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montelatici, et al,

Customary and Statutory International Humanitarian Law (IHL) is never written with one nation in mind --- or (for or against) any single nation in particular. It is written for all nations everywhere; applicable all the time, in every dispute (international and non-international) that threaten peace and security. In this particular commentary, you've asked a complex question involving both an allegation and an accusatory statement:
  • "[Y]ou claim that under this mythical International Law, ---- condones the murder of women and children by the Israelis."
  • "Is this International Law of yours written especially for Jews and gives them the right to murder as long as the victims are non-Jews?"
In this case, all that follows is applicable equally to both the Israelis and the Palestinians; as the principle parties to the conflict.

I see, Hamas did the bombing of Gaza. And, you claim that under this mythical International Law, which you rewrite as you please, condones the murder of women and children by the Israelis. Is this International Law of yours written especially for Jews and gives them the right to murder as long as the victims are non-Jews?

By the way, can you mention one, just one instance of a libel against Israel. I just deal in facts. Of the over 2,000 Palestinians (Christians and Muslims) killed by the Israelis in Gaza this summer, over 1,500 were civilians and over a thousand were women and children. Fact.

(OBSERATATIONS & REFERENCES)

Rule 1. The Principle of Distinction between Civilians and Combatants Customary and Statutory International Humanitarian Law (IHL)
The parties to the conflict must at all times distinguish between civilians and combatants. Attacks may only be directed against combatants. Attacks must not be directed against civilians.
Rule 5. Definition of Civilians Customary and Statutory International Humanitarian Law (IHL)
Civilians are persons who are not members of the armed forces. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians.​

Ibrahim Kreisheh, the Palestinian delegate to the UN Human Rights Council, stated: “The missiles that are now being launched against Israel, each and every missile constitutes a crime against humanity, whether it hits or missed, because it is directed at civilian targets… Therefore, targeting civilians, be it one civilian or a thousand, is considered a crime against humanity.” PUBLISHED July 13th 2014
Rule 7. The Principle of Distinction between Civilian Objects and Military Objectives Customary and Statutory International Humanitarian Law (IHL)
The parties to the conflict must at all times distinguish between civilian objects and military objectives. Attacks may only be directed against military objectives. Attacks must not be directed against civilian objects.​

Article 50 --- Definition of civilians and civilian population Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions

  • 1. A civilian is any person who does not belong to one of the categories of persons referred to in Article 4 A (1), (2), (3) and (6) of the Third Convention and in Article 43 of this Protocol. In case of doubt whether a person is a civilian, that person shall be considered to be a civilian.

    2. The civilian population comprises all persons who are civilians.

    3. The presence within the civilian population of individuals who do not come within the definition of civilians does not deprive the population of its civilian character.
Article 51 --- Protection of the civilian population Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions

1. The civilian population and individual civilians shall enjoy general protection against dangers arising from military operations. To give effect to this protection, the following rules, which are additional to other applicable rules of international law, shall be observed in all circumstances.

2. The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited.

3. Civilians shall enjoy the protection afforded by this Section, unless and for such time as they take a direct part in hostilities.

4. Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited. Indiscriminate attacks are: [ Rule 11. Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited. Rule 12. Indiscriminate attacks are those: ]

(a) those which are not directed at a specific military objective;

(b) those which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective; or

(c) those which employ a method or means of combat the effects of which cannot be limited as required by this Protocol; and consequently, in each such case, are of a nature to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction
5. Among others, the following types of attacks are to be considered as indiscriminate:

(a) an attack by bombardment by any methods or means which treats as a single military objective a number of clearly separated and distinct military objectives located in a city, town, village or other area containing a similar concentration of civilians or civilian objects; and

(b) an attack which may be expected to cause incidental loss of civilian life, injury to civilians, damage to civilian objects, or a combination thereof, which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct military advantage anticipated.

This definition of indiscriminate attacks represents an implementation of the principle of distinction and of international humanitarian law in general. Rule 12(a) is an application of the prohibition on directing attacks against civilians (see Rule 1) and the prohibition on directing attacks against civilian objects (see Rule 7), which are applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts. Rule 12(b) is also an application of the prohibition on directing attacks against civilians or against civilian objects (see Rules 1 and 7). The prohibition of weapons which are by nature indiscriminate (see Rule 71), which is applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts, is based on the definition of indiscriminate attacks contained in Rule 12(b).

