Who Gets the $350 Million the Judge Dreamed Up?

[boedicca]

The piece of shit committed fraud. He lied. He inflated his wealth to get loans, then devalued his wealth to pay less taxes.

You are one sick puppy if you think this is acceptable behavior.

Oh Puh-leeeeeeese. On his loan documents it is noted that these are estimates and the banks should do their own. The banks did those, made the loans and Trump paid them back on time and in full. There are no victims and there was no fraud. Deutsch Bank testified to this. The actual fraud has been performed by the corrupt Dems abusing their positions of power to persecute a political opponent.

 

[Lisa558]

So the argument is that “everyone does it”?

The caveat doesn’t cover deliberate tax fraud…doesn’t really mean anything at all.


Why does Trump get a free pass? If tax fraud is ok…why go after Hunter Biden?







They have…here is one of many examples.

Ex-Real Estate Empire Executive Arrested for Larceny, Tax Fraud

A former New York executive facing lawsuits over the collapse of real estate empire HFZ Capital Group has been arrested in Miami, charged with grand larceny and tax fraud.

news.bloomberglaw.com

So tax fraud is victimless? It is stealing money that pays our military and services to people.



Really? Is that why you are pursuing Hunter Biden? Or is fraud ok if it is your guy?

No, the question is why does ONLY Trump get charged, and everyone else gets a free pass?

 

[boedicca]

No, the question is why does ONLY Trump get charged, and everyone else gets a free pass?

Because Corrupt Globalist Elites are trying to destroy our individual rights. Trump is the big example

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh Puh-leeeeeeese. On his loan documents it is noted that these are estimates and the bank should do their own. The banks did those, made the loans and Trump paid them back on time and in full. There are no victims and there was no fraud. Deutsch Bank testified to this. The actual fraud has been performed by the corrupt Dems abusing their positions of power to persecute a political opponent.

It's not an estimate to say your Trump Tower apartment is 9000 square feet when it is only 3000 square feet! That is a total lie! Which is what Trump is all about.

He's a fucking liar and you are a useful idiot!

 

[rightwinger]

Trump is never going to pay this fine. It will be overturned on appeal.

Unlikely

There is very little he can appeal in terms of the law or court procedure.
He will probably get a reduced penalty but will still pay Bigly.

If he still refuses, he will forfeit assets

 

[boedicca]

It's not an estimate to say your Trump Tower apartment is 9000 square feet when it is only 3000 square feet! That is a total lie! Which is what Trump is all about.

He's a fucking liar and you are a useful idiot!

Oh b'loney. The freakshow judge claimed Mar-a-Lago was only worth $18M when it is worth hundreds of millions. And where is the victim? The banks were paid back in full - no victim, no crime. This is a political hit job. Period. End. Of. Story.

 

[boedicca]

Unlikely

There is very little he can appeal in terms of the law or court procedure.
He will probably get a reduced penalty but will still pay Bigly.

If he still refuses, he will forfeit assets

Bald-R-Dash. If the NYSC doesn't over turn this, it will go to the SCOTUS.

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh b'loney. The freakshow judge claimed Mar-a-Lago was only worth $18M when it is worth hundreds of millions. And where is the victim? The banks were paid back in full - no victim, no crime. This is a political hit job. Period. End. Of. Story.

Trump committed fraud. Plain and simple. Full stop. You're saying fraud is okay if no one is hurt? That is ridiculous!

 

[Lisa558]

Unlikely

There is very little he can appeal in terms of the law or court procedure.
He will probably get a reduced penalty but will still pay Bigly.

If he still refuses, he will forfeit assets

Maybe around $12 million. I’m sure he loses or gains more than that in a single day on the stock market.

But that still doesn’t answer why he, and he alone, was charged and penalized for behavior that apparently is rather common. He could still argue that this was a political prosecution, which of course everyone knows. If he succeeds with that, then he’ll owe nothing - and perhaps even countersue.

