Who Are The Palestinians?

[P F Tinmore]

Horsecrap!

Abbas is going onto his tenth year of a four year term and they are farther away from peace than they were back then. What has he done besides watch Israel eat up the West Bank?

Why he's building up a monsterous bank account and a villa in Sharm el-Sheikh. Didn't you know?

Indeed, he is an oligarch.

Hey, don't get so upset. We agree . We both want Hamas to fill Arafat's shoes in leading the Palestinians. Arafat took the Palestinians from the toilet to the sewer, got them massacred over & over again by their own Arab brothers, embezzled their money & left them living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State. Lets face it, Abbas could never fill Arafat's shoes. Long live Hamas.

Arafat was an oligarch too.

The first thing Hamas did after they were elected was to call for a truce.

Did they or did they call for truce well before the elections

Hamas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won a decisive majority in the Palestinian Parliament,[42] defeating the PLO-affiliated Fatah party. Following the elections, the Quartet (the United States, Russia, United Nations and European Union) made future foreign assistance to the PA conditional upon the future government's commitment to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements. Hamas rejected those changes, which led to the Quartet suspending its foreign assistance program and Israel imposing economic sanctions on the Hamas-led administration.[43][44] In March 2007, a national unity government headed by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas was briefly formed, but this failed to restart international financial assistance.[45] Tensions over control of Palestinian security forces soon erupted in the 2007 Battle of Gaza,[45] after which Hamas took control of Gaza, while its officials were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[45] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade of the Gaza Strip, on the grounds that Fatah forces were no longer providing security there.

Key point. Fatah lost the elections and were no longer the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

It is the Palestinian Authority that is responsible for security not the losers of the elections.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Horsecrap!

Abbas is going onto his tenth year of a four year term and they are farther away from peace than they were back then. What has he done besides watch Israel eat up the West Bank?

Why he's building up a monsterous bank account and a villa in Sharm el-Sheikh. Didn't you know?

Indeed, he is an oligarch.

Hey, don't get so upset. We agree . We both want Hamas to fill Arafat's shoes in leading the Palestinians. Arafat took the Palestinians from the toilet to the sewer, got them massacred over & over again by their own Arab brothers, embezzled their money & left them living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State. Lets face it, Abbas could never fill Arafat's shoes. Long live Hamas.

Arafat was an oligarch too.

The first thing Hamas did after they were elected was to call for a truce.

Did they or did they call for truce well before the elections

Hamas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won a decisive majority in the Palestinian Parliament,[42] defeating the PLO-affiliated Fatah party. Following the elections, the Quartet (the United States, Russia, United Nations and European Union) made future foreign assistance to the PA conditional upon the future government's commitment to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements. Hamas rejected those changes, which led to the Quartet suspending its foreign assistance program and Israel imposing economic sanctions on the Hamas-led administration.[43][44] In March 2007, a national unity government headed by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas was briefly formed, but this failed to restart international financial assistance.[45] Tensions over control of Palestinian security forces soon erupted in the 2007 Battle of Gaza,[45] after which Hamas took control of Gaza, while its officials were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[45] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade of the Gaza Strip, on the grounds that Fatah forces were no longer providing security there.

From your link:

In March 2006, Hamas released its official legislative program. The document clearly signaled that Hamas could refer the issue of recognizing Israel to a national referendum. Under the heading "Recognition of Israel," it stated simply (AFP, 3/11/06): "The question of recognizing Israel is not the jurisdiction of one faction, nor the government, but a decision for the Palestinian people." This was a major shift away from their 1988 charter.[74] A few months later, via University of Maryland's Jerome Segal, the group sent a letter to U.S. President George W. Bush stating they "don't mind having a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders", and asked for direct negotiations: "Segal emphasized that a state within the 1967 borders and a truce for many years could be considered Hamas' de facto recognition of Israel."[75]​

 

[P F Tinmore]

Seriously, he bases his tirade on false information.

