Who Are The Palestinians?

[montelatici]

Some more Hasbara propaganda: But as usual, source documentation shows that it is propaganda. The Palestinians were calling themselves Palestinian people at least in 1921 as this source document, a letter from the Palestinian Delegation to London (note the name), shows:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON ​

"........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

I can almost predict, to the letter, what you are going to say on this thread. It's a given.

I've heard it all before.

Where did you say your training ground is?

Rutgers University. We had access to the source documentation. That is, we had access to the facts. You post propaganda.

No. You do. Because you have a fevered agenda.

Facts are not an agenda.

 

[Mindful]

Some more Hasbara propaganda: But as usual, source documentation shows that it is propaganda. The Palestinians were calling themselves Palestinian people at least in 1921 as this source document, a letter from the Palestinian Delegation to London (note the name), shows:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON ​

"........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

I can almost predict, to the letter, what you are going to say on this thread. It's a given.

I've heard it all before.

Where did you say your training ground is?

Rutgers University. We had access to the source documentation. That is, we had access to the facts. You post propaganda.

No. You do. Because you have a fevered agenda.

Facts are not an agenda.

You are though.

 

[MJB12741]

Some more Hasbara propaganda: But as usual, source documentation shows that it is propaganda. The Palestinians were calling themselves Palestinian people at least in 1921 as this source document, a letter from the Palestinian Delegation to London (note the name), shows:

PALESTINE. CORRESPONDENCE WITH THE PALESTINE ARAB DELEGATION AND THE ZIONIST ORGANISATION.
Presented to Parliament by Command of His Majesty. JUNE, 1922. LONDON ​

"........Whilst the position in Palestine is, as it stands to-day, with the British Government holding authority by an occupying force, and using that authority to impose upon the people against their wishes a great immigration of alien Jews, many of them of a Bolshevik revolutionary type, no constitution which would fall short of giving the People of Palestine full control of their own affairs could be acceptable. If the British Government would revise their present policy in Palestine, end the Zionist con-dominium, put a stop to all alien immigration and grant the People of Palestine — who by Right and Experience are the best judges of what is good and bad to their country — Executive and Legislative powers, the terms of a constitution could be discussed in a different atmosphere. If to-day the People of Palestine assented to any constitution which fell short of giving them full control of their own affairs they would be in the position of agreeing to an instrument of Government which might, and probably would, be used to smother their national life under a flood of alien immigration. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

I can almost predict, to the letter, what you are going to say on this thread. It's a given.

I've heard it all before.

Where did you say your training ground is?

Rutgers University. We had access to the source documentation. That is, we had access to the facts. You post propaganda.

Hey Monte, tell us the facts on Israel's GENOCIDE of the Palestinian people.

 

[montelatici]

Do you know what the definition of Genocide is? I think not.

Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide (For full text click here)
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Israel has committed (a), (b), and (c), against the Palestinians.

 

[Hossfly]

I think we have some Arabs here who resent the fact that there are Jewish leaders in one tiny part of the Middle East. They want it all, and the Jews should be the dhimmis.

The Holy Land The Arabs in the Holy Land - Natives or Aliens

I don't agree with you at all........Name those Arab Leaders.......steve

You must have been asleep, Steve, plus you are not important that I care or many others here care one way or the other whether you believe it or not. The Arab leaders themselves have said there was no Palestine. Say, how about your own country. I was reading that the Shiites are coming in hordes because of the Sunnis suicide and car bombing all the times. Maybe you can get busy and help them to assimilate.

Hoss,...Again what Arab Leaders and when........try to concentrate..!!!!!!!!!.....Well Australia welcomes many people to our Paradise.....I don't know about "Hordes" what I do know that the Iraqis and Afghans that helped our military certainly have been welcomed here,if others are coming,like Americans,Asians and Europeans and South Americans....of course we will assimilate them as we do with everyone that comes to this land.....steve...Hoss let me know who the Arab leaders were.

The list of Arab leaders has been posted many times the past couple of years. Try to keep up, Bunky.

Please remind me Hoss.....it can't be that hard ? can it? anyhow how come you are being a bit bitchy today..Bunkysteve.....has a nice ring to it.Hoss..I LIKE IT LOL

You always sound bitchy yourself, Steve, calling people who have a different viewpoint from yours as morons or idiots. Speaking of psychiatrists which you brought up in response to Toastman's post, what has your therapist suggested for you lately?

 

[MJB12741]

Do you know what the definition of Genocide is? I think not.

Excerpt from the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of Genocide (For full text click here)
"Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.


Israel has committed (a), (b), and (c), against the Palestinians.

Oh now I get it. You see you Zionists the Palestinians have not commited A, B & C GENOCIDE on the Israeli's. Right Monte.

 

[Phoenall]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

Jesus Christ

Yes, he was a Jew.