State practice establishes this rule as a norm of customary international law applicable in both international and non-international armed conflicts. Weapons that are by nature indiscriminate are those that cannot be directed at a military objective or whose effects cannot be limited as required by international humanitarian law. The prohibition of such weapons is also supported by the general prohibition of indiscriminate attacks (see Rules 11–12).
Lastly, Rule 12(c) is based on the logical argument that means or methods of warfare whose effects cannot be limited as required by international humanitarian law should be prohibited. But this reasoning begs the question as to what those limitations are. Practice in this respect points to weapons whose effects are uncontrollable in time and space and are likely to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction.​

Rule 97. The use of human shields is prohibited. Customary and Statutory International Humanitarian Law (IHL)
In the context of international armed conflicts, this rule is set forth in the Third Geneva Convention (with respect to prisoners of war), the Fourth Geneva Convention (with respect to protected civilians) and Additional Protocol I (with respect to civilians in general). Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “utilizing the presence of a civilian or other protected person to render certain points, areas or military forces immune from military operations” constitutes a war crime in international armed conflicts.

Is Hamas using human shields in Gaza? The answer is complicated
By Michael Martinez, CNN
updated 8:23 AM EDT, Wed July 23, 2014
Article 7 - Crimes Against Humanity, Rome Statutes, International Criminal Court (ICC)
"Attack directed against any civilian population" means a course of conduct involving the multiple commission of acts referred to in paragraph 1 against any civilian population, pursuant to or in furtherance of a State or organizational policy to commit such attack;​

(COMMENT)


There is no law, international or otherwise, that condones or permits the murder (as your question is framed) of civilians. The prevailing thought is that violations of IHL are not due to the inadequacy of its rules. Rather, the civilian casualties stem from several conditions that occur in hostile conflict.
  • An unwillingness to respect the rules,
  • An insufficient means to enforce them,
  • An uncertainty as to their application in some circumstances,
  • A lack of awareness and understanding of the rules,
  • The purposeful use of civilians to shield potential military targets and to initiate a propaganda effort. Rule: #97.
The IHL Treaty law is extensive and covers a wide range of warfare conditions, including those that affording protection to civilians during wartime. These laws limit the permissible means and methods of warfare.

Unlike the Palestinian, the State of Israel has no political policy, war strategy, hidden agenda, covenant, charter, project or plan, to further any objective that would constitute Article 6 Genocide goals or to otherwise inflict the maximum number of casualties upon Palestinian Civilians as defined under Rule #5 or Article 50. The Israeli objective has been and continues to be the exercise of the inherent right to self-defence against the armed attack by the Palestinians against the sovereign State of Israel; a Member of the United Nations and pursuant to Chapter VII, Article 51.

The State of Israel neither promotes or glorifies the human cost in lives and the collateral damage inflicted in the same way the the Palestinians announce the "Heroic Actions" of their state sponsored terrorist components. The State of Israel goes to extraordinary lengths to give Rule 20 Advanced Warning, prior to a strike, and no attack is launched in violation of Rule 14 Proportionality --- in the knowledge that such attack will cause incidental loss of life or injury to civilians or damage to civilian objects … which would be excessive in relation to the concrete and direct overall military advantage anticipated.” Each Israeli attack has a clear and concise military objectives selected that which may be expected to cause the least danger to civilian lives and to civilian objects is set forth in Article 57(3) of Additional Protocol I, to which no relevant reservations have been made. Nearly every attack by the Israelis has some outcome to a specific military advantage:
  • Compelling Palestinian to undertake certain actions or denying Palestinian the ability to coerce or attack Israel.
  • Achieving strategic paralysis in Palestinian by targeting political leadership, command and control, strategic weapons, and critical economic nodes.
  • A strategy of wearing down the Palestinian to the point of collapse through continuous loss of personnel and material.
I hope in some small way, this gives you some idea of the intent of the Israeli, and the cost involved in the Palestinian Resistance and attacks on Israel. Unfortunately, every war has a cost in human life. And the price to the Palestinian for their Jihad is to face a military doctrine using overwhelming power to try and achieve rapid dominance over the attacking Hostile Arab Palestinian; the objectives of which is to silence Hostile Palestinian attacks.

