Who Are The Palestinians?

[Phoenall]

So true how the surrounding Arab countries massacred their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & left tens of thousands of others as refugees. But let us not forget what those Zionists in Israel have also done to them with their damn peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to piss off the Palestinians thus making this an endless conflict.

Silly Prick......I really believe that all you Zionists are totally brainwashed in Zionist Mantra Trash......I would like a world authority to medically examine you Zionists......they will no doubt find you Madder than ISIS at least they admit their atrosities sic...where as you lie through your teeth or blame others...sick bastards arn't you

but we all know the truth how Zionist Scum,Murdered,Maimed,Exiled and tried to ELIMINATE the Palestinians up until today.You carry collective GUILT........We have NO RESPECT at all for Zionists Terrorists,as they are wastrels of the worst degree.......and like theTerrorists they are,should be eliminated along with ISIS ect and all the other Mad Bastards worldwide..............Stop spewing your Zionist shit on here

WTF is wrong with you ?? I mean seriously ??? All you do is post lies and demented crap.

Now that's funny. The whole Zionist myth is a lie, and you are one of the propagators.

Monti, you are known as one of the biggest propaganda spewers here. You are allergic to the truth, and you are as dumb as an ox.

Posting source documentation from academic and/or UN archives is not posting propaganda. It is called posting fact. You have never posted a source document, you constantly post propaganda from Zionist sources.

As I keep telling you a source document is written by one person and is published unedited, anything else has been altered to suit another persons POV.

 

[Phoenall]

So true how the surrounding Arab countries massacred their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & left tens of thousands of others as refugees. But let us not forget what those Zionists in Israel have also done to them with their damn peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to piss off the Palestinians thus making this an endless conflict.

Silly Prick......I really believe that all you Zionists are totally brainwashed in Zionist Mantra Trash......I would like a world authority to medically examine you Zionists......they will no doubt find you Madder than ISIS at least they admit their atrosities sic...where as you lie through your teeth or blame others...sick bastards arn't you

but we all know the truth how Zionist Scum,Murdered,Maimed,Exiled and tried to ELIMINATE the Palestinians up until today.You carry collective GUILT........We have NO RESPECT at all for Zionists Terrorists,as they are wastrels of the worst degree.......and like theTerrorists they are,should be eliminated along with ISIS ect and all the other Mad Bastards worldwide..............Stop spewing your Zionist shit on here

WTF is wrong with you ?? I mean seriously ??? All you do is post lies and demented crap.

Now that's funny. The whole Zionist myth is a lie, and you are one of the propagators.

BTW, what myth are you talking about ?

These myths:

What a load of old bullshit.

 

[Phoenall]

No, I posted a response regarding Zionist myths. The source documentation supports the myths John Rose lists, e.g. the Zionist myth that claimed that Palestine was uninhabited. The indisputable fact is that Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the European settlement by Jews.

What about the Jews that lived in Palestine, and had done for 3,200 years before the muslims did and 2,500 years before the Christians did ?

 

[Phoenall]

Najd (Arabic: نجد‎) was a Palestinian Arab village, located 14 kilometers (8.7 mi) northeast of Gaza City.

Under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, in 1596, Najd formed part nahiya (subdistrict) of Gaza under the liwa' (district) of Gaza with a population of 215. It paid taxes on a number of crops, including wheat, barley and fruit, as well as on goats, beehives and vineyards.[8]

Cultivated lands in the village in 1944-45 included a total of 10 dunums allocated for citrus and bananas and 11,916 dunums for cereals. An additional 511 dunums were irrigated or used for orchards. The population at this time was 620.

Najd Gaza - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Ram was a Jewish town close to Jerusalem, until the arab muslims forcibly evicted the Jewish owners killing many in the process and renamed it Ramallah.

 

[Phoenall]

There were only a handful of Jews in Palestine prior to the arrival of the land thieving European Jews. Why do you constantly lie?



Source documentation:

"AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921."​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

So what? There's has been a Jewish majority in Jerusalem since the 1840s.

Many of those Arab squatters crossed the Sinai from Egypt into the Holy Land to escape Mehmmet Ali's forced labor details beginning in 1829.

