Who Built the Egyptian Pyramids?

[Quasar44]

The nephilim.

“There were giants in the earth in those days”

The Hebrews were the hapuru ??
That is a holderover from the mythos of Sumer and the Ugarit.

It appears that the Hebrews had a different name by the Egyptians . They were mostly misfits and fringe out laws living in the desert and had a special name .
Interesting that these crazy features folks formed a new nation and identity

Apiru or Habiru.. but the Hebrews were Canaanites in Northeastern Syria and Turkey. Abraham was from Urfa.

 

[irosie91]

The nephilim.

“There were giants in the earth in those days”

That is a holderover from the mythos of Sumer and the Ugarit.

It appears that the Hebrews had a different name by the Egyptians . They were mostly misfits and fringe out laws living in the desert and had a special name .
Interesting that these crazy features folks formed a new nation and identity

Apiru or Habiru.. but the Hebrews were Canaanites in Northeastern Syria and Turkey. Abraham was from Urfa.

"Syria" ??? "Turkey" -------is that in hieroglyphics? or cuneiform? Cannaan was not in "syria" or "turkey" Cannaan was not a country

 

[surada]

There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.

Actually that is not true. As desert nomads they were a tribe of warriors. The Egyptians retained them as mercenaries to guard their border with Nubia. There is NO evidence they were ever slaves in Egypt.

My personal opinion is that they resided in Egypt as mercenaries and learned much from the civilized Egyptians. Many Jewish practices were already present in Egypt, for example circumcision. Some time later they left Egypt and conquered and displaced the Canaanites who were their kin.

The Jews never conquered or displaced the Canaanites. They have excavated Canaanite vllages that were never interrupted much less destroyed.

Sinai and Canaan paid tribute to Pharaoh and were guarded by Egyptian garrisons.

There were Jewish mercenaries on Elephantine Island but that was a thousand years after the Moses story.

"sinai" was not a country----nor was "canaan" Gaza was an outlying----sorta autonomous
"place"

Both were ruled by Egypt.

 

[Quasar44]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

 

[irosie91]

in the last 1500 years Egypt was invaded by arabs and their vigorous slave trade

LOL. The Arabs were tradng with East Africa, the Indus Valley, Egypt, the Levant and Mesopotamai long before that.. Yemen was carryng frankincense and myrrh to King Herod and the Pharaohs for their burial rituals... Commerce and intermarriage go way, way back before Islam.

not really------arabia was "ON THE SILK ROAD"----the traders were not particularly "ARABS"----unless you want to call any person who LIVED or moved thru arabia "ARAB" rather than use
the LINGUISTIC designation. Of course EVENTUALLY there were more and more "arabs"---first
involved (like muhummad) in caravan robbery and later on in TRADE ACTIVITY and they even
managed to develope-----<gasp> a WRITTEN LANGUAGE (with all them persians
passing thru) Yemen was not "arab" during the time of HEROD----it was invaded by
arabs during the GLORIOUS AGE OF ISLAMIC CONQUEST

Yeah they were Arabs.. and that wasn't the silk road.. The Arabs had both dhows and camel caravans that traveled overland.

The dhows traveled the Red Sea and the Persian Gulf with Dilmun as a jumping off point. There are more than 4,000 clay tablets that refer to business transactions and inventories as well as the stories of Gilgamesh and other myths from Sumer.

the sumerians were not arabs

 

[irosie91]

There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.

Actually that is not true. As desert nomads they were a tribe of warriors. The Egyptians retained them as mercenaries to guard their border with Nubia. There is NO evidence they were ever slaves in Egypt.

My personal opinion is that they resided in Egypt as mercenaries and learned much from the civilized Egyptians. Many Jewish practices were already present in Egypt, for example circumcision. Some time later they left Egypt and conquered and displaced the Canaanites who were their kin.

The Jews never conquered or displaced the Canaanites. They have excavated Canaanite vllages that were never interrupted much less destroyed.

Sinai and Canaan paid tribute to Pharaoh and were guarded by Egyptian garrisons.

There were Jewish mercenaries on Elephantine Island but that was a thousand years after the Moses story.

"sinai" was not a country----nor was "canaan" Gaza was an outlying----sorta autonomous
"place"

Both were ruled by Egypt.

right-----and they all spoke arabic and wrote in arabic

 

[surada]

The nephilim.

