Who Is The Worst President Since WWII?

[healthmyths]

1) Jimmy Carter - made Americans feel worse about America. No one likes a weakling
2) George Bush, Jr. - military adventures in the Middle East?
3) Barak Obama - had a tremendous handicap with a divided, unworkable congress, but even so has underperformed.

Nixon gets honorable mention for Watergate, but was not bad otherwise.

Clinton should get high marks.

Bush "military" adventures? Saved if Saddam hadn't been removed, a minimum of one million children from starvation.
Due to ignorant people the USA pulled out of Iraq unlike what still have 140,000 troops after nearly 70 year in Europe/Asia.
"Military adventures CALLED for by these Democrats...
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.



MONDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2005
SOME SOLDIER'S MOM: MSM Anti-war Bias - What Milbloggers Have Been Saying All Along!

TV’s Bad News Brigade ABC, CBS and NBC’s Defeatist Coverage of the War in Iraq
This conclusion is based on a Media Research Center study of broadcast network news coverage of the Iraq war so far this year. MRC analysts reviewed all 1,388 Iraq stories broadcast on ABC’s World News Tonight, the CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News from January 1 through September 30. (In 2006, the MRC will release a similar analysis of cable news coverage of Iraq.) Among the key findings:

* Network coverage has been overwhelmingly pessimistic. More than half of all stories (848, or 61%) focused on negative topics or presented a pessimistic analysis of the situation, four times as many as featured U.S. or Iraqi achievements or offered an optimistic assessment (just 211 stories, or 15%).

* News about the war has grown increasingly negative. In January and February, about a fifth of all network stories (21%) struck a hopeful note, while just over half presented a negative slant on the situation. By August and September, positive stories had fallen to a measly seven percent and the percentage of bad news stories swelled to 73 percent of all Iraq news, a ten-to-one disparity.

* Terrorist attacks are the centerpiece of TV’s war news. Two out of every five network evening news stories (564) featured car bombings, assassinations, kidnappings or other attacks launched by the terrorists against the Iraqi people or coalition forces, more than any other topic.

* Even coverage of the Iraqi political process has been negative. More stories (124) focused on shortcomings in Iraq’s political process — the danger of bloodshed during the January elections, political infighting among politicians, and fears that the new Iraqi constitution might spur more civil strife —
than found optimism in the Iraqi people’s historic march to democracy (92 stories).

One-third of those optimistic stories (32) appeared on just two nights — January 30 and 31, just after Iraq’s first successful elections.

* Few stories focused on the heroism or generous actions of American soldiers.
In contrast, 79 stories focused on allegations of combat mistakes or outright misconduct on the part of U.S. military personnel.

People... do you understand that the MSM and the Democrats WANTED Iraq to fail and "reported" and praised successes of the terrorists while telling the world and Americans our troops were the bad guys!
When our own representatives help the terrorists by saying:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

and when these statements are made most normal intelligent people would say..."geez doesn't this just help the terrorists in killing more troops"?
FACT:LOOK at this Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT"

asked: "Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?

The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. (wouldn't you conclude the next president accusing the US military of methodically and systematically air raiding villages killing civilians.. dissent???) We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent

"military adventures" Remember 9/11/! Remember anthrax attacks 11 americans murdered.
"Military adventures"???
NOW historians WILL with perspective recognize GWB as ONE of the greatest Presidents BECAUSE FACTS no can
dispute the following EVENTS Bush nor ANY President could ever controlled. More importantly historians will also recognize NO other president in history EVER EVER had any events of their magnitude occur in the presidency. NONE.
1)Dot.com bust started recession and lost $5 trillion along with 300,000 jobs.
2) 9/11 most devastating attack on US soil EVER! $1 trillion in monetary,3,000 lives and hundreds of thousands of jobs.
3) WORST hurricane SEASONS not just hurricanes BUT SEASON with
4) And of the 10 Costliest Catastrophes..