"[E]very Palestinian in Gaza and all over Palestine can prove their Arab roots, whether they be in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, or anywhere else ... half of my family is Egyptian ... [t]here are over 30 families in the Gaza Strip with the surname Al-Masri, 'Egyptian.' Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptian, and the other half are Saudi." -- Fathi Hamad, Hamas minister of the interior and of national security, March 23, 2012.

Idiot,all Palestinians are Semitic Peoples.....Some Jews are NOT......All other Arabs are NOT....you need educating in Geography,Demographics,and Jewish and Palestinian History..........or then why bother with a Zionist Drone like you

So in one breath you are saying that arabs are not semitic, but in the next you are saying they are. Do you confuse yourself very often ?

 

[fanger]

You are wrong, as always
Ramallah - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

There were only a handful of Jews in Palestine prior to the arrival of the land thieving European Jews. Why do you constantly lie?



Source documentation:

"AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921."​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

So what? There's has been a Jewish majority in Jerusalem since the 1840s.

Many of those Arab squatters crossed the Sinai from Egypt into the Holy Land to escape Mehmmet Ali's forced labor details beginning in 1829.

"[E]very Palestinian in Gaza and all over Palestine can prove their Arab roots, whether they be in Saudi Arabia and Yemen, or anywhere else ... half of my family is Egyptian ... [t]here are over 30 families in the Gaza Strip with the surname Al-Masri, 'Egyptian.' Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptian, and the other half are Saudi." -- Fathi Hamad, Hamas minister of the interior and of national security, March 23, 2012.

Hoss to thank this poster really does show you never do,due diligence to any load of nonsense foisted upon the intelligentsia on here.

Here are the real statistic the imposter forgot to mention.......I have taken recorded figures from 1836 and 1850 either side of the inaccurate Zionist conjured figures....so here we go.

1836....In Jerusalem....Jews 3,250......Muslim Palestinians 4,500(corrected 6,700 )......Christians 3,250 of which 2,100 were Christian Palestinians.

So in 1836 there were 6,700 Palestinian Arabs..to.....3,250 Jews.

1850....In Jerusalem....Jews 6,000.....Muslim Palestinians 5,400(corrected 7,800)......Christians 3,600 of which 2,400 were Christian Palestinians

So despite a high % of Jewish increase (most Illegal) The majority of 7,800 Palestinians was still higher than the Jews figure of 6,000.

I really don't quite know what the poster "Rial" is trying to achieve by his post but some idiotic brain storm in that Zionist Terrorist mind of his.

Remembering the 2 leaders of this Banal Terrorist Organization have become Israeli Prime Minister "Begin and Shamir" who openly carried out Terrorist Attacks and murder....and eventually Murdered the excellent Prime Minister of Israel Mr Rabin.....now there was a brilliant man,from head of the IDF realised that Peace with the Palestinians was best for Israel........Hardliners including the Zionists disagreed..So they ASSASINATED HIM.

Any Poster on here that has Zionist connections should rightly be Spurned Asunder and treated with the Contempt Due to them.

steven

BULLSHIT

 

[Phoenall]

Some more Hasbara propaganda: But as usual, source documentation shows that it is propaganda. The Palestinians were calling themselves Palestinian people at least in 1921 as this source document, a letter from the Palestinian Delegation to London (note the name), shows:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON ​

"........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

And the first thing we read s this

PUBLISHED BY HIS MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE.

So not a source document at all

 

[Phoenall]

Some more Hasbara propaganda: But as usual, source documentation shows that it is propaganda. The Palestinians were calling themselves Palestinian people at least in 1921 as this source document, a letter from the Palestinian Delegation to London (note the name), shows:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON ​

"........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

I can almost predict, to the letter, what you are going to say on this thread. It's a given.

I've heard it all before.

Where did you say your training ground is?

Rutgers University. We had access to the source documentation. That is, we had access to the facts. You post propaganda.

No. You do. Because you have a fevered agenda.

Facts are not an agenda.

