Who is losing with China's Evergrande Group down

[RodISHI]

It peaked my curiosity as to who the biggest losers would be so I looked it up and this is what I found. Would have been interesting to watch all this the last five years but like others I was busy watching other things.

The China Evergrande Group is the second largest property developer in China by sales. It is ranked 122nd on the Fortune Global 500. It is incorporated in the Cayman Islands, a British Overseas Territory, and headquartered in the Houhai Financial Center in Nanshan District, Shenzhen, Guangdong Province...
China Evergrande Group (3333.HK) Stock Major Holders - Yahoo Finance

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Holder	Shares	Date Reported	% Out	Value
Vanguard International Stock Index-Emerging Markets Stk	33,167,057	Jul 31, 2021	0.25%	174,458,719
Vanguard International Stock Index-Total Intl Stock Indx	30,589,357	Jul 31, 2021	0.23%	160,900,017
iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets ETF	16,347,000	Oct 31, 2021	0.12%	37,925,040
Vanguard Global ex U.S. Real Estate Index Fund	9,129,921	Jul 31, 2021	0.07%	48,023,384
iShares MSCI Emerging Markets ETF	7,021,388	Oct 31, 2021	0.05%	16,289,620
Schwab Strategic Tr-Schwab Fundamental Emg Mkts Large Co Index ETF	6,738,652	Aug 31, 2021	0.05%	29,380,522
KraneShares MSCI China Enviroment Index ETF	4,524,000	Sep 30, 2021	0.03%	13,345,800
iShares MSCI China ETF	4,500,000	Oct 31, 2021	0.03%	10,440,000
Vanguard Intl Equity Index Fds-FTSE All World ex U.S. Index Fund	4,473,461	Jul 31, 2021	0.03%	23,530,404
Schwab Strategic Tr-Schwab Emerging Markets Equity ETF	3,337,653	Aug 31, 2021	0.03%	14,552,167

 

[RodISHI]

Now while their property portion took a crap their electric autos are going gang busters. Gee, our politicians push our standards into the shitter and boost China's again. Isn't that so nice.

My elderly widowed mom on a limited income reported to me yesterday the propane company was charging her $6.98 a gallon for propane. Apparently she got frustrated and told them not to put anything into the tank. She was going to to do a partial fill to get some heat until she got pissed and told them forget it and went and bought some electric heaters. Then apparently they called her back and told her they could sell her some at $4.98 a gallon. She told them no she didn't want any of their gas period. A neighbor she spoke with gets their propane from a different supplier and the cost is $2.98 a gallon (even so way too much). So mom's looking to buy her own tank in case she wants to use the furnace again. Twenty-five years ago we spent about $600.00 a month heating our place down the road from her and propane was .50 to .72 a gallon and I always shopped around because we had our own tank.


So who all is cheering on China and their New green deal??? I sure as hell ain't.

Company Profile​

Evergrande International Center
28th Floor No. 78 Huangpu Avenue West
Guangzhou 510620
China

恒大健康
Sector(s): Healthcare
Industry: Medical Care Facilities
Full Time Employees: 14,493
China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited, an investment holding company, operates as a health management company in the People's Republic of China, Europe, and internationally. The company operates through two segments, Health Management and New Energy Vehicle. It develops and sells health and living properties; and provides community health management, medical cosmetology, and anti-aging services, as well as elderly care and rehabilitation. The company is involved in the wholesale of home care and healthcare products, as well as provision of healthcare services and software services. In addition, it engages in the research and development of pharmaceuticals; production of medical equipment; and manufacture and sale of smart mobility and lithium-ion battery. Further, the company is involved in the research, development, production, and sales of new energy vehicles and vehicle living project. The company was formerly known as Evergrande Health Industry Group Limited and changed its name to China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited in August 2020. China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited was founded in 1999 and is headquartered in Guangzhou, China. China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited is a subsidiary of China Evergrande Group.

