Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

[daveman]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

Since I have a pretty good idea of how trump lives; lies, cheats, cons people, stiffs his creditors, insults the dead, pisses on the constitution, insults soldiers, cheats at golf, grabs *****....

it's pretty obvious that Buttigieg, even if he was an atheist, would be more religious than trump.

Trump doesn't pretend to be a religious leader. Buttplug imagines himself as the nation's pastor with his boyfriend's shit smeared on his thighs.

Sure he does. At one time he was a Democrat that was pro-choice. He pretends all this time. Trump is currently pretending to be the President of the country. Its rare when he actually functions in that role.

Buttigieg has never stated he was a pastor or religious leader.

Ummm...Trump IS President.

It was in all the papers.

Sure he is the President. But that does not mean he is actually doing his job. As Kellyanne Conway's husband recently said, we really don't have a functioning President with Trump in the White House.

Conway's husband is a butthurt little *****.

 

[daveman]

You lead an interested fantasy life.

Nope, it comes down to Donald Trump's average approval rating of the past 2.5 years as measured by GALLUP, 40%. That is the lowest of any President that has ever served in office. Were talking about the average of multiple polls taken, not is low or his highest rating in any one poll taken by Gallup. Typically a President needs close to 50% approval to be re-elected. The highest Trump has ever been is 45%. His average is 40%. The President with the next lowest average, had an average of 45%.

Then there is the fact that Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. Trump is less popular now than he was in 2016. Over 90% of the time, the winner of the popular vote is the winner of the electoral college. Also, no sitting President has ever been re-elected without winning the popular vote.

Finally, there is the tiny margin Trump won the states of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan. Trump will get slaughtered in these states in 2020. Without those states, he can't be re-elected President.

So this is no fantasy, but an accurate analysis of Trumps chances in 2020, which are not good.

So you pick a nobody to back.

What's going to be your excuse when he's not even nominated? Homophobia?

And please answer my question. Are you a Christian?

Yes I'm Christian. Also my preferred candidate is actually Joe Biden, although I would probably place Pete Buttigieg in second.

Remind me again...which church condones sexual assault?

Biden is not guilty of sexual assault. Donald Trump is guilty of sexual assault and is on tape bragging about sexual assault.

Biden's not guilty of sexual assault?

I'm sure that's great comfort to the children he's fondled.

 

[daveman]

"By their fruits you shall know them."

John the Baptist says no.

You don't speak for John the Baptist.

I QUOTED HIM. You don't listen to John the Baptist.

It seems important to you to "normalize" Buttplug's sins as "Christian" behaviour. Why is that?

Buttigieg is not a sinner because he is homosexual. He was born that way just as any heterosexual was born the way they were. Do you suffer from homophobia?

John The Baptist would have far more problems with Donald Trump than Pete Buttigieg. Its difficult to see how any Christian could support someone like Donald Trump.

Plenty of horrible people are born that way. Pedophiles are born that way. Serial killers are born that way. Arsonists are born to enjoy setting fires. Born that way is no excuse nor is it a reason.

Homosexuality is a benign anamoly. It harms no one until is it accepted as normal behavior. Then it becomes toxic. Is it a sin? That's not my job. I'm not judging Buttplug as a sinner. If I accept such behavior as normal it is a sin and it is my sin. Donald Trump has never preached about the normalcy of multiple marriages even though it is quite normal. He has never called homosexuals bad Christians as has been done to him. Donald Trump is NO preacher anxious to tell us how wrong we are. Mayor Buttplug is more than anxious to take every opportunity to tell the majority that they must accept and celebrate that which the normal should very much reject. Buttplug is NOT my pastor and more than Trump is. Buttplug just wants to be one.

Pedophilia, murder and arson are crimes. These crimes harm people. Being a homosexual is not a crime. It is no more harmful than being heterosexual.

Donald Trump recently spent his time as President attacking both John McCain and Barbara Bush who both passed away in 2018. Just had to preach about how "wrong" they were and how "right" he was. Trump thinks that he is God.

It's been hilarious to see the left get all sentimental about McCain and Barb since they attacked Trump.

Before Trump, of course, the Left constantly demonized both.

 

[Avatar4321]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious. What’s with the false comparison?

 

[daveman]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious. What’s with the false comparison?

OP thinks he can somehow shame Christians into supporting the nobody.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Buttplug is using his warped view of religion to give the God-haters something to cling to. Buttplug is a definite and worships at the alter of "Choice." That's enough understanding to make an informed choice.

