting in Istanbul
   Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
   Why they changed it I can't say
   People just liked it better that way
   So take me back to Constantinople
   No, you can't go back to Constantinople
   Been a long time gone, Constantinople
   Why did Constantinople get the works?
   That's nobody's business but the Turks
   Istanbul, Istanbul
   Istanbul, Istanbul
   Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
   Why they changed it I can't say
   People just liked it better that way
   Istanbul was Constantinople
   Now it's… Full lyrics on Google Play

 

[Sally]

Because a specific action of the U.N. caused the eviction of the Palestinians from their homeland, the U.N. set up a separate regime for the Palestinian refugees administered by UNRWA.

Also because this is the only case in which an action of the U.N. created the specific refugee problem, the definition of the Palestinian refugee is different from refugees under UNHCR.

Basically, a Palestinian refugee is any person whose "normal place of residence was Palestine during the period 1 June 1946 to 15 May 1948 and who lost both home and means of livelihood as a result of the 1948 conflict."

Palestine refugees are persons who fulfill the above definition and descendants of fathers fulfilling the definition.

What a shame that the Islamist nations which forced Arab-Moslem squatters aside as part of their hoped-for genocide of the Jewish people have denied any right of return for their fellow islamists.

They also forgot that Arab Muslims animals expelled over 1.3 million Jews at the same time. They never bring up these Jews that were ethnically cleansed, their properties and assets seized simply because they were Jews.

When you take a look at the contemporaneous news reports from the premier Jewish news source, the JTA, your characterization of events is as usual, Zionist propaganda and bullshit. Don't go posting Wiki and other Hasbara bullshit that attempts to contradict what actually happened as reported by the people that were there. . The news reports below from the Jewish Telegraphic Agency paint a very different picture, Mr. Propaganda. Reading the reports it is obvious that the transfer of Jews from Arab countries was part of an established plan to populate Israel, as it is stated in black and white in some of the articles. There was no ethnic cleansing liar.


Special Institutes Set Up in Israel to Aid in Adjustment of North African Jews
July 19, 1949




PARIS (Jul. 18)

The Israeli Government and the Jewish Agency have set up special institutes to aid Jewish immigrants from North Africa to adjust themselves to life in the Jewish state, it was reported here by Eliahu Eliashar, Sephardic member of the Knesset and leader of the Sephardic Jews in Jerusalem.


Special Institutes Set Up in Israel to Aid in Adjustment of North African Jews




Egypt Releases Fifty Prominent Jews from Internment; Returns Confiscated Property
July 31, 1949




NEW YORK (Jul. 29)

Fifty prominent Egyptian Jews, who were interned for “security” reasons by the Egyptian Government May, 1948, when the new state of Israel was constituted, were released and given permission to immigrate to Israel, according to a cable received today by the American Jewish Committee.


Egypt Releases Fifty Prominent Jews from Internment; Returns Confiscated Property



260 North African Jews Arrive in Israel; Homes Ready
March 16, 1955




TEL AVIV (Mar. 15)

Some 260 immigrants from North Africa arrived in Israel today. They were immediately moved to homes prepared for them in new villages on the Judean Piain and in the Meggido region.


260 North African Jews Arrive in Israel; Homes Ready



1,000 Jews Emigrate from North Africa to Israel in One Week
February 24, 1955




HAIFA (Feb. 23)

A party of 791 North African Jews arrived at this port last night, bringing to over 1,000 the number who arrived in the past week. Only 33 of these came from any place other than North Africa; they were from Hungary.

Most of the North African immigrants were immediately dispersed among settlements prepared for them in the Negev, Galilee and Judean plains.


1,000 Jews Emigrate from North Africa to Israel in One Week



Jews of 33 Communities in North Africa to Be Moved to Israel
February 17, 1955




JERUSALEM (Feb. 16)


The imminent liquidation of 33 Jewish communities in North African villages in the Atlas Mountains through immigration to Israel, was announced here today by the Jewish Agency.