Always thought he was a Palestinian who tried to reform the Temple Judaism cult in Jerusalem, assuming he existed at all

He was back when arab muslims did not exist, and Palestinian was reserved for the Jews only

 

[Phoenall]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

The more you post the more INSANE you become........I don't believe this flag is real because the Jews would Never use the Yellow Star of David.....the very colour and markings the Nazis painted on the shops and people of the Jewish faith......this post is disgusting for all the Jews that perished and those who survived at the hands of the EVIL Nazis........You really are as Mad as a Cut Snake....putting it mildly...steven

1939 Palestinian Flag What Does It Look Like Surprised - YouTube

Don't be silly Hoss this flag was the Jewish Flag of all those Illegal Jewish Immigrants......this was never the flag of the Palestinian people at all....good try though......I note the book you used was by "Simmonds" another Rabid Zionist.........this post demeans your intelligence.steve

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the Ottoman muslims invite the Jews to settle and work the land of Palestine, then the LoN who owned the land next did the same thing. So how are the Jews Illegal Immigrants when they had an open invite to migrate to Palestine. Surely it was the arab muslims that turned up uninvited that are the illegal immigrants.

 

[Phoenall]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

Jesus Christ

Yes, he was a Jew.

Shame the Scribes/Jews didn't think so at the time

A bit like the muslims who don't see Ahmadi's as muslims, even though the use the same Koran. Or the shia muslims and the sunni muslims who say they are the only true followers of allah. Well Jesus was a Pharisee Jew who preached peace and harmony, much to the dismay of the Rabbis of the time who held power over Judaism.

 

[Challenger]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

Jesus Christ

Yes, he was a Jew.

Always thought he was a Palestinian who tried to reform the Temple Judaism cult in Jerusalem, assuming he existed at all

He was back when arab muslims did not exist, and Palestinian was reserved for the Jews only

More Phoney baloney. Palestine has always been composed of many tribal groups; "The Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians and the Amorites." to name but a few.

 

[Challenger]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

The more you post the more INSANE you become........I don't believe this flag is real because the Jews would Never use the Yellow Star of David.....the very colour and markings the Nazis painted on the shops and people of the Jewish faith......this post is disgusting for all the Jews that perished and those who survived at the hands of the EVIL Nazis........You really are as Mad as a Cut Snake....putting it mildly...steven

1939 Palestinian Flag What Does It Look Like Surprised - YouTube

Don't be silly Hoss this flag was the Jewish Flag of all those Illegal Jewish Immigrants......this was never the flag of the Palestinian people at all....good try though......I note the book you used was by "Simmonds" another Rabid Zionist.........this post demeans your intelligence.steve

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the Ottoman muslims invite the Jews to settle and work the land of Palestine, then the LoN who owned the land next did the same thing. So how are the Jews Illegal Immigrants when they had an open invite to migrate to Palestine. Surely it was the arab muslims that turned up uninvited that are the illegal immigrants.

Show me the invite.

 

[Phoenall]

There were only a handful of Jews in Palestine prior to the arrival of the land thieving European Jews. Why do you constantly lie?



Source documentation:

"AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921."​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Written by a committee so not a source document, want to try again. And this has been debunked by earlier reports and by the British census. Of course there was also the Ottoman census that showed a different picture along with the Ottoman histories.

 

[Phoenall]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

Jesus Christ

Yes, he was a Jew.

Always thought he was a Palestinian who tried to reform the Temple Judaism cult in Jerusalem, assuming he existed at all

He was back when arab muslims did not exist, and Palestinian was reserved for the Jews only

More Phoney baloney. Palestine has always been composed of many tribal groups; "The Canaanites, the Hittites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Egyptians and the Amorites." to name but a few.

But only one group was named Palestinian until 1960 when Arafat the boy lover stole the name because he did not have any other to call the arab muslims. Or do you still think that arab muslims were living in Jerusalem when the Romans invaded ?

 

[Phoenall]

The flag of Palestine, 1939.

The more you post the more INSANE you become........I don't believe this flag is real because the Jews would Never use the Yellow Star of David.....the very colour and markings the Nazis painted on the shops and people of the Jewish faith......this post is disgusting for all the Jews that perished and those who survived at the hands of the EVIL Nazis........You really are as Mad as a Cut Snake....putting it mildly...steven

1939 Palestinian Flag What Does It Look Like Surprised - YouTube

Don't be silly Hoss this flag was the Jewish Flag of all those Illegal Jewish Immigrants......this was never the flag of the Palestinian people at all....good try though......I note the book you used was by "Simmonds" another Rabid Zionist.........this post demeans your intelligence.steve

Correct me if I am wrong but didn't the Ottoman muslims invite the Jews to settle and work the land of Palestine, then the LoN who owned the land next did the same thing. So how are the Jews Illegal Immigrants when they had an open invite to migrate to Palestine. Surely it was the arab muslims that turned up uninvited that are the illegal immigrants.

Show me the invite.