You mean the truth that you don't like so claim it is false, what does he say that is false and can you prove using non partisan links that it is false

What is false is false. What I like has nothing to do with it.

What he says:

Yes, the tragedy of the Palestinians isn't that they are victims of injustice at the hands of the Israelis. It is their own tendency to destroy themselves from within.​

He claims an internal division that does not exist.

It's true. The Palestinian leadership is a failure, and the activists who lead the hatred against Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas (who is a moderate Palestinian like myself) and against anyone who dares to challenge their fanaticism are the primary causes of this failure.​

He should know that Abbas left the government in June of 2007. Abbas is the division. The rest of the Palestinians are pretty much on the same page.

So no evidence defend your claims now why don't we find that strange

Sure, I guess the chronically uninformed/misinformed would not know, so here.



Abbas had the authority to change the government by appointing a new PM and cabinet but he did not follow constitutional procedures. Instead, he left the government, and with the help of the US and Israel he set up an illegal government in the West Bank.

This appointment has been challenged as illegal, because while the Palestinian Basic Law permits the president to dismiss a sitting prime minister, the appointment of a replacement requires the approval of the Legislative Council. The law provides that after removal of the prime minister (in this case, Ismail Haniyeh), the outgoing prime minister heads a caretaker government. The current Legislative Council, in which Hamas holds a majority of seats, has not approved the appointments of Fayyad or the balance of his new government. Fayyad's appointment was never placed before, or approved by it.[12] Haniyeh continues to operate as prime minister in Gaza, and is recognized by a large number of Palestinians as the legitimate acting prime minister. Anis al-Qasem, a constitutional lawyer who drafted the Basic Law, is among those who publicly declared the appointment of Fayyad to be illegal.[13]

Salam Fayyad - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

This is what was reported in the Canadian news cast.

What is false is false. What I like has nothing to do with it.

What he says:

Yes, the tragedy of the Palestinians isn't that they are victims of injustice at the hands of the Israelis. It is their own tendency to destroy themselves from within.​

He claims an internal division that does not exist.

It's true. The Palestinian leadership is a failure, and the activists who lead the hatred against Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas (who is a moderate Palestinian like myself) and against anyone who dares to challenge their fanaticism are the primary causes of this failure.​

He should know that Abbas left the government in June of 2007. Abbas is the division. The rest of the Palestinians are pretty much on the same page.

So no evidence defend your claims now why don't we find that strange

Sure, I guess the chronically uninformed/misinformed would not know, so here.



Abbas had the authority to change the government by appointing a new PM and cabinet but he did not follow constitutional procedures. Instead, he left the government, and with the help of the US and Israel he set up an illegal government in the West Bank.

This appointment has been challenged as illegal, because while the Palestinian Basic Law permits the president to dismiss a sitting prime minister, the appointment of a replacement requires the approval of the Legislative Council. The law provides that after removal of the prime minister (in this case, Ismail Haniyeh), the outgoing prime minister heads a caretaker government. The current Legislative Council, in which Hamas holds a majority of seats, has not approved the appointments of Fayyad or the balance of his new government. Fayyad's appointment was never placed before, or approved by it.[12] Haniyeh continues to operate as prime minister in Gaza, and is recognized by a large number of Palestinians as the legitimate acting prime minister. Anis al-Qasem, a constitutional lawyer who drafted the Basic Law, is among those who publicly declared the appointment of Fayyad to be illegal.[13]

Salam Fayyad - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

This is what was reported in the Canadian news cast

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Most important is that the Palestinians get rid of Abbas. With him as their leader the Palestinians can prosper living in peace & prosperity with Israel. A threat to the security of Israel. Whereas with Hamas, the Palestinians will continue living in ignorance & poverty. Better for Israel & who can rightfully feel sorry for the Palestinians who they themselves elected Hamas to govern them?

Most importnt

Horsecrap!

