Who gets to decide when and how we die?

[Blues Man]

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His application for euthanasia listed only one health condition as the reason for his request to die: hearing loss.

SO what?

If he doesn't want to live being deaf what makes it your business?

 

[Mr Natural]

SO what?

If he doesn't want to live being deaf what makes it your business?

Exactly!

It not as if the planet is facing a shortage of humans.

 

[JGalt]

If we were to out and look for fentanyl, wouldn't that end your life?

Euthanasia is complex beyond the scope of this column, but its essential question deserves attention: Who has the right to decide when and how we die?

Christian says suicide go to hell?
The religious often accept the principle, as well, deferring to their perception of the will of God, even if it means enduring prolonged suffering.

n fact, the Canadian Minister of Health’s recent annual report notes that among the reasons cited by patients who chose euthanasia, only 58% mentioned “inadequate control of pain.” Eighty-six percent said they prefer to die because of the “loss of ability to engage in meaningful activities.”
Euthanasia, sometimes called mercy killing, is the ending of a person’s life who is terminally ill and suffering in pain. It is different from assisted suicide, which refers to a physician assisting the person in ending their life.
Euthanasia is more commonly performed on sick or injured animals, as euthanasia for humans is illegal in the majority of the United States. As of June 2021, the only jurisdictions that allow this procedure are Oregon, Washington D.C., Hawaii, Washington, Maine, Colorado, New Jersey, California, and Vermont.

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Euthanasian should be the law of the land in the US, but with conservatives on the SC would never go for it, because they believe in heaven and hell.
What zealots.

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Well you do have a point there. Considering that conservatives don't believe in euthanasia, there would be a hell of alot fewer liberals in this world.

 

[Blues Man]

Well you do have a point there. Considering that conservatives don't believe in euthanasia, there would be a hell of alot fewer liberals in this world.

Euthanasia and assisted suicide are not quite the same thing.

 

[Vastator]

SO what?

If he doesn't want to live being deaf what makes it your business?

You clearly didn't read the article...

 

[Blues Man]

You clearly didn't read the article...

Irrelevant.

It doesn't matter why anyone would choose to end his own life as the decision to do so is that person's and not yours.

 

[Vastator]

Irrelevant.

It doesn't matter why anyone would choose to end his own life as the decision to do so is that person's and not yours.

It's quite relevant. Idiot...

 

[Vastator]

 

[Blues Man]

It's quite relevant. Idiot...

Not relevant at all.

If a perfectly healthy person wanted to end his own life his reason for wanting to do so is his business not yours.

Every single person has the absolute right to decide if he lives or not.

 

[Vastator]

Not relevant at all.

If a perfectly healthy person wanted to end his own life his reason for wanting to do so is his business not yours.

Every single person has the absolute right to decide if he lives or not.

You wouldn't show yourself to be the idiot you do, if you had bothered read the article... That's what mindless e-moting gets ya...

 

[Blues Man]

You wouldn't show yourself to be the idiot you do, if you had bothered read the article... That's what mindless e-moting gets ya...

I did read it and the laws in Canada have nothing to do with the fact that everyone has the right to end their life if they want to.

The government does not have to approve anyone's desire to end his own life and in fact has absolutely no say in the matter

It's no one's business if a person wants to end his own life.

 

[DGS49]

The only role the Govt should have in all this is to de-criminalize assisting a suicide...maybe establish a protocol for determining whether the choice is the product of mental illness or freely made.

We Boomers have been saying for decades that "If I'm ever that bad off...just shoot me." But when the time comes, most of us are clinging to every straw that we can reach.

Suicide is one of those things that actually has chanced over the eons. While there were moral arguments to be made before, most of them go out the door when you have nursing homes hosting thousands of people who have no idea where they are, who their families are, or what they are doing. In biblical times nobody lived that long.

 

[Blues Man]

The only role the Govt should have in all this is to de-criminalize assisting a suicide...maybe establish a protocol for determining whether the choice is the product of mental illness or freely made.

We Boomers have been saying for decades that "If I'm ever that bad off...just shoot me." But when the time comes, most of us are clinging to every straw that we can reach.

Suicide is one of those things that actually has chanced over the eons. While there were moral arguments to be made before, most of them go out the door when you have nursing homes hosting thousands of people who have no idea where they are, who their families are, or what they are doing. In biblical times nobody lived that long.

Accept that the common diagnosis of anyone who tries to kill himself is that he is in some way mentally ill.

 

[Vastator]

I did read it and the laws in Canada have nothing to do with the fact that everyone has the right to end their life if they want to.

The government does not have to approve anyone's desire to end his own life and in fact has absolutely no say in the matter

It's no one's business if a person wants to end his own life.

There's way more to it. If someone wants to kill themselves, that's on them. But what's happening in Canada is far more insidious. People are going in for treatment in their socialized medical system; and instead of having the patients needs being taken care of; the State is serving its own needs by dragging its feet in providing the neccessary medical services, but kindly offering euthanasia as a consolation prize. It's ******* demented, and likely every leftist on this boards wet dream...

 

[Blues Man]

There's way more to it. If someone wants to kill themselves, that's on them. But what's happening in Canada is far more insidious. People are going in for treatment in their socialized medical system; and instead of having the patients needs being taken care of; the State is serving its own needs by dragging its feet in providing the neccessary medical services, but kindly offering euthanasia as a consolation prize. It's ******* demented, and likely every leftist on this boards wet dream...

Once again it's Canada not the US.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Who gets to decide when and how we die?

Certainly not the state.

 

[Grumblenuts]

As long as the government isn’t involved and it it the person’s decision, then that is between them and their God. No one else, especially the government.

Like it or not, this is a nation of laws. We rejected tyranny and formed a democratic republic here where we are "the government" in that we supposedly select people to represent our individual interests within the physical constraints of government by voting.

"The government" is always involved. To pretend otherwise is just being silly. To "be left alone" is a legal appeal which is necessarily decided by our governments. Not by individuals, be they citizens, gods, or doctors.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

but with conservatives on the SC would never go for it, because they believe in heaven and hell.
What zealots.

It’s more a matter of big government authoritarian conservatives interfering in citizens' private lives and private decisions – such as end of life decisions.

 

[Grumblenuts]

There's way more to it. If someone wants to kill themselves, that's on them. But what's happening in Canada is far more insidious. People are going in for treatment in their socialized medical system; and instead of having the patients needs being taken care of; the State is serving its own needs by dragging its feet in providing the neccessary medical services, but kindly offering euthanasia as a consolation prize. It's ******* demented, and likely every leftist on this boards wet dream...

So you're actually fine with "kindly offering euthanasia" in general, but pissed in this or presumably any individual case because treating the medical issues necessarily takes more time and very possibly needless suffering.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-polls/canadians-largely-satisfied-healthcare-system-eager-increased-access

 

[westwall]

Doctors are not part of the government. WHat a patient, his family and doctors decide is not anyone's business.

Agreed. Euthanasia is government controlled.

Assisted suicide is not.