You mean this one

Modern History Sourcebook League of Nations The Mandate for Palestine July 24 1922

ARTICLE 6. The Administration of Palestine, while ensuring that the rights and position of other sections of the population are not prejudiced, shall facilitate Jewish immigration under suitable conditions and shall encourage, in cooperation with the Jewish agency referred to in Article 4, close settlement by Jews on the land, including State lands and waste lands not required for public purposes.

 

[Phoenall]

There were only a handful of Jews in Palestine prior to the arrival of the land thieving European Jews. Why do you constantly lie?

Oh now I get it. So prior to 1850 the Palestinians were Muslims. And Iz'll bet ya not a single Zion isy knew that.


Source documentation:

"AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921."​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Oh now I get it. So prior to 1850 the Palestinians were Muslims. And I'll bet ya not a single Zionist knew that. Keep up yoiur good work on educating all of us with your fine documentation.

Seriously, most of what Monte posts is so funny.

Just facts from source documentation. All you do is run your mouth pathologically lying. But as the source documents state, prior to 1850 Palestinians were Muslim and Christian.

Told you before if a work is edited by another person then it is no longer a source document. It becomes an extension of the editors POV

 

[Phoenall]

Well yes, most Palestinians received Jordanian citizenship.

"More than 2 million registered Palestine refugees live in Jordan.

Most Palestine refugees in Jordan, but not all, have full citizenship."

Where We Work UNRWA

50,000 were mown down by machine gun fire, mostly women and children while caged in the concentration camps. Another 2 million had their citizenship removed and their protection removed as well when they were thrown to the dogs. This is how Muslims treat terrorists and you don't say a word about this treatment do you.

So true how the surrounding Arab countries massacred their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & left tens of thousands of others as refugees. But let us not forget what those Zionists in Israel have also done to them with their damn peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to piss off the Palestinians thus making this an endless conflict.

Silly Prick......I really believe that all you Zionists are totally brainwashed in Zionist Mantra Trash......I would like a world authority to medically examine you Zionists......they will no doubt find you Madder than ISIS at least they admit their atrosities sic...where as you lie through your teeth or blame others...sick bastards arn't you

but we all know the truth how Zionist Scum,Murdered,Maimed,Exiled and tried to ELIMINATE the Palestinians up until today.You carry collective GUILT........We have NO RESPECT at all for Zionists Terrorists,as they are wastrels of the worst degree.......and like theTerrorists they are,should be eliminated along with ISIS ect and all the other Mad Bastards worldwide..............Stop spewing your Zionist shit on here

I believe you have Zionist fever that makes you attribute the work of arab muslims to innocent Jews. If the Jews were doing all this then surely we would have seen a decrease in the numbers of Palestinians by now, not a substantial increase.

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Laila El Haddad

ISLAMONAZI LIES and PROPAGANDA from an ISLAMONAZI LIAR and PROPAGANDIST

 

[Phoenall]

Well yes, most Palestinians received Jordanian citizenship.

"More than 2 million registered Palestine refugees live in Jordan.

Most Palestine refugees in Jordan, but not all, have full citizenship."

Where We Work UNRWA

50,000 were mown down by machine gun fire, mostly women and children while caged in the concentration camps. Another 2 million had their citizenship removed and their protection removed as well when they were thrown to the dogs. This is how Muslims treat terrorists and you don't say a word about this treatment do you.

So true how the surrounding Arab countries massacred their Palestinians by the tens of thousands & left tens of thousands of others as refugees. But let us not forget what those Zionists in Israel have also done to them with their damn peace offerings, security fence & land concessions to piss off the Palestinians thus making this an endless conflict.

Silly Prick......I really believe that all you Zionists are totally brainwashed in Zionist Mantra Trash......I would like a world authority to medically examine you Zionists......they will no doubt find you Madder than ISIS at least they admit their atrosities sic...where as you lie through your teeth or blame others...sick bastards arn't you

but we all know the truth how Zionist Scum,Murdered,Maimed,Exiled and tried to ELIMINATE the Palestinians up until today.You carry collective GUILT........We have NO RESPECT at all for Zionists Terrorists,as they are wastrels of the worst degree.......and like theTerrorists they are,should be eliminated along with ISIS ect and all the other Mad Bastards worldwide..............Stop spewing your Zionist shit on here

WTF is wrong with you ?? I mean seriously ??? All you do is post lies and demented crap.

Now that's funny. The whole Zionist myth is a lie, and you are one of the propagators.

What Zionist myth, and how about a link to a Zionist source proving this mythological myth

 

[Phoenall]

Hmmm. That's like kind of like Putin saying Russia owns Ukraine. Wonderful analogy.

Jordan did annexe the west bank in 1948, and the Palestinians agreed to it. Then he cast them adrift after the failed coup by Arafat to steal all of Jordan, not before putting 50,000 to the sword as an object lesson. Think about it Abdul 50,000 men, women and children mown down by machine guns while they were trapped inside barbed wire death camps. And not a Jew in sight to blame.

 

[Phoenall]

I've forgotten more than you will ever learn in a lifetime, son.

One thing you have not learnt is how to differentiate gender, could lead to confusion any time soon.