Abbas is going onto his tenth year of a four year term and they are farther away from peace than they were back then. What has he done besides watch Israel eat up the West Bank?

Then why hasn't hamas called for a new election as the ruling majority, it is after all that simple a matter. The fact that most live outside Palestine and could easily call an EGM to put forward the date of the new election and if they have over 51% of the sitting members they don't need fatah to approve of the outcome.

Good question. It is the president who calls for elections. Abbas left the government in 2007. The constitutional procedure is for the speaker of parliament to temporarily assume the office of the president and call for elections within 60 days.

Abbas, with the help of the US and Israel, has not allowed that procedure to move forward.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Dr Mustafa Barghouti

 

[docmauser1]

Who are the Palestinians? Dr Mustafa Barghouti

Palistanians are a collection of mideastern arabs, who left their respective homelands dreaming of getting their "fair share" of the jewish development, of course.

 

[Phoenall]

Why he's building up a monsterous bank account and a villa in Sharm el-Sheikh. Didn't you know?

Indeed, he is an oligarch.

Hey, don't get so upset. We agree . We both want Hamas to fill Arafat's shoes in leading the Palestinians. Arafat took the Palestinians from the toilet to the sewer, got them massacred over & over again by their own Arab brothers, embezzled their money & left them living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State. Lets face it, Abbas could never fill Arafat's shoes. Long live Hamas.

Arafat was an oligarch too.

The first thing Hamas did after they were elected was to call for a truce.

Did they or did they call for truce well before the elections

Hamas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won a decisive majority in the Palestinian Parliament,[42] defeating the PLO-affiliated Fatah party. Following the elections, the Quartet (the United States, Russia, United Nations and European Union) made future foreign assistance to the PA conditional upon the future government's commitment to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements. Hamas rejected those changes, which led to the Quartet suspending its foreign assistance program and Israel imposing economic sanctions on the Hamas-led administration.[43][44] In March 2007, a national unity government headed by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas was briefly formed, but this failed to restart international financial assistance.[45] Tensions over control of Palestinian security forces soon erupted in the 2007 Battle of Gaza,[45] after which Hamas took control of Gaza, while its officials were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[45] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade of the Gaza Strip, on the grounds that Fatah forces were no longer providing security there.

Key point. Fatah lost the elections and were no longer the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

It is the Palestinian Authority that is responsible for security not the losers of the elections.

Which makesd it hamas's responsabilty seeing as they are the majority group in the P.A., but hamas refused toi take up that mantle so fatah had to do it instead. In fact hamas has done nothing that a true leadership should do plunging the palestinians into greater deprivation and poverty.

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Dr Mustafa Barghouti

Just more ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDA, denying the facts and blaming Israel. Can you show were the ceasefire says that Israel can not fly its planes along the border ?

 

[MJB12741]

Why he's building up a monsterous bank account and a villa in Sharm el-Sheikh. Didn't you know?

Indeed, he is an oligarch.

Hey, don't get so upset. We agree . We both want Hamas to fill Arafat's shoes in leading the Palestinians. Arafat took the Palestinians from the toilet to the sewer, got them massacred over & over again by their own Arab brothers, embezzled their money & left them living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State. Lets face it, Abbas could never fill Arafat's shoes. Long live Hamas.

Arafat was an oligarch too.

The first thing Hamas did after they were elected was to call for a truce.

Did they or did they call for truce well before the elections

Hamas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won a decisive majority in the Palestinian Parliament,[42] defeating the PLO-affiliated Fatah party. Following the elections, the Quartet (the United States, Russia, United Nations and European Union) made future foreign assistance to the PA conditional upon the future government's commitment to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements. Hamas rejected those changes, which led to the Quartet suspending its foreign assistance program and Israel imposing economic sanctions on the Hamas-led administration.[43][44] In March 2007, a national unity government headed by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas was briefly formed, but this failed to restart international financial assistance.[45] Tensions over control of Palestinian security forces soon erupted in the 2007 Battle of Gaza,[45] after which Hamas took control of Gaza, while its officials were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[45] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade of the Gaza Strip, on the grounds that Fatah forces were no longer providing security there.