The Israelis know that for them, the unnecessary infliction of civilian casualties is NOT to their advantage. But it is to the advantage of the Hostile Arab Palestinian leadership to sacrifice as many of their citizens as they can in order to gain what international sympathy that strategy may garner.

If there is murder involved in a planned political scale, it is on the part of the Hostile Arab Palestinian and a violation of Rule #97.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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P F Tinmore, et al,

Let's be clear, of all the people that said they witnessed the event, none actually witnessed any of the Israeli Naval vessels firing.

See the actual interview by the NBC's Reporter Ayman Mohyeldin: News Article and Video:
Why Did NBC Yank a Gaza Reporter Who Saw Children Killed on the Beach?


Who are the Palestinians?

Rula Jebreal


(COMMENT)

The NBC's Reporter Ayman Mohyeldin DID NOT SEE any firing from the Israeli Navy, he says that the shelling was consistent with naval gun fire. Everyone assumes it came from one of several naval vessels. The eye witnesses said it was coming from "the direction of the Israel Navy," but none of the news camera crews caught any firing from the Israeli Navy.

The Zionists don't want the truth to be told to Americans on U.S. media.
(COMMENT)

This event actually happened in early July. And in all the replay and talk about this one event, the "truth" has yet to come-out. There was not in-depth media exposé or report done on this event. It was all played out to be --- as if there was an eye witness that actually saw the Israelis shoot and the children fall. This is not the case at all.

It is a case of the Palestinians, with the aid of an Egyptian-American journalist based in Los Angeles for NBC News --- who previously worked for Al Jazeera, sensationalizing a tragic event. Not an uncommon occurrence for the culture of perpetual victims.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
The old Zionist denial routine, much like Holocaust denial routine.
 
montelatici, et al,

Well, the questions is:
  • Was there a witness? --- or not?
  • Was there forensic evidence? --- or not?
The old Zionist denial routine, much like Holocaust denial routine.
(COMMENT)

First, I deny nothing. I stated the facts as reported. You can watch the video yourself.

Second --- there No similarity to the between the Holocaust Denial --- where there are still living actual eye witnesses to the event and forensic evidence.

I did notice that ---- they noticed that ---- the only one that were going to investigate the event were the Israelis. Maybe it is true, that some (even the Palestinians) don't want the real truth to be told. Listen to the story as it is told.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Well, the questions is (are) sic:
  • Was there a witness? --- or not?
YES

"Witness to a shelling: first-hand account of deadly strike on Gaza port"
"It was there that the second shell hit the beach, those firing apparently adjusting their fire to target the fleeing survivors. As it exploded, journalists standing by the terrace wall shouted: "They are only children."

"Horror on Gaza Beach: New York Times Photographer Witnesses Israeli Killing of 4 Palestinian Boys"

Horror on Gaza Beach New York Times Photographer Witnesses Israeli Killing of 4 Palestinian Boys Democracy Now
  • Was there forensic evidence? --- or not?
Probably, or else the IDF would not admitted they did it.

"A top Israeli spokesman conceded the Israeli military should have been able to tell that four Palestinian boys killed on a Gaza beach while playing soccer were not terrorists."

Read more: Israel Spokesman Admits Army Should Have Spared Boys Playing Soccer on Gaza Beach Forward.com
 
Name any lie contained in my post above. Come on, one lie.

Oh be gentle on Phoney...

He's like the 'village idiot' of the forum and is best just accepted as such, give a little pat on the head and let him move along...

Once again ISLAMONAZI book of disinformation is invoked because the poster does not have an answer to the points raised.

Ah poor Phoney...

I think the onus was on YOU to prove the lies you alleged!

Looks like ANOTHER 'Phoney Phail'

Another of your ISLAMONAZI book of disinformation rules because the last two failed.

