Who is the most underrated NBA player in history? My 2 submissions.

Durant has been more of an assassin than James. I wish him, Westbrook and harden would have stayed together

Like Golden State, with that much EGO on the floor, you need a destructive force to deal w/ like a Drayond Green! I could have told you that Brooklyn Net dream, turned nightmare was gonna be a huge fail! Players trying to be GM's of their own team gets you "The Lakers!" When will they learn? The money's too plentiful so winning is almost secondary! I barely watch the regular seasons! Just surfing by periodically shows a "comedy of errors" on the floor which really ticks me off! :omg: :nono::rolleyes::stir:
 
Tim Duncan is under rated. He may be the best power forward ever. Not center. No small forward.

or was he a small forward? Whatever he was, I’ve heard people say he is the best at that position he played. Do you agree?
Tim Duncan will be underrated by modern sports fan absolutely. He lacks the style factor that youthful content creators look for when they spew their ideals of what a great basketball player is to the masses. I've seen many players who are exalted by street ball culture but aren't as high of status in NBA history as Duncan.. such as Allen Iverson, Carmelo Anthony, Dwayne Wade, and Kobe Bryant (they might be on the same plane).

Duncan already is somewhat underrated, and he's going to become VERY underrated very fast because he's not a sexy player .
How about Durant?
I think it's been proven that Durant was semi overrated. His career on the ascent was just how he, or anyone, would want it to be. He and Westbrook led the Thunder to the finals and lost, which is no crime as they were a young team. Then Durant kept losing the playoffs until...

Until he made the choice that completely neutered any claim he may have wanted to make that he's an alpha dog. He lost the Warriors in the Western Conference finals to the 73-9 Warriors, and then tucked his tail between his legs, took his prime MVP self, and joined another MVP in his prime Steph Curry.

Durant will never outlive that. Not only because of what it was when it happened, but what he's produced since. He went to the Nets and played with other stars and completely bombed, and now is in Phoenix with tons of talent and getting bounced in the first round.

Durant is comparable to (my favorite player of all time) Dominique Wilkins. An all-time great scoring talent who rivaled the greatest of his era (Dominique vs. Jordan was a huge rivalry), but couldn't beat him.
How about Kyree? Like, if Kyree wins another one. Should he be put in the top 50?
It depends on who the top 50 are.
 
LOL. Care to give any reason as to how that's true?
Every guy on the Celtics is more of an assassin than Lebron is. And they aren't even as talented as he is. They just want the ball in their hands or aren't looking to pass when the games on the line.

You got me on this one. Kobe and Lebron are tied for most playoff game winning shots


Jordan won a lot of championships, and personally hit a lot of clutch shots, but there were also games where classic second/third option guys like Paxson and Kerr were the ones benefiting from his greatness by getting open looks and delivering...
 
Every guy on the Celtics is more of an assassin than Lebron is.
What is your metric for being an “assassin”…
And they aren't even as talented as he is. They just want the ball in their hands or aren't looking to pass when the games on the line.
Jordan won a lot of championships, and personally hit a lot of clutch shots, but there were also games where classic second/third option guys like Paxson and Kerr were the ones benefiting from his greatness by getting open looks and delivering...
Wouldn’t that be Jordan passing when the game is on the line and not being an “assassin”?

LOL

You’re so deluded. Here you have framed the same play completely differently based on just your own bias.

1. If Lebron passes to the open man with the game on the line, he’s not an “assassin” and doesn’t want the ball in husnhands

2. If MJ passes the ball to the open man with the same on the line, it was the other player “benefitting from MJ’s greatness”

LMAO
 
What is your metric for being an “assassin”…

Wouldn’t that be Jordan passing when the game is on the line and not being an “assassin”?

LOL

You’re so deluded. Here you have framed the same play completely differently based on just your own bias.

1. If Lebron passes to the open man with the game on the line, he’s not an “assassin” and doesn’t want the ball in husnhands

2. If MJ passes the ball to the open man with the same on the line, it was the other player “benefitting from MJ’s greatness”

LMAO
Lots of reasons to say Lebron is the GOAT but those 6 championships erase all those arguments.

Sometimes Steve Kerr hit the game winner. Because he was wide open.