SOURCE: Kiplinger - Interstitial
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

So unlike most of you I provided the FACTS as to why GWB will be considered one of greatest Presidents.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So, those who consider the poll accurate agree that Bill Clinton was a better president than every Republican since WWII other than Reagan?

lol

 

[NYcarbineer]

1) Jimmy Carter - made Americans feel worse about America. No one likes a weakling
2) George Bush, Jr. - military adventures in the Middle East?
3) Barak Obama - had a tremendous handicap with a divided, unworkable congress, but even so has underperformed.

Nixon gets honorable mention for Watergate, but was not bad otherwise.

Clinton should get high marks.

Bush "military" adventures? Saved if Saddam hadn't been removed, a minimum of one million children from starvation.
Due to ignorant people the USA pulled out of Iraq unlike what still have 140,000 troops after nearly 70 year in Europe/Asia.
"Military adventures CALLED for by these Democrats...
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger Clinton Ntl. Secur. Advr 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998 WHERE'D SHE GET THIS INFORMATION BEFORE BUSH?
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999
"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"..give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs..threat our security"..Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002
"Without a question, we need to disarm Saddam. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime .... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction .... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...."Kerry , Jan. 23. 2003.



MONDAY, OCTOBER 17, 2005
SOME SOLDIER'S MOM: MSM Anti-war Bias - What Milbloggers Have Been Saying All Along!

TV’s Bad News Brigade ABC, CBS and NBC’s Defeatist Coverage of the War in Iraq
This conclusion is based on a Media Research Center study of broadcast network news coverage of the Iraq war so far this year. MRC analysts reviewed all 1,388 Iraq stories broadcast on ABC’s World News Tonight, the CBS Evening News and NBC Nightly News from January 1 through September 30. (In 2006, the MRC will release a similar analysis of cable news coverage of Iraq.) Among the key findings:

* Network coverage has been overwhelmingly pessimistic. More than half of all stories (848, or 61%) focused on negative topics or presented a pessimistic analysis of the situation, four times as many as featured U.S. or Iraqi achievements or offered an optimistic assessment (just 211 stories, or 15%).

* News about the war has grown increasingly negative. In January and February, about a fifth of all network stories (21%) struck a hopeful note, while just over half presented a negative slant on the situation. By August and September, positive stories had fallen to a measly seven percent and the percentage of bad news stories swelled to 73 percent of all Iraq news, a ten-to-one disparity.

* Terrorist attacks are the centerpiece of TV’s war news. Two out of every five network evening news stories (564) featured car bombings, assassinations, kidnappings or other attacks launched by the terrorists against the Iraqi people or coalition forces, more than any other topic.

* Even coverage of the Iraqi political process has been negative. More stories (124) focused on shortcomings in Iraq’s political process — the danger of bloodshed during the January elections, political infighting among politicians, and fears that the new Iraqi constitution might spur more civil strife —
than found optimism in the Iraqi people’s historic march to democracy (92 stories).

One-third of those optimistic stories (32) appeared on just two nights — January 30 and 31, just after Iraq’s first successful elections.

* Few stories focused on the heroism or generous actions of American soldiers.
In contrast, 79 stories focused on allegations of combat mistakes or outright misconduct on the part of U.S. military personnel.

People... do you understand that the MSM and the Democrats WANTED Iraq to fail and "reported" and praised successes of the terrorists while telling the world and Americans our troops were the bad guys!
When our own representatives help the terrorists by saying:

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "The war is lost, the surge is not accomplishing anything "

U.S. Rep. John Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”

Senator Kerry (D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."

Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets"--action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senator Obama said "troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"

and when these statements are made most normal intelligent people would say..."geez doesn't this just help the terrorists in killing more troops"?
FACT:LOOK at this Harvard study found here THE "EMBOLDENMENT EFFECT"

asked: "Are insurgents in Iraq emboldened by voices in the news media expressing dissent or calling for troop withdrawals from Iraq?