“There were giants in the earth in those days”

That is a holderover from the mythos of Sumer and the Ugarit.

It appears that the Hebrews had a different name by the Egyptians . They were mostly misfits and fringe out laws living in the desert and had a special name .
Interesting that these crazy features folks formed a new nation and identity

Apiru or Habiru.. but the Hebrews were Canaanites in Northeastern Syria and Turkey. Abraham was from Urfa.

"Syria" ??? "Turkey" -------is that in hieroglyphics? or cuneiform? Cannaan was not in "syria" or "turkey" Cannaan was not a country

Abraham was from Urfa.

The nephilim.

“There were giants in the earth in those days”

That is a holderover from the mythos of Sumer and the Ugarit.

It appears that the Hebrews had a different name by the Egyptians . They were mostly misfits and fringe out laws living in the desert and had a special name .
Interesting that these crazy features folks formed a new nation and identity

Apiru or Habiru.. but the Hebrews were Canaanites in Northeastern Syria and Turkey. Abraham was from Urfa.

"Syria" ??? "Turkey" -------is that in hieroglyphics? or cuneiform? Cannaan was not in "syria" or "turkey" Cannaan was not a country

Abraham was from URFA, Syria near Haran. There was no Ur of the Chaldeas in the time of Abraham.

 

[irosie91]

There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.

Actually that is not true. As desert nomads they were a tribe of warriors. The Egyptians retained them as mercenaries to guard their border with Nubia. There is NO evidence they were ever slaves in Egypt.

My personal opinion is that they resided in Egypt as mercenaries and learned much from the civilized Egyptians. Many Jewish practices were already present in Egypt, for example circumcision. Some time later they left Egypt and conquered and displaced the Canaanites who were their kin.

The Jews never conquered or displaced the Canaanites. They have excavated Canaanite vllages that were never interrupted much less destroyed.

Sinai and Canaan paid tribute to Pharaoh and were guarded by Egyptian garrisons.

There were Jewish mercenaries on Elephantine Island but that was a thousand years after the Moses story.

"sinai" was not a country----nor was "canaan" Gaza was an outlying----sorta autonomous
"place"

Both were ruled by Egypt.

nope

 

[surada]

Gen 11:31 Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans ( Ur [Light] of the ones of Kesad [Clod breaker] ) to go into the land of Canaan, but when they came to Haran, they settled there. (ESV)

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.

Josephus and Rabbi Maimonides believed that Ur Kasdim was in Northern Mesopotamia, in what is today Syria or Turkey.

Abraham's Ur

Where was Abraham's Ur ?

www.accuracyingenesis.com

 

[alang1216]

There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.

Actually that is not true. As desert nomads they were a tribe of warriors. The Egyptians retained them as mercenaries to guard their border with Nubia. There is NO evidence they were ever slaves in Egypt.

My personal opinion is that they resided in Egypt as mercenaries and learned much from the civilized Egyptians. Many Jewish practices were already present in Egypt, for example circumcision. Some time later they left Egypt and conquered and displaced the Canaanites who were their kin.

The Jews never conquered or displaced the Canaanites. They have excavated Canaanite vllages that were never interrupted much less destroyed.

Sinai and Canaan paid tribute to Pharaoh and were guarded by Egyptian garrisons.

There were Jewish mercenaries on Elephantine Island but that was a thousand years after the Moses story.

The Israelites for kin to the Canaanites, if they displaced the Canaanites how would we know?


Do we know when the mercenaries came to Egypt? The Egyptians were poor warriors, they might have been using foreign mercenaries for millenia.

 

[Dusty]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

Tell us master where was good old Abe from?

 

[surada]

There is NO evidence that the Hebrews were ever in Egypt.

Actually that is not true. As desert nomads they were a tribe of warriors. The Egyptians retained them as mercenaries to guard their border with Nubia. There is NO evidence they were ever slaves in Egypt.

My personal opinion is that they resided in Egypt as mercenaries and learned much from the civilized Egyptians. Many Jewish practices were already present in Egypt, for example circumcision. Some time later they left Egypt and conquered and displaced the Canaanites who were their kin.

The Jews never conquered or displaced the Canaanites. They have excavated Canaanite vllages that were never interrupted much less destroyed.

Sinai and Canaan paid tribute to Pharaoh and were guarded by Egyptian garrisons.