 

[boedicca]

Trump committed fraud. Plain and simple. Full stop. You're saying fraud is okay if no one is hurt? That is ridiculous!

Nope. He did not. You can spin it all you'd like, but banks voluntarily lending money to someone who then pays it back is Not Fraud.

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe around $12 million. I’m sure he loses or gains more than that in a single day on the stock market.

But that still doesn’t answer why he, and he alone, was charged and penalized for behavior that apparently is rather common. He could still argue that this was a political prosecution, which of course everyone knows. If he succeeds with that, then he’ll owe nothing - and perhaps even countersue.

I seriously doubt Trump can get off for $12 million

His Lawyers Really, Really Suck
They did a piss poor job of laying the groundwork for Appeal. They let Trump talk too much

Trump will pay Bigly
Maybe not $350 million, but he will pay Bigly

 

[Lisa558]

I seriously doubt Trump can get off for $12 million

His Lawyers Really, Really Suck
They did a piss poor job of laying the groundwork for Appeal. They let Trump talk too much

Trump will pay Bigly
Maybe not $350 million, but he will pay Bigly

$12 million seems in line for this type of thing.

CFPB Orders Bank of America to Pay $12 Million for Reporting False Mortgage Data | Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) today ordered Bank of America to pay a $12 million penalty for submitting false mortgage lending information to the federal government under a long-standing federal law.

www.consumerfinance.gov

 

[WorldWatcher]

Oh b'loney. The freakshow judge claimed Mar-a-Lago was only worth $18M when it is worth hundreds of millions. And where is the victim? The banks were paid back in full - no victim, no crime. This is a political hit job. Period. End. Of. Story.

No he didn't. He notes the Palm Beach Assessor valued MAL at $18M in 2011 and (IIRC) $24M in 2019.

WW

 

[boedicca]

No he didn't. He notes the Palm Beach Assessor valued MAL at $18M in 2011 and (IIRC) $24M in 2019.

WW

Those are property tax assessments, not the market value estimates.

If you are so concerned about fraud, now do Pfizer and Moderna.

 

[Billo_Really]

Nope. He did not. You can spin it all you'd like, but banks voluntarily lending money to someone who then pays it back is Not Fraud.

Bullshit! He lied to get the loan in the first place. Just because he paid back the loan, doesn't mean the fraud didn't occur.

Americans believe in the rule of law. Apparently, you don't.

 

[boedicca]

Bullshit! He lied to get the loan in the first place. Just because he paid back the loan, doesn't mean the fraud didn't occur.

Americans believe in the rule of law. Apparently, you don't.

No, he didn't lie. You Dem loons have been playing gotcha with property tax assessment figures. The only people you are fooling are ignorants Prog sheeple.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Those are property tax assessments, not the market value estimates.

Agreed.

If you are so concerned about fraud, now do Pfizer and Moderna.

What do that have to do with FPOTUS#45 judgement?

WW

 

[boedicca]

Agreed.



What do that have to do with FPOTUS#45 judgement?

WW

Judge Engoron used the property tax assessment in his judgement:

The judge interjected the comment as Trump lawyer Alina Habba had been repeating during her opening remarks that the Palm Beach estate would sell for roughly $1 billion — a figure that Engoron rejected last week in a bombshell ruling.

In his decision, Engoron — who is deciding the trial rather than a jury — cited a local Palm Beach County official saying the country club had been assessed at a range of between $18 million and $27 million between 2011 and 2021.

Judge at Trump civil fraud trial implores media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18M

A judge deciding Donald Trump’s fate in a $250 million civil fraud case implored the media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.

nypost.com

Tax assessment are not the same as market value.

 

[Billo_Really]

No, he didn't lie. You Dem loons have been playing gotcha with property tax assessment figures. The only people you are fooling are ignorants Prog sheeple.

He said his apartment was 9000 square feet when it was only 3000 square feet. That is a lie!

 

[boedicca]

He said his apartment was 9000 square feet when it was only 3000 square feet. That is a lie!

Did he pay back the loan and for which the Bank did it's own independent valuation?