The short answer is YES!!! according to Radha Iyengar, a Robert Wood Johnson Scholar in health policy
research at Harvard and Jonathan Monten of the Belfer Center at the university's Kennedy School of Government.
Are insurgents affected by information on US casualty sensitivity? Using data on attacks and variation in access to international news across Iraqi provinces, we identify an “emboldenment” effect by comparing the rate of insurgent attacks in areas with higher and lower access to information about U.S news after public statements critical of the war. (wouldn't you conclude the next president accusing the US military of methodically and systematically air raiding villages killing civilians.. dissent???) We find in periods after a spike in war-critical statements, insurgent attacks increases by 5-10 percent

"military adventures" Remember 9/11/! Remember anthrax attacks 11 americans murdered.
"Military adventures"???
NOW historians WILL with perspective recognize GWB as ONE of the greatest Presidents BECAUSE FACTS no can
dispute the following EVENTS Bush nor ANY President could ever controlled. More importantly historians will also recognize NO other president in history EVER EVER had any events of their magnitude occur in the presidency. NONE.
1)Dot.com bust started recession and lost $5 trillion along with 300,000 jobs.
2) 9/11 most devastating attack on US soil EVER! $1 trillion in monetary,3,000 lives and hundreds of thousands of jobs.
3) WORST hurricane SEASONS not just hurricanes BUT SEASON with
4) And of the 10 Costliest Catastrophes..

SOURCE: Kiplinger - Interstitial
10. Hurricane Rita 2005
8. Hurricane Ivan 2004
7. Hurricane Charley 2004
6. Hurricane Wilma 2005
5. Hurricane Ike 2008
1. Hurricane Katrina 2005...

So unlike most of you I provided the FACTS as to why GWB will be considered one of greatest Presidents.

Are you aware that on average less than 1% of the posters on a message board will actually read a post that long?

And that that percentage actually decreases the more often the same poster makes such lengthy repetitive posts?

 

[candycorn]

So, those who consider the poll accurate agree that Bill Clinton was a better president than every Republican since WWII other than Reagan?

lol

I think her blubber didn't allow her to see the rest of the screen.

 

[NYcarbineer]

So, those who consider the poll accurate agree that Bill Clinton was a better president than every Republican since WWII other than Reagan?

lol

I think her blubber didn't allow her to see the rest of the screen.

I think the RWnuts here have all decided that the parts of the poll they like are accurate, and the parts they don't must have been skewed by the supernatural forces of the liberal conspiracy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So, those who consider the poll accurate agree that Bill Clinton was a better president than every Republican since WWII other than Reagan?

lol

I think her blubber didn't allow her to see the rest of the screen.

You're still sulking just because I forced you to take down that ugly avi?

 

[PoliticalChic]

So, those who consider the poll accurate agree that Bill Clinton was a better president than every Republican since WWII other than Reagan?

lol

I think her blubber didn't allow her to see the rest of the screen.

I think the RWnuts here have all decided that the parts of the poll they like are accurate, and the parts they don't must have been skewed by the supernatural forces of the liberal conspiracy.

Here's the beauty of the poll:


a. He claimed, at his nomination, that this would be “the moment when the rise of the oceans would begin to slow and our planet begin to heal.” Barack Obama’s victory speech, June 3, 2008 The day will come when we look back at this display of hubris and narcissism, and the complicity of the public which found him more popular than Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King, and Mother Teresa (January 2009 poll found in ‘Christianity Today,’ February 22, 2009) as astounding.


b. David Cordero, 24, made the sculpture for his senior show after noticing all the attention Obama has received: "All of this is a response to what I've been witnessing and hearing, this idea that Barack is sort of a potential savior that might come and absolve the country of all its sins," Cordero said. Sculpture of Obama as Jesus causes stir - politics - Decision '08 - Barack Obama News - msnbc.com

c. Obama told the estimated crowd of 450 people that her husband is "the kind of president this country deserves. "
Obama closed by asking the crowd three times: "Are you in?"
She responded to her own question by saying: "Because I am so in."