The LIES are self evident as INTERNATIONAL LAW places the blame on hamas for the deaths and not Israel as you terrorist supporting stooges claim.

Phoney, look, forums are pretty simple things, like you, and should not be that hard to follow...

Cutting all the BS, if you call someone out then back it up with an unbiased link that supports your statement...

If you can't do that then , well you end up looking like a Phoney... Oh wait.... THATS YOU!



I have produced a link that shows that hamas is fully responsible for all the deaths and should be charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. Now were is your evidence to show that hamas can not be held to blame when CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW and HUMANITARIAN LAW says they are.
 
It certainly does sound familiar. It sounds like they are talking about your Muslim brethren and what they have done and are still doing to other people. I see one of the comments was from someone who wanted to know about the Diné tribe of the Navajo Nation. There was once a Diné poster who lived in Sedona, Arizona and who was all for Israel and certainly was quite aware about what your brethren were doing. Now can you tell us, Mr. S., why are your brethren always so busy murdering others even to this day? The Native Americans of all the different Nations are certainly not acting like your own brethren.

The Native Americans took scalps until they were subjects of European genocide and ethnic cleansing. What are you talking about. They didn't give up until they were decimated. By the way, my brethren are Americans I am not a traitorous Israel Firster as you are. I am an America Firster.

The problem for the Jews is that they are unlikely to be able to do the same to the Palestinians or Muslims in general.




So you are first Nation are you, and can trace your ancestors back before the founding fathers came to America

What does that have to do with anything? Again you claimed that the post below was an "Islamonazi" lie. I challenged you to point out where I lied. And, you come up with asking me if I have Native American ancestry. Again, point out the lie in the text below for which you accused me of lying,

"What? "Our Native Americans came to their senses"? You mean after murdering most of them via disease and in brave attacks like at Wounded Knee where the brave U.S. Cavalry killed hundreds of women and children.. Oh wait, the Israelis just did that this summer."



Your claim is that you are an American and so are your brethren, must mean that you are First Nation.

As for the LIE it is obvious as the hooked nose on your face, the Israelis did not kill hundreds of women and children this summer that was hamas. You have been given the reasons why under INTERNATIONAL LAW the Israelis were not to blame and still you ignore reality and post your ISLAMONAZI LIBELS.

I see, Hamas did the bombing of Gaza. And, you claim that under this mythical International Law, which you rewrite as you please, condones the murder of women and children by the Israelis. Is this International Law of yours written especially for Jews and gives them the right to murder as long as the victims are non-Jews?

By the way, can you mention one, just one instance of a libel against Israel. I just deal in facts. Of the over 2,000 Palestinians (Christians and Muslims) killed by the Israelis in Gaza this summer, over 1,500 were civilians and over a thousand were women and children. Fact.



Not Mythical but recently signed up to by the P.A. and entitled the Geneva conventions. They clearly state that any use of civilian areas to engage in hostilities is illegal and a war crime, also any deaths resulting from the use of civilian areas or the use of civilians as human shields is the fault of the side using the civilian areas and civilian human shields. So why don't you read these conventions and all their amendments to see who is actually to blame for the murders of 2000 Palestinians in gaza.

You want a Libel try your last paragraph which is a BLOOD LIBEL as you have no concrete evidence of any of your claims.
 
montelatici, et al,

Wrong.

Well, the questions is (are) sic:
  • Was there a witness? --- or not?
YES

Read more: Israel Spokesman Admits Army Should Have Spared Boys Playing Soccer on Gaza Beach Forward.com
(COMMENT)

The Israeli's did investigate. And they admitted to the strike. But it did not come from the bay or the Israeli Navy (as so many claimed), but was indirect fire from Army Artillery.

NOTE: If any of you have been in a rocket or mortar attack, you know the echoes of buildings will confuse the sense of direction. But if you look at the video of the balcony strike, you can tell that the fire did not hit the building from the east (bay side and penetrating into the building) but was a glancing strike from the north.

The problem here is that the witnesses were not true witnesses of the event. They were the witnesses to the immediate aftermath and just assumed the strike came from Naval Gun Fire (it accounts for the media not actually seeing naval gun fire from the bay). The witnesses were making up any story just to assign blame to the Israelis. And while it was ultimately --- an Israeli Strike, the truth did no come from eye witness accounts, but from the honesty of the Israeli Defense Force.