Key point. Fatah lost the elections and were no longer the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

It is the Palestinian Authority that is responsible for security not the losers of the elections.

What right does Abbas & his damn Fatah party have to even interfere? We need Hamas in full control to insure ignorance & poverty & death for the Palestinians with no hope for a Palestinian State.

 

[aris2chat]

Indeed, he is an oligarch.

Hey, don't get so upset. We agree . We both want Hamas to fill Arafat's shoes in leading the Palestinians. Arafat took the Palestinians from the toilet to the sewer, got them massacred over & over again by their own Arab brothers, embezzled their money & left them living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State. Lets face it, Abbas could never fill Arafat's shoes. Long live Hamas.

Arafat was an oligarch too.

The first thing Hamas did after they were elected was to call for a truce.

Did they or did they call for truce well before the elections

Hamas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won a decisive majority in the Palestinian Parliament,[42] defeating the PLO-affiliated Fatah party. Following the elections, the Quartet (the United States, Russia, United Nations and European Union) made future foreign assistance to the PA conditional upon the future government's commitment to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements. Hamas rejected those changes, which led to the Quartet suspending its foreign assistance program and Israel imposing economic sanctions on the Hamas-led administration.[43][44] In March 2007, a national unity government headed by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas was briefly formed, but this failed to restart international financial assistance.[45] Tensions over control of Palestinian security forces soon erupted in the 2007 Battle of Gaza,[45] after which Hamas took control of Gaza, while its officials were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[45] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade of the Gaza Strip, on the grounds that Fatah forces were no longer providing security there.

Key point. Fatah lost the elections and were no longer the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

It is the Palestinian Authority that is responsible for security not the losers of the elections.

What right does Abbas & his damn Fatah party have to even interfere? We need Hamas in full control to insure ignorance & poverty & death for the Palestinians with no hope for a Palestinian State.

If abbas goes to the UN and there is support, Israel will annex parts of the WB. The so called palestinian state that abbas wants will be what they control now, not the whole area of the WB. Hamas is not part of the PA as far as they are concerned, they try to discuss a unity government but then it falls apart. They cannot agree. There are moves by hamas to have abbas impeached from office if he does try to go to the UN on his own. Hamas does not want a UN vote. In the end the more angry and suffering the palestinians the greater the chance they will turn to hamas and away from the PLO.

 

[MJB12741]

Hey, don't get so upset. We agree . We both want Hamas to fill Arafat's shoes in leading the Palestinians. Arafat took the Palestinians from the toilet to the sewer, got them massacred over & over again by their own Arab brothers, embezzled their money & left them living in ignorance & poverty with no hope for a Palestinian State. Lets face it, Abbas could never fill Arafat's shoes. Long live Hamas.

Arafat was an oligarch too.

The first thing Hamas did after they were elected was to call for a truce.

Did they or did they call for truce well before the elections

Hamas - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

In the January 2006 Palestinian parliamentary elections, Hamas won a decisive majority in the Palestinian Parliament,[42] defeating the PLO-affiliated Fatah party. Following the elections, the Quartet (the United States, Russia, United Nations and European Union) made future foreign assistance to the PA conditional upon the future government's commitment to non-violence, recognition of the state of Israel, and acceptance of previous agreements. Hamas rejected those changes, which led to the Quartet suspending its foreign assistance program and Israel imposing economic sanctions on the Hamas-led administration.[43][44] In March 2007, a national unity government headed by Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh of Hamas was briefly formed, but this failed to restart international financial assistance.[45] Tensions over control of Palestinian security forces soon erupted in the 2007 Battle of Gaza,[45] after which Hamas took control of Gaza, while its officials were ousted from government positions in the West Bank.[45] Israel and Egypt then imposed an economic blockade of the Gaza Strip, on the grounds that Fatah forces were no longer providing security there.