"We have an amazing story to tell," she said. "This president has brought us out of the dark and into the light."
Source: Michelle Obama, Campaign rally. April 17, 2012.

d. In its November 22, 2010 issue, Obama has been shown by Newsweek on its cover page with multiple arms balancing several policy issues while raising his left leg mimicking the cosmic dance of the Hindu deity; considered a manifestation of Lord Shiva.
... Newsweek has named Obama "god of all things" on its cover.
SOURCE: Times of India (November 20, 2010).

e. Rabbi David Saperstein, reading from Psalms in English and Hebrew, noticed from the altar that the good men and women of the congregation that day, including the Bidens and other dignitaries, had not yet stood. Finally Bishop Vashti McKenzie of the African Methodist Church asked that everyone rise. At that moment Saperstein saw something from his angle of vision: "If I had seen it in a movie I would have groaned and said, 'Give me a break. That's so trite.'" A beam of morning light shown [sic] through the stained-glass windows and illuminated the president-elect's face. Several of the clergy and choir on the altar who also saw it marveled afterward about the presence of the Divine.
The Promise: President Obama, Year One, by Jonathan Alter.
(Simon & Schuster, May 2010 - p. 102)

f. He is provocative in insisting on an outstretched hand, where others only see animosity.
His tangible results in the short time that he has been active – are few and far between. His greatest results have been created with words and speeches – words that remain in the consciousness of their audience and have long-term effects.

He comes from humble beginnings and defends the weak and vulnerable, because he can identify himself with their conditions.

And no we are not thinking of Jesus Christ, whose birthday has just been celebrated - - but rather the President of the United States Barack Hussein Obama. [...]
Today, his historic Health Reform is being passed through the American Senate – a welfare policy breakthrough that several of his predecessors have been unable to manage. [...]

On the other hand, we have Jesus’ miracles that everyone still remembers, but which only benefitted a few.

Obama is, of course, greater than Jesus –
Source: "Obama greater than Jesus" Politiken Editorial [Denmark] December 29, 2009.



g. The White House released a photo of Obama with a halo around his head:
Photostream: Business and Pleasure in August | The White House



h. "Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD."

"In a way Obama is standing above the country, above the world. He's sort of GOD. He's going to bring all different sides together."

- Newsweek editor Evan Thomas



i. EAST POINT, Ga.—The day after Barack Obama was elected president, Larry Younginer knelt in front of the congregants at his suburban Atlanta church and offered a prayer of thanks.
"Lord, we have again come to you in prayer, and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois, a man called Barack to heal our land," said Younginer, a 62-year-old retired information systems worker at Coca Cola in Atlanta. "We pray that you will build a hedge around him that will protect him from those who would do him harm."
"No one saw him coming, and Christians believe God comes at us from strange angles and places we don't expect, like Jesus being born in a manger."
Some see God's will in Obama win, by Dahleen Glanton. Chicago Tribune November 29, 2008.
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?



j. Spike Lee said President Barack Obama is "not perfect," but that expectations for his first term"were way too high."
“He was a savior, black Jesus,” the actor-director told CNN's Don Lemon in an interview airing inits entirety Saturday. “Look, I don't care who it was. Expectations were way too high.”
Spike Lee: Barack Obama is 'not perfect' - POLITICO.com

k. Community Organizers pray to Obama:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_3884G2s6A]SHOCK DISCOVERY! - Gamaliel Foundation Community Organizers pray to President-Elect Barack Obama - YouTube[/ame]



l. 12/17/13 "On CNN’s Piers Morgan Live Tuesday, in a brief discussion about President Obama, Barbara Walters actually said, “We thought that he was going to be - I shouldn't say this at Christmastime, but - the next messiah”
Read more: Barbara Walters on Obama: ?We Thought He Was Going To Be The Next Messiah? | NewsBusters
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=De_1aIrkfXI]Barbara Walters On Obama: 'We Thought He Was Going To Be The Next Messiah' - YouTube[/ame]




And this....