Jews of 33 Communities in North Africa to Be Moved to Israel



996 Jews from North Africa Arrive in Israel; Sent to Villages
February 8, 1955




TEL AVIV (Feb. 7)

A party of 996 North African Jews, including a large number of children and young people, arrived in Israel today aboard the S.S. Jerusalem. They were immediately sent to villages prepared for them in Galilee, the Jerusalem corridor and the new Lachish development area southwest of Jerusalem.


996 Jews from North Africa Arrive in Israel; Sent to Villages



J. D. C. Reaches Pact on Training of Jewish Children in North Africa
February 2, 1955



PARIS (Feb. 1)

Financial participation by the Joint Distribution Committee in a program of preliminary training given North African Jewish boys and girls in France before they leave for Israel, was announced here today by Moses Beckelman, director of activities in Europe.

The agreement was reached with the Youth Aliyah movement, which will bring these North African children to the Herbert H. Lehman home at Tambous, near Montpelier in Southern France, where they will receive a minimum of three months instruction in Hebrew, Israel geography and history, and agriculture. Afterwards they will be taken to Israel where they will be assigned to Youth Aliyah institutions and agricultural settlements.



J. D. C. Reaches Pact on Training of Jewish Children in North Africa



50,000 Jews from North Africa Expected in Israel During 1955
February 2, 1955




NEW YORK (Feb. 1)

Immigration to Israel from North Africa on a scale reminiscent of the mass exodus of Jews from the displaced persons camps of Europe in the years immediately following the establishment of Israel in 1948, has already started and about 50,00 Jews will reach the Jewish State by the end of 1955


The present mass movement from North Africa “has been organized more systematically and more selectively, “Mrs. Halprin stressed, with approximately 90 percent of the newcomers ticketed for Israel’s agricultural settlements and farms before they ascend the gangplanks of Israel-bound ships. “The newcomers from North Africa are prepared to go into agricultural work and show no disposition to crowd into the country’s larger cities,” she said.



50,000 Jews from North Africa Expected in Israel During 1955



Violence in No Africa Not Aimed at Jews As Such, Engel Reports
January 28, 1955




NEW YORK (Jan. 27)

“At the present time, there is no evidence that violence which is taking place in various parts of North Africa is directed against Jews or any other religious group, as such,” Irving M. Engel, president of the American Jewish Committee, reported today in connection with the opening here tomorrow of the AJC’s three-day annual meeting.


Violence in No Africa Not Aimed at Jews As Such, Engel Reports



Large Group of Immigrants Arrive in Israel from North Africa
January 27, 1955



TEL AVIV (Jan. 26)

A party of 945 immigrants from North Africa arrived in Israel today and were immediately moved out to settlements which had been prepared for them, in line with the Jewish Agency’s new colonization policy. Some 300 were sent to new homes in the Lachish area, on the Judean plateau, and the remainder were sent to border colonies in the north.


Large Group of Immigrants Arrive in Israel from North Africa

Yes, that doesn't add up to 1.3 million, and many of them were airlifted to Israel to save them from Muslim animals. Now what about their restitution, the properties and assets that were seized, the ones that were killed and tortured? Hundreds if not thousands of years living as Jews in these "Arab" lands bre the catastrophe of Islam arrived. Any chance the Nazi Palestinian Mufti's Arab Muslim brethren offspring will provide anything for this ethnic cleansing and genocide of Jews that occured by his orders? Eh, never mind, Muslims are still doing it to Jews, Christians, Kurds, Bahaiis, Zoroastrianism, etc. all over the Middle East. But hey let's just focus on those evil Jooooos, shall we? LOL

I don't know why posters have a problem with Israel taking in Jews from other lands when Europe and countries in the Western Hemisphere are taking people in from all over the world.

Most of the people who were actually refugees from the country that is now Israel are either dead or so old that they are either living with their children or are in a nursing home. Isn't it strange that after World War II, there were millions of displaced persons, and as time went by they didn't consider themselves as refugees but got on with their lives. And their children, born in a new location, certainly didn't consider themselves refugees from the country their family came from.

Since countries like Qatar and Saudi Arabia bring in thousands and thousands of foreign workers, would it be possible for them to instead bring in those so-called Palestinians to work there instead and to eventually give them citizenship just like the Germans eventually gave their Turkish workers citizenship?