Key point. Fatah lost the elections and were no longer the majority party in the Palestinian Authority.

It is the Palestinian Authority that is responsible for security not the losers of the elections.

What right does Abbas & his damn Fatah party have to even interfere? We need Hamas in full control to insure ignorance & poverty & death for the Palestinians with no hope for a Palestinian State.

If abbas goes to the UN and there is support, Israel will annex parts of the WB. The so called palestinian state that abbas wants will be what they control now, not the whole area of the WB. Hamas is not part of the PA as far as they are concerned, they try to discuss a unity government but then it falls apart. They cannot agree. There are moves by hamas to have abbas impeached from office if he does try to go to the UN on his own. Hamas does not want a UN vote. In the end the more angry and suffering the palestinians the greater the chance they will turn to hamas and away from the PLO.

Abbas & his Fatah party is a thorn on Israel to meet endless Palestinian demands. With Hamas in sole goverment of the Palis, all that is over. Bye bye Abbas. LONG LIVE HAMAS!

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Nadia Hijab

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Palestinians?

Nadia Hijab

The name says it all

 

[MJB12741]

Who Are The Palestinians? Latest from Hamas: Are they Palestinians???

Hamas bars Gaza children from Israel trip - Yahoo News

 

[MJB12741]

Are these Palestinians?

http://commentisfreewatch.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/al-aqsa_martyrs_brigade.jpg

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Laila El-Haddad, Dr. Rafeef Ziadeh, Mohamed Zeyara

 

[MJB12741]

Once again history has proven that Palestinians will be Palestinians.

Photos Palestinians Celebrate Hand Out Candy After Synagogue Terror Attack TheBlaze.com

 

[P F Tinmore]

Who are the Palestinians?

Shireen Said of the PFLP

But the recent 42nd anniversary rally of the PFLP in Gaza that attracted some 70,000 people raised the profile of the Palestinian revolutionary left and also of the role of women when one young woman called Shireen Said of the PFLP stood on stage giving a salute in military fatigues and was co-chair of the rally alongside her male comrade and co-chair of the PFLP rally. In an interview with the writer Said explained a little about her background, stating that she was born in 1985 Jabalya refugee camp, from which the ‘children of the stones’ started the first Intifada, “my childhood memories are mostly of the first Intifada” she explains. In her early teens she became involved in one of the student movements associated with the PFLP.

Said explains further about herself, “I studied my Bachelor in Sport at Al-Aqsa University. I worked at Progressive Student Labour Front with lots of comrades until I got the position of secretary at the students union. I was the first young woman in Gaza to get this position via democratic elections at the university. After my graduation I worked in the committees of the Union of Palestinian Women which is part of a progressive feminist struggle for women’s liberation and to bring them together and on an equal footing with men in all fields of national and democratic reform. Along with my professional work in many non-governmental organizations as an activist in youth issues, I am now a board member of the Palestinian Progressive Youth Union and I study my Masters in Education at Al-Azhar University.”

Palestinian Revolutionaries on International Women s Day

 

[MJB12741]

Who are the Palestinians?

On This Day Palestinian Terrorists Kill Israeli Athletes in Munich Massacre

 

[Mindful]

The Ethnic Cleansing of Jesus.


The birth and life of Jesus has been hijacked by the Palestinian movement, which seeks to portray Jesus as a Palestinian, writes this Noahide Christian. This effort is often referred to as Christian Palestinianism.

The Ethnic Cleansing of Jesus - Op-Eds - Arutz Sheva

 

[Mindful]

We’re like Nazis huh: Israel sends 778 trucks packed with goods into Gaza despite continued rocket fire, the Tazpit News Agency reported.


We 8217 re like Nazis huh Israel sends 778 trucks packed with goods into Gaza despite continued rocket fire