Who is to Blame for the Government Shutdown?

[g5000]

Democrats voted to fund a Wall before they voted against it. What do you think?

Dems never voted to fund a wall. A fence in certain "areas" is not a wall.

Idiot....
Opinion | Democrats were for a wall before they were against it

I know youre an idiot. No need to announce yourself. You think an opinion piece is a substitute for the facts?

WTF, did you just fall off the truck?
Media ignore Democrats' full flip-flop on border wall - WND - WND

No they don't.

"That’s a mischaracterization of the barrier that won Democratic support 13 years ago.

Just over half of Democrats in the Senate voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President George W. Bush, including then-Sens. Barack Obama, Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton. Most Democrats in the House voted against it, including Rep. Nancy Pelosi.

The law authorized a fence along about 700 miles of the border between the U.S.-Mexico border. By 2015, U.S. Customs and Border Protection had constructed 654 miles of fencing, the Government Accountability Office reported.

The fence was different from the wall Trump promised to build on the campaign trail, ...."

Did Democrats reverse border wall position after Trump?

I've already explained this to the tards. The Democrats never supported a 2,000 mile long wall. They voted for 700 miles, and that was built. Ancient history.

 

[Asclepias]

Dems never voted to fund a wall. A fence in certain "areas" is not a wall.

Idiot....
Opinion | Democrats were for a wall before they were against it

I know youre an idiot. No need to announce yourself. You think an opinion piece is a substitute for the facts?

WTF, did you just fall off the truck?
Media ignore Democrats' full flip-flop on border wall - WND - WND

Evidently you fell off a turnip wagon. Again a fence is not a wall.

Fact Sheet: The Secure Fence Act of 2006

By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure. The Secure Fence Act:

• Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
• Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
• Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.

Great, and what is your interpretation of Physical Barriers and authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing, ya fricken dimwit.

My interpretation is that its not a wall like you claimed you fucking idiot.

 

[g5000]

Wide open southern border...

Nowhere near as wide open as our northern border.

Lol
We don’t have diseased illegal aliens crossing freely in droves the northern border...

Diseased. Ah. Is that how you got in?

 

[Thinker101]

Idiot....
Opinion | Democrats were for a wall before they were against it

I know youre an idiot. No need to announce yourself. You think an opinion piece is a substitute for the facts?

WTF, did you just fall off the truck?
Media ignore Democrats' full flip-flop on border wall - WND - WND

Evidently you fell off a turnip wagon. Again a fence is not a wall.

Fact Sheet: The Secure Fence Act of 2006

By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure. The Secure Fence Act:

• Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
• Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
• Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.

Great, and what is your interpretation of Physical Barriers and authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing, ya fricken dimwit.

My interpretation is that its not a wall like you claimed you fucking idiot.

Don't really care if you call it a wall or a fence, ya fucking dimwit.

 

[Asclepias]

I know youre an idiot. No need to announce yourself. You think an opinion piece is a substitute for the facts?

WTF, did you just fall off the truck?
Media ignore Democrats' full flip-flop on border wall - WND - WND

Evidently you fell off a turnip wagon. Again a fence is not a wall.

Fact Sheet: The Secure Fence Act of 2006

By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure. The Secure Fence Act:

• Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
• Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
• Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.

Great, and what is your interpretation of Physical Barriers and authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing, ya fricken dimwit.

My interpretation is that its not a wall like you claimed you fucking idiot.

Don't really care if you call it a wall or a fence, ya fucking dimwit.

I didnt ask you to care. I just pointed out that you are a liar if you claim Dems voted for a 30ft concrete wall. Its even called the fencing act. How fucking stupid do you have to be not to understand the difference?

 

[BluesLegend]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

The above post is brought to you by the Biddable Rubes of America. Their symbol is the Lemming, in full flight off the cliff of reality.

The Democrats voted to pass the CR, and to spend a few weeks to have a real debate on how to secure our borders. That is reality, and the bill had been passed in the senate previously.

As usual the truth is alien** to trump and his trumpanzees.

**alien, strange and not familiar

Own it you gutless cowards.

 

[BluesLegend]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

Sure, by continually voting to fund the govt.

And by funding government you mean funding border security to stop Americans from being killed by illegals, oh wait?