Liberals: they should all be named Maple Syrup 'cause they're such saps.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I think her blubber didn't allow her to see the rest of the screen.

I think the RWnuts here have all decided that the parts of the poll they like are accurate, and the parts they don't must have been skewed by the supernatural forces of the liberal conspiracy.

Here's the beauty of the poll:

[interminable nonsense removed]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think the RWnuts here have all decided that the parts of the poll they like are accurate, and the parts they don't must have been skewed by the supernatural forces of the liberal conspiracy.

Here's the beauty of the poll:

[interminable nonsense removed]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's the beauty of the poll:

[interminable nonsense removed]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

I never thought he was.

One day you call Bill Clinton a rapist, the next you agree that it's accurate to consider him a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and both of the Bushes.

 

[Redfish]

I think the RWnuts here have all decided that the parts of the poll they like are accurate, and the parts they don't must have been skewed by the supernatural forces of the liberal conspiracy.

Here's the beauty of the poll:

[interminable nonsense removed]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

I suspect that most of those polled do not remember Ike, Nixon, or Bush 41.

Why do you ignore the part of it that says that obama is worse than all of them?

Clinton learned to work with the GOP and they got some things done. Obama is too stupid to realize that, or his ideology trumps whats best for the country.

 

[Redfish]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

I never thought he was.

One day you call Bill Clinton a rapist, the next you agree that it's accurate to consider him a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and both of the Bushes.

He was a serial rapist, but he did a fairly good job as president. Its possible to be both. He was impeached for lying under oath, not for being a bad president.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

I never thought he was.

One day you call Bill Clinton a rapist, the next you agree that it's accurate to consider him a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and both of the Bushes.

What do you call him.....'star'?

Clinton Misogyny - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:

 

[PoliticalChic]

So you don't disagree with the poll that Clinton was a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, GHW Bush, and GW Bush.

So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

I never thought he was.

One day you call Bill Clinton a rapist, the next you agree that it's accurate to consider him a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and both of the Bushes.

"So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

I never thought he was."

Say that twice more.....


Luke 22:61
And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the saying of the Lord, how he had said to him, “Before the rooster crows today, you will deny me three times.”

 

[Gadawg73]

Worst to Best Order
Obama
LBJ
Nixon
Bush II
Carter
Ford
Clinton
Bush I
Truman
Kennedy
Ike
Reagan

Obama nice guy but dumb ass on everything ecomomic
Johnson was a good man but sent 57,000 men to die in Nam, never should have escalated the war.
Bush with the Iraq invasion massive mistake
Nixon crooked and liar
Clinton same as Nixon not as bad or close
Carter hated by the liberal elite in his own party and not enough foreign policy experience.
Ford played too many college football games with his helmet off
Bush I tried to pacify the liberals
Ike warned us about the exploding for profit health care bankrupting the country
Kennedy brought the consensus that Russians had to be dealt with both militarily and diplomatically to avoid nuclear war
Truman dropped the bomb which was right thing to do and went to Korea which was also the right thing to do
Reagan crossed the aisle and got things done, beat the Russians by INCREASING MILITARY SPENDING

 

[NYcarbineer]

So you no longer find Obama to be the messiah?

I never thought he was.

One day you call Bill Clinton a rapist, the next you agree that it's accurate to consider him a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and both of the Bushes.

What do you call him.....'star'?

Clinton Misogyny - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:

I'd say he's been the target of many unproven accusations.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Worst to Best Order
Obama
LBJ
Nixon
Bush II
Carter
Ford
Clinton
Truman
Bush I
Kennedy
Ike
Reagan

Is that your opinion or just the order in the poll?

 

[Foxfyre]

As much as Obama sucks, it's hard to say that he's worse than Bush considering what Bush left for Obama to deal with.

Also, since Obama is so terrible then does that mean that Mormney and McCain are even worse because they lost to a loser?'