 

[Mike Dwight]

I purposefully attend a homosexual worship service led by a mainline woman homosexual. She preaches , I'm a Woman. Ya! I'm a homosexual! Ya! Then some insulting joke about women drivers! No! I was just kidding! Ya! Show them we're Christians by our love, by our love , show them we are Christians.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious. What’s with the false comparison?

Basically, they want to shit on Christians and Christianity, and THEN turn around and try to use it to shame us into agreeing with what they want.

They alway miss the point where we would have to value and respect their view of Christianity and care what they think of us for it to work.

 

[Avatar4321]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious. What’s with the false comparison?

Basically, they want to shit on Christians and Christianity, and THEN turn around and try to use it to shame us into agreeing with what they want.

They alway miss the point where we would have to value and respect their view of Christianity and care what they think of us for it to work.

And the part where we know our religion better than they do

 

[Cecilie1200]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious. What’s with the false comparison?

Basically, they want to shit on Christians and Christianity, and THEN turn around and try to use it to shame us into agreeing with what they want.

They alway miss the point where we would have to value and respect their view of Christianity and care what they think of us for it to work.

And the part where we know our religion better than they do

And the fact that they have a serious problem with hubris.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

The Homosexuals have really screwed-up the Catholic and Episcopal churches.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious.

Then you haven't read much about Buttegieg. He is a devout Christian. But hey, nobody's perfect....

 

[Cecilie1200]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious.

Then you haven't read much about Buttegieg. He is a devout Christian. But hey, nobody's perfect....

No, he CLAIMS to be a devout Christian. Of course, he also makes ludicrous claims about what Christianity involves, so . . .

 

[Likkmee]

is it important?

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

....I don't believe in god and I have good, moral behavior/etc

Maybe you do, but most Americans would prefer a President that believes in God. Most Americans believe in God and tend to vote for candidates that believe in God. That's why there are no Atheist in the House Of Representatives, Senate or White House. We have IN GOD WE TRUST printed on are money.

Which GoD ?

 

[Taz]

 

[Avatar4321]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious.

Then you haven't read much about Buttegieg. He is a devout Christian. But hey, nobody's perfect....

He is in a gay relationship so he can't be that devout

 

[Cecilie1200]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious.

Then you haven't read much about Buttegieg. He is a devout Christian. But hey, nobody's perfect....

He is in a gay relationship so he can't be that devout

To leftists - and far too many other people, these days - "devout" means "I rewrite doctrine to suit myself and to make whatever I want to do perfectly okay, and then congratulate myself on how spiritual I am for being exactly the same".

Religion is easy when it consists of "I am perfect in everything I do", I guess, but I can't see how it has any value beyond empty self-satisfaction.

 

[Rambunctious]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

The one that pushes for Christian rights...that would be the Donald....

 

[Penelope]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious.

Then you haven't read much about Buttegieg. He is a devout Christian. But hey, nobody's perfect....

He is in a gay relationship so he can't be that devout

To leftists - and far too many other people, these days - "devout" means "I rewrite doctrine to suit myself and to make whatever I want to do perfectly okay, and then congratulate myself on how spiritual I am for being exactly the same".

Religion is easy when it consists of "I am perfect in everything I do", I guess, but I can't see how it has any value beyond empty self-satisfaction.

I'm curious , what do you think devout means. Everyone , esp Republicans rewrite doctrine to suit their needs, but only Democrats think there should be a separation of church and state. Republican quotes are incomplete and out of context more often than not. God in the OT and NT hated adultery. Tramp is full of adultery, of money, of sex, and well lets face it , he thinks he is God.

 

[miketx]

I’ve seen no evidence that either are particularly religious.

Then you haven't read much about Buttegieg. He is a devout Christian. But hey, nobody's perfect....

He is in a gay relationship so he can't be that devout

To leftists - and far too many other people, these days - "devout" means "I rewrite doctrine to suit myself and to make whatever I want to do perfectly okay, and then congratulate myself on how spiritual I am for being exactly the same".

Religion is easy when it consists of "I am perfect in everything I do", I guess, but I can't see how it has any value beyond empty self-satisfaction.

I'm curious , what do you think devout means. Everyone , esp Republicans rewrite doctrine to suit their needs, but only Democrats think there should be a separation of church and state. Republican quotes are incomplete and out of context more often than not. God in the OT and NT hated adultery. Tramp is full of adultery, of money, of sex, and well lets face it , he thinks he is God.

There is no separation of church and state clause in the BoR's. I know you'll twist smoke spin and lie but you won't show me because there is not one.