Company Profile​

Evergrande International Center
28th Floor No. 78 Huangpu Avenue West
Guangzhou 510620
China

恒大健康

恒大健康集团积极践行“健康中国”国家战略，是恒大集团旗下集新型高端国际医院、社区健康管理服务、全龄化健康服务“养生空间”等业务为一体的综合大型健康产业集团，于2015年5月在香港联交所主板上市。

health.evergrande.com

Sector(s): Healthcare
Industry: Medical Care Facilities
Full Time Employees: 14,493
China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited, an investment holding company, operates as a health management company in the People's Republic of China, Europe, and internationally. The company operates through two segments, Health Management and New Energy Vehicle. It develops and sells health and living properties; and provides community health management, medical cosmetology, and anti-aging services, as well as elderly care and rehabilitation. The company is involved in the wholesale of home care and healthcare products, as well as provision of healthcare services and software services. In addition, it engages in the research and development of pharmaceuticals; production of medical equipment; and manufacture and sale of smart mobility and lithium-ion battery. Further, the company is involved in the research, development, production, and sales of new energy vehicles and vehicle living project. The company was formerly known as Evergrande Health Industry Group Limited and changed its name to China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited in August 2020. China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited was founded in 1999 and is headquartered in Guangzhou, China. China Evergrande New Energy Vehicle Group Limited is a subsidiary of China Evergrande Group.

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Individual or Entity	Most Recent Transaction	Date	Shares Owned as of Transaction Date
Liu (Yongzhuo) Director (Executive)	Acquisition	Jun 10, 2021	1,653,500
Qin (Liyong) Chief Executive Officer	Acquisition	Jun 10, 2021	686,000
Siu (Shawn) Chairman of the Board	Acquisition	Jun 23, 2021	4,600,000
Tan (Chaohui) Chairman of the Board	Acquisition	Nov 20, 2017	6,290,000
*Insider roster data is derived solely from the last 24 months of Form 3 & Form 4 SEC filings. Institutional shareholders​ Top holders Movers 0.09%Per cent of shares held by top holders Holder Shares % Held JPMorgan Investment Management, Inc.as of 02 Dec 2021 5.68m 0.06% SSgA Funds Management, Inc.as of 01 Dec 2021 1.01m 0.01% Legal & General Investment Management Ltd.as of 02 Dec 2021 618.50k 0.01% Parametric Portfolio Associates LLCas of 31 Oct 2021 616.50k 0.01% Mellon Investments Corp.as of 03 Dec 2021 365.00k 0.00% Geode Capital Management LLCas of 31 Oct 2021 321.00k 0.00% TD Asset Management, Inc.as of 02 Dec 2021 161.70k 0.00% CSOP Asset Management Ltd.as of 10 May 2021 149.00k 0.00% GLG Partners LPas of 31 Dec 2020 122.50k 0.00% Henderson Global Investors Ltd.as of 31 Oct 2021 113.50k 0.00%

 

[Mac-7]

Many average chinese will lose thanks to bad management by the company and the CCP

I suspect that if they could half the people in china would leave

 

[DudleySmith]

Be interesting to know if all four of those execs are Cadre. Interesting how little one can find out about Red Chinese execs and their connections and factions in English online. All we get is puff pieces on Jack Ma and other Cadre big shots, with little or no mention of their Cadre credentials.

 

[Dekster]

Now while their property portion took a crap their electric autos are going gang busters. Gee, our politicians push our standards into the shitter and boost China's again. Isn't that so nice.

My elderly widowed mom on a limited income reported to me yesterday the propane company was charging her $6.98 a gallon for propane. Apparently she got frustrated and told them not to put anything into the tank. She was going to to do a partial fill to get some heat until she got pissed and told them forget it and went and bought some electric heaters. Then apparently they called her back and told her they could sell her some at $4.98 a gallon. She told them no she didn't want any of their gas period. A neighbor she spoke with gets their propane from a different supplier and the cost is $2.98 a gallon (even so way too much). So mom's looking to buy her own tank in case she wants to use the furnace again. Twenty-five years ago we spent about $600.00 a month heating our place down the road from her and propane was .50 to .72 a gallon and I always shopped around because we had our own tank.....

May be easier said than done. There is a shortage of propane tanks due to COVID, etc, and they are hard to find if you want to buy one. My sister couldn't find one so has to use a rent-a-tank for now. It is "free" as long as you buy so many gallons during winter but otherwise something in the $6-$7 per month range to rent if you don't.