There are none so stubborn as those who are still blaming Bush to excuse the incompetence of a President now in his sixth year and who STILL hasn't accomplished anything of lasting merit. In the recent Quinnipac poll cited in the OP a plurality of Americans now believe we would be better off if Romney had won which was also the case last year:

November 2013
An ABC/Washington Post poll released earlier this week found that if they had a do-over, Romney would win 49 percent to 45 percent. The difference is within the margin of error of 3.5 percentage points, but Obama polls a lower percentage of the vote today than he did in November 2012.

Read more: If voters knew they'd lose insurance, Romney would have won | The Daily Caller

And why did Romney and McCain lose? Well, apart from neither of them being really good campaigners, the power no longer resides with the voter. The power resides with he who counts the votes and controls the message. A Democrat supported by the surrogate leftwing MSM--the source providing the message to most Democrats and left leaning independents--were fed an unvetted and inexperienced Barack Obama as the best thing since sliced bread and Mitt Romney or John McCain as the devil personified.

It is only in living one's life under the reality of a Barack Obama that folks are no longer so gullible or enamored.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I never thought he was.

One day you call Bill Clinton a rapist, the next you agree that it's accurate to consider him a better president than Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, and both of the Bushes.

What do you call him.....'star'?

Clinton Misogyny - Sex
Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising her"
Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations, threats
Sandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault
22 Year Old 1972 (Yale) - sexual assault
Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assault
Cristy Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations
Paula Jones (AR) - unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
Carolyn Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assault
1974 student at University of Arkansas - unwelcomed physical contact
1978-1980 - seven complaints per Arkansas state troopers
Monica Lewinsky - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Gennifer Flowers - quid pro quo, post incident character assault
Dolly Kyle Browning - post incident character assault
Sally Perdue - post incident threats
Betty Dalton - rebuffed his advances, married to one of his supporters
Denise Reeder - apologetic note scanned
CLINTON'S ROGUES GALLERY:

I'd say he's been the target of many unproven accusations.

"I'd say he's been the target of many unproven accusations."

Unproven?

Really?


That's because you are frequently at odds with the truth.


1. When any Liberal/Progressive/Democrat bootlicker is presented with the list of Bill Clintons rape and sexual misbehaviors, the knee-jerk response of the jerk is the expected: "But...but (sputter- sputter) he was never convicted in any court of law!!

This, of course, is a prime example of sophistry, the use of fallacious arguments, with the intention of deceiving. (i.e., the jerk is a liar.)

Let's include a vocabulary lesson in this:
tergiversation equivocation: falsification by means of vague or ambiguous language
And your picture was prominently displayed next to the definition.


2. This is not a court of law, and the argument does not end with a jail sentence....sadly.
It is the court of real world experience, and is based on one's judgment using their experience and knowledge, and, especially, the past behavior of the individual in question.

The type of verdict demanded does not require that of a court, it is the court of public opinion.


3. Based on Clinton's history, is the charge that he refused to acknowledge his prey's refusal for sexual intercourse...possible or impossible?
.......probable or improbable?
.....exceptional or expected?

4. Has he been shown to be a liar? Yes, in fact in a court of law.



The answer is clear.
"Bill 'the rapist' Clinton" is an accurate description.




5. The same procedure should be used to examine as to whether charges would even be brought against one of his lofty political stature...and political party.

That question requires even less effort to answer.....as it has been answered previously, in an even more serious matter: responsibility in the death of a young woman.
I refer to "The Liberal Lion," Ted Kennedy.




6. An auxiliary question might be 'what type of individual would support rapists and murderers as mentioned above?
This, too, is an easy question to answer.
Democrats/Liberals/Progressives




So glad you encouraged this exposition.

 

[Ropey]

Well Obama being the worst president should not surprise anyone.

A small uneducated and low info type of person may disagree with this.

My top three are:

3. GW Bush
2. Carter
1. Obama

^Mine as well and in that order.

+2