 

[BluesLegend]

A wall and border security are not the same thing.

^^^

 

[BluesLegend]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

Thats not what Drumpf claimed.

Then Dem's refused to even discuss border security and took ownership of the shutdown, try to keep up.

Moron. Have you missed the talking point which claimed that the Dems have voted in favor of barriers in the past? The Dems have always been willing to discuss border security.

Pelosi just told Trump she will approve no money for barriers even if he ends the government shutdown. You have egg on your face dummy.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Democrats own 100% of the government shutdown.

Thats not what Drumpf claimed.

Then Dem's refused to even discuss border security and took ownership of the shutdown, try to keep up.

Moron. Have you missed the talking point which claimed that the Dems have voted in favor of barriers in the past? The Dems have always been willing to discuss border security.

Pelosi just told Trump she will approve no money for barriers even if he ends the government shutdown. You have egg on your face dummy.

Nope. You have a credibility problem. The house approved the same bill that the Senate UNANIMOUSLY approved in December. It included funds for barrier renovation.

Fuck your wall.

 

[oreo]

Dems never voted to fund a wall. A fence in certain "areas" is not a wall.

Idiot....
Opinion | Democrats were for a wall before they were against it

I know youre an idiot. No need to announce yourself. You think an opinion piece is a substitute for the facts?

WTF, did you just fall off the truck?
Media ignore Democrats' full flip-flop on border wall - WND - WND

Evidently you fell off a turnip wagon. Again a fence is not a wall.

Fact Sheet: The Secure Fence Act of 2006

By Making Wise Use Of Physical Barriers And Deploying 21st Century Technology, We Can Help Our Border Patrol Agents Do Their Job And Make Our Border More Secure. The Secure Fence Act:

• Authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing along our Southern border;
• Authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting to help prevent people from entering our country illegally;
• Authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce our infrastructure at the border.

Great, and what is your interpretation of Physical Barriers and authorizes the construction of hundreds of miles of additional fencing, ya fricken dimwit.

They don't work, that's why Republican congressman Hurd who's district is 840 miles of the border wants to go with high tech, which TRUMP is saying NO too. Go to this link to read about it.
Who is to Blame for the Government Shutdown?

They have discovered 240 of these in the San Diego region alone.

Border patrol agent explores newly discovered US-Mexico drug tunnel with GoPro camera

Now you'll note the date of the FOX NEWS article on the above is April 2016, while they're still trying to shove Trump's wall down your throats.

A 2-1/2 minute video explains it all.

 

[JimH52]

Geeesshhh! All the trumpettes living here and trump is still to blame!

Everyday he will die more politically...

 

[candycorn]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

Trump took responsibility on 12/11.

 

[JimH52]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

I cannot vote because you do not have an "all of the above".

Both sides are playing a stupid game with the lives of 800,000 people living without a paycheck.

Trump had two years of full control of both the house and the senate to work on his wall and he never pushed very hard for it...but as soon as the Dems win the House it is the only thing that matters.

The Dems will not even give in on the fence they supported for 20 years, so they too are fucking over those people.

And it makes trump "Proud" to see the shutdown..

 

[WillowTree]

Drumpf already claimed ownership of the shutdown and did so on national TV.

That was not the question!

 

[WillowTree]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

Trump took responsibility on 12/11.

That was not the question.

 

[WillowTree]

Right now it is Mitch who is stopping the Senate from voting on the same bill it passed in December. Remember when He had a deal? Well before Faux News whispered sweet nothings into Trumpybear's ear.

Shades of Harry Fucking Reid!

 

[JimH52]

Donald Trump wants a wall. Nancy Pelosi doesn't want to give him one. Is this a sincere policy difference or just political gamesmanship?

Trump took responsibility on 12/11.

That was not the question.

But it is a Fact....

 

[JimH52]

Right now it is Mitch who is stopping the Senate from voting on the same bill it passed in December. Remember when He had a deal? Well before Faux News whispered sweet nothings into Trumpybear's ear.

Shades of Harry Fucking Reid!

Reid never had a Moron as president....

 

[WillowTree]

This is another of those threads where the question in the title and the question in the poll are different questions!

My answer! Trump did own the shutdown. Pelosi now owns it by refusing to negotiate the wall!