According to NBA.com/stats, a "wide open" 3-pointer happens with six or more feet of room between the shooter and the defender. An "open" 3-pointer happens with 4-6 feet of room, a "tightly" contested 3-pointer comes with 2-4 feet of room and a "very tightly" contested 3-pointer comes with 0-2 feet of room.

For instance, if you're playing the Warriors, you're doing all you can to not allow Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to get a wide-open look at a 3-pointer. That means the Draymond Greens of the world, as a consequence, get left alone to fire at will and defenses takes their chances.

So which teams were the best at knocking down wide-open 3-pointers last season? Which players on those teams came through and which players failed?

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Cleveland Cavaliers

  • 39.9 percent on wide-open 3-pointers, 41.3 percent of their 3-point attempts
Who was the most reliable guy defenses left open? Kevin Love led all shooters in the NBA with wide-open 3-point looks at 249 and knocked down 39.4 percent of them. J.R. Smith was excellent with 43.3 percent on 178 shots and Matthew Dellavedova earned big money with 44.9 percent on 118 attempts. Richard Jefferson also emerged as a guy not to leave, knocking down 48.3 percent of his 58 attempts.

Who was the least reliable guy defenses left open? Kyrie Irving and Iman Shumpert were the main guys who failed to really help the Cavs on wide-open shots. Irving made 36.8 percent on 95 attempts and Shumpert hit 35.4 percent of 65 attempts. And while Channing Frye was hot in the playoffs, he made just 35.7 percent of 56 attempts after leaving Orlando for Cleveland in a mid-season trade. Big surprise is LeBron James for not being that bad. His outside jumper has been awful since returning to Cleveland, but he did make 37.6 percent of 93 wide-open 3-pointers. It's below league average but not awful.

This kind of argues for Lebron. His teammates were wide open because of him. Listen, I love the guy. But Jordan B #1.
 
Lots of reasons to say Lebron is the GOAT but those 6 championships erase all those arguments.

Sometimes Steve Kerr hit the game winner. Because he was wide open.

According to NBA.com/stats, a "wide open" 3-pointer happens with six or more feet of room between the shooter and the defender. An "open" 3-pointer happens with 4-6 feet of room, a "tightly" contested 3-pointer comes with 2-4 feet of room and a "very tightly" contested 3-pointer comes with 0-2 feet of room.

For instance, if you're playing the Warriors, you're doing all you can to not allow Steph Curry or Klay Thompson to get a wide-open look at a 3-pointer. That means the Draymond Greens of the world, as a consequence, get left alone to fire at will and defenses takes their chances.

So which teams were the best at knocking down wide-open 3-pointers last season? Which players on those teams came through and which players failed?

8.
CLE.png
Cleveland Cavaliers

  • 39.9 percent on wide-open 3-pointers, 41.3 percent of their 3-point attempts
Who was the most reliable guy defenses left open? Kevin Love led all shooters in the NBA with wide-open 3-point looks at 249 and knocked down 39.4 percent of them. J.R. Smith was excellent with 43.3 percent on 178 shots and Matthew Dellavedova earned big money with 44.9 percent on 118 attempts. Richard Jefferson also emerged as a guy not to leave, knocking down 48.3 percent of his 58 attempts.

Who was the least reliable guy defenses left open? Kyrie Irving and Iman Shumpert were the main guys who failed to really help the Cavs on wide-open shots. Irving made 36.8 percent on 95 attempts and Shumpert hit 35.4 percent of 65 attempts. And while Channing Frye was hot in the playoffs, he made just 35.7 percent of 56 attempts after leaving Orlando for Cleveland in a mid-season trade. Big surprise is LeBron James for not being that bad. His outside jumper has been awful since returning to Cleveland, but he did make 37.6 percent of 93 wide-open 3-pointers. It's below league average but not awful.

This kind of argues for Lebron. His teammates were wide open because of him. Listen, I love the guy. But Jordan B #1.
Jordan did it with one team. James rented himself out to several teams and formed super teams with other players. Does not take away from his great play. It seems cities are lucky to have great teams formed from free agency and the top players signed. In recent years, at least different teams have won some championships and that is refreshing. It gives hope for others.
 

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