There were Jewish mercenaries on Elephantine Island but that was a thousand years after the Moses story.

The Israelites for kin to the Canaanites, if they displaced the Canaanites how would we know?


Do we know when the mercenaries came to Egypt? The Egyptians were poor warriors, they might have been using foreign mercenaries for millenia.

Canaanites continue all thru the OT. Even the Jebucites and Edomites were still in the picture.

 

[surada]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

Tell us master where was good old Abe from?

Gen 11:31 Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans ( Ur [Light] of the ones of Kesad [Clod breaker] ) to go into the land of Canaan, but when they came to Haran, they settled there. (ESV)

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.

Josephus and Rabbi Maimonides believed that Ur Kasdim was in Northern Mesopotamia, in what is today Syria or Turkey.

Abraham's Ur

Where was Abraham's Ur ?

www.accuracyingenesis.com

 

[alang1216]

Canaanites continue all thru the OT. Even the Jebucites and Edomites were still in the picture.

I'm sure it was more complex than one group completely replacing another. The Israelites likely conquered some number of existing cities, enough to have a kingdom, but never could they completely wipe out a whole population.

 

[hjmick]

 

[surada]

Canaanites continue all thru the OT. Even the Jebucites and Edomites were still in the picture.

I'm sure it was more complex than one group completely replacing another. The Israelites likely conquered some number of existing cities, enough to have a kingdom, but never could they completely wipe out a whole population.

They bought Jerusalem from the Jebucites but the Jebucites continued to live there. Joshua is a heroic national myth.. They didn't have any large powerful armies. They've just embelished their history. Solomon had no mines.. They were Egyptian mines that were taken over by the Edomites.

 

[Dusty]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

Tell us master where was good old Abe from?

Gen 11:31 Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans ( Ur [Light] of the ones of Kesad [Clod breaker] ) to go into the land of Canaan, but when they came to Haran, they settled there. (ESV)

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.

Josephus and Rabbi Maimonides believed that Ur Kasdim was in Northern Mesopotamia, in what is today Syria or Turkey.

Abraham's Ur

Where was Abraham's Ur ?

www.accuracyingenesis.com

Take your meds doc

 

[surada]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

Tell us master where was good old Abe from?

Gen 11:31 Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans ( Ur [Light] of the ones of Kesad [Clod breaker] ) to go into the land of Canaan, but when they came to Haran, they settled there. (ESV)

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.

Josephus and Rabbi Maimonides believed that Ur Kasdim was in Northern Mesopotamia, in what is today Syria or Turkey.

Abraham's Ur

Where was Abraham's Ur ?

www.accuracyingenesis.com

Take your meds doc

What are you talking about?

 

[Dusty]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

Tell us master where was good old Abe from?

Gen 11:31 Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans ( Ur [Light] of the ones of Kesad [Clod breaker] ) to go into the land of Canaan, but when they came to Haran, they settled there. (ESV)

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.

Josephus and Rabbi Maimonides believed that Ur Kasdim was in Northern Mesopotamia, in what is today Syria or Turkey.

Abraham's Ur

Where was Abraham's Ur ?

www.accuracyingenesis.com

Take your meds doc

What are you talking about?

I have never spoken, however if you are really hearing voices, then take your meds.

Are you rocking back and forth in front of a wall

 

[surada]

Abraham was from Turkey ???

Tell us master where was good old Abe from?

Gen 11:31 Terah took Abram his son and Lot the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife, and they went forth together from Ur of the Chaldeans ( Ur [Light] of the ones of Kesad [Clod breaker] ) to go into the land of Canaan, but when they came to Haran, they settled there. (ESV)

Abraham was from the city of Ur according to Genesis 11:31 above. The problem is that there are several places called Ur. It is mostly translated as "Ur of the Chaldeans." The problem with "Chaldeans" is that it is a late word used in the Neo-Babylonian times. It is either anachronistic, or a poor translation.

Josephus and Rabbi Maimonides believed that Ur Kasdim was in Northern Mesopotamia, in what is today Syria or Turkey.

Abraham's Ur

Where was Abraham's Ur ?

www.accuracyingenesis.com

Take your meds doc

What are you talking about?

I have never spoken, however if you are really hearing voices, then take your meds.

Are you rocking back and forth in front of a wall

Oh you're just another loon.