Published articles are not source documents

 

[Mindful]

LOL TIME The History of 8216 Palestine 8217 Museum 8230 it 8217 s the shortest tour you 8217 re ever going to take

 

[aris2chat]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

The more you post the more INSANE you become........I don't believe this flag is real because the Jews would Never use the Yellow Star of David.....the very colour and markings the Nazis painted on the shops and people of the Jewish faith......this post is disgusting for all the Jews that perished and those who survived at the hands of the EVIL Nazis........You really are as Mad as a Cut Snake....putting it mildly...steven

1939 Palestinian Flag What Does It Look Like Surprised - YouTube

Don't be silly Hoss this flag was the Jewish Flag of all those Illegal Jewish Immigrants......this was never the flag of the Palestinian people at all....good try though......I note the book you used was by "Simmonds" another Rabid Zionist.........this post demeans your intelligence.steve

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the Ottoman muslims invite the Jews to settle and work the land of Palestine, then the LoN who owned the land next did the same thing. So how are the Jews Illegal Immigrants when they had an open invite to migrate to Palestine. Surely it was the arab muslims that turned up uninvited that are the illegal immigrants.

Show me the invite.

several waves in the 15C, 17C and by Abdulhamid II with status the same under the Pact of Halepa.

 

[montelatici]

Do you know what the definition of Genocide is? I think not.

Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide (For full text click here)
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Israel has committed (a), (b), and (c), against the Palestinians.

Oh now I get it. You see you Zionists the Palestinians have not commited A, B & C GENOCIDE on the Israeli's. Right Monte.

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Does a Palestinian government have any sovereign control over the Jews of Israel?

No, I posted a response regarding Zionist myths. The source documentation supports the myths John Rose lists, e.g. the Zionist myth that claimed that Palestine was uninhabited. The indisputable fact is that Palestine was inhabited by Christians and Muslims prior to the European settlement by Jews.

What about the Jews that lived in Palestine, and had done for 3,200 years before the muslims did and 2,500 years before the Christians did ?

There were only a handful of Jews in Palestine before the European Jews starting settling their. They were Arab Jews. They spoke Arabic and were well integrated in the Palestinian society. No Christian or Muslim had any problem with the local Jews.

"The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[Mindful]

8216 Palestinian 8217 History 101 This is going to be a short class since they don 8217 t have any

 

[MJB12741]

Some more Hasbara propaganda: But as usual, source documentation shows that it is propaganda. The Palestinians were calling themselves Palestinian people at least in 1921 as this source document, a letter from the Palestinian Delegation to London (note the name), shows:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON ​

"........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

And the first thing we read s this

PUBLISHED BY HIS MAJESTY'S STATIONERY OFFICE.

So not a source document at all

LOL! Monte & his unbiased documented sources. Oh Lord I love to see his funny posts.

 

[montelatici]

You are the hilarious one. When you see source documentation that is unimpeachable evidence that all you post is propaganda, you deflect by posting a silly comment. You have no other retort. It's just too hilariious.

 

[montelatici]

8216 Palestinian 8217 History 101 This is going to be a short class since they don 8217 t have any

Another propaganda blog being used to contradict facts from source documentation. Do you think posting propaganda does your cause any good?

 

[Mindful]

8216 Palestinian 8217 History 101 This is going to be a short class since they don 8217 t have any

Another propaganda blog being used to contradict facts from source documentation. Do you think posting propaganda does your cause any good?

What cause is that?

 

[montelatici]

8216 Palestinian 8217 History 101 This is going to be a short class since they don 8217 t have any

Another propaganda blog being used to contradict facts from source documentation. Do you think posting propaganda does your cause any good?

What cause is that?

To deligitimatize the rights of the Christians and Muslims of Palestine and rationalize the settlement of their land by Europeans.

 

[Mindful]

8216 Palestinian 8217 History 101 This is going to be a short class since they don 8217 t have any

Another propaganda blog being used to contradict facts from source documentation. Do you think posting propaganda does your cause any good?

What cause is that?

To deligitimatize the rights of the Christians and Muslims of Palestine and rationalize the settlement of their land by Europeans.

Muslims in Israel are doing very well.

 

[montelatici]

Non-whites in the

8216 Palestinian 8217 History 101 This is going to be a short class since they don 8217 t have any

Another propaganda blog being used to contradict facts from source documentation. Do you think posting propaganda does your cause any good?

What cause is that?

To deligitimatize the rights of the Christians and Muslims of Palestine and rationalize the settlement of their land by Europeans.

Muslims in Israel are doing very well.

Some non-whites under Apartheid South Africa control did quite well too.