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For those who wonder what this American Civil War song is all about -- "I Goes to Fight Mit Sigel" -- we got a lot German refugees after the failure of the 1848 revolutions in Europe. They were radical democrats, and of course sided with the Union against the Slavocracy. Franz Sigel was a general on the Union side. [ Franz Sigel (U.S. National Park Service)
To fight with "Sigel" is also a able to mean a real "Siegel" = an [official] "seal". To be proved with a seal means also "this thing is okay". So this name lives from a "nomen est omen"-reality.
It's a shame to see all the ridiculous nationalists insulting each other on this forum. Our species is plunging toward catastrophe, and it will engulf everyone.
This was in former times very different. I saw some short years ago a very successful African who had studied in the 1960ies in Germany. He said he was mostly impressed druing hsi toenm when he had studied here from two Germans who fought in the university very heavy with words against each other - and in the evening they drank a beer together and had been very best friends - what was in his own culture an impossibility. But it's to me totally clear what they did do. In the universiy they fought for the best ways to find out what's true - they fought not against each other because of differneces in oponions - they fought with each other to find out what could be a better and more true explanation for whatever problem.
As in all previous wars, our stupid leaders drag the ordinary people into them, and its ordinary people who pay the iron price.
Putin plays a game - and his game figures die.
As for Germany. In the last free election the Germans had, in the autumn of 1933,
1932
the Nazis got 32% of the vote ... down about 5% from what they had received in the Spring. The hardline anti-Nazi Socialist and Communist Parties between them got 37%.
Ahm - the anti-democratic Nazis were against all parties not only against the left wings parties but also against the so called "Zentrum" (center) which tried to represent the mdidle of the society.
If their leaders ... especially the leaders of the communist KPD ... had had some common sense, they could have prevented the Nazis from coming to power.
I see you have a problem in the logic of time. In 1933-1936 nearly the whole world was impressed from the "winner" Hitler. That he made in 1935 the first racist laws against Jews had been for nearly no one in the world a big problem. Reason: Nearly all nations in the western world had been racist nations. Your problem is you im,againe automatically you would had been allknowing in 1933 because you also know what had happened in the hottest phase of the holocaust from 1942-1945. But this no one did know in 1933.
A united anti-Nazi emergency coalition government could have been formed, taking away old Hindenburg's reason for making Hitler chancellor. A physical confrontation -- okay, a civil war -- would still have been necessary,
Hmm ... civil war ? In Germany? ... that's impossible, I guess ... Perhaps it had needed a real war of all Germans against the Prussins and their idiot who liked to be an antiquated "emperor over Germany by the grace of god" in the tradition of the French emperor Napoleon Bonaparte. But Prussia was not only a leading state of Germany in those days, Prussia had been an army who owned a state and had conquererd not only all other German nations which they made to "colonmies of Prussia" (no joke!) - and Prussia also had conquered France.
but the Nazi control of the machinery of government gave them an immense advantage.
The Nazis did not "control" any machinery - within only one year they transformed Germany into a totally new "machine" which never had existed before in history. It was their machinery which controlled everything and nothing.
There's a lesson for patriots in the USA today: we must have unity against the Left -- the latter are not Nazis, but could, like the Nazis, get power even against the will of the majority of the American people.
The Democrats of the USA have with Nazis or Commies absolutelly nothing to do.
And we must prepare.
For what?
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