My point is, you cannot trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
The old Zionist denial routine, much like Holocaust denial routine.

What a ridiculous comparison from the propaganda machine


What is the difference? Mr. Propaganda.

What is the difference between denying one of the most documented events of the 20th century in which millions of people were killed vs. denying one isolated event?

How is it possible that you can be so incredibly stupid propagandatici?
 
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montelatici, et al,

Wrong.

Well, the questions is (are) sic:
  • Was there a witness? --- or not?
YES

Read more: Israel Spokesman Admits Army Should Have Spared Boys Playing Soccer on Gaza Beach Forward.com
(COMMENT)

The Israeli's did investigate. And they admitted to the strike. But it did not come from the bay or the Israeli Navy (as so many claimed), but was indirect fire from Army Artillery.

NOTE: If any of you have been in a rocket or mortar attack, you know the echoes of buildings will confuse the sense of direction. But if you look at the video of the balcony strike, you can tell that the fire did not hit the building from the east (bay side and penetrating into the building) but was a glancing strike from the north.

The problem here is that the witnesses were not true witnesses of the event. They were the witnesses to the immediate aftermath and just assumed the strike came from Naval Gun Fire (it accounts for the media not actually seeing naval gun fire from the bay). The witnesses were making up any story just to assign blame to the Israelis. And while it was ultimately --- an Israeli Strike, the truth did no come from eye witness accounts, but from the honesty of the Israeli Defense Force.

My point is, you cannot trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Israeli. The old Zionist denial trick, eh. Why you bozos believe that this denial technique will be more effective than the Holocaust denial trick I don't know.

But you are wrong as usual:

Photographer was a witness, obviously:

Israeli Strike Kills Four Boys Playing on Gaza Beach - ABC News



The following makes clear that foreign reporters were witnesses:

"“The first strike hit at around 1300 GMT (4 p.m. local time), prompting terrified children and adults on the beach to scatter. A second and third struck as they ran, setting fire to huts on the beach,” Agence France-Presse’s Sara Hussein wrote. “The strikes appeared to be the result of shelling by the Israeli navy against an area with small shacks used by fishermen.”

Hussein, along with The Washington Post‘s William Booth and The Guardian‘s Peter Beaumont, saw the attack and the aftermath...“There is a deafening explosion as it hits a structure on the pier, a place we have seen hit before, where fishermen usually store their nets. Behind the smoke, I see four figures running, silhouettes whose legs are pumping raggedly. They clear the smoke. From their size it is clear they are a man and three young boys,” Beaumont wrote in his account of the attack seen from
Beaumont wrote the survivors fleeing the attack were targeted by a second shell, injuring them as they fled to safety.

“As it explodes, my colleagues, now standing by the terrace wall, shout at unseen Israeli gunners who can’t hear them: ‘They are only children,'” he wrote.

Journalists witness Gaza beach attack that killed at least 4 children - National Globalnews.ca
 
montelatici, et al,

Wrong.

Well, the questions is (are) sic:
  • Was there a witness? --- or not?
YES

Read more: Israel Spokesman Admits Army Should Have Spared Boys Playing Soccer on Gaza Beach Forward.com
(COMMENT)

The Israeli's did investigate. And they admitted to the strike. But it did not come from the bay or the Israeli Navy (as so many claimed), but was indirect fire from Army Artillery.

NOTE: If any of you have been in a rocket or mortar attack, you know the echoes of buildings will confuse the sense of direction. But if you look at the video of the balcony strike, you can tell that the fire did not hit the building from the east (bay side and penetrating into the building) but was a glancing strike from the north.

The problem here is that the witnesses were not true witnesses of the event. They were the witnesses to the immediate aftermath and just assumed the strike came from Naval Gun Fire (it accounts for the media not actually seeing naval gun fire from the bay). The witnesses were making up any story just to assign blame to the Israelis. And while it was ultimately --- an Israeli Strike, the truth did no come from eye witness accounts, but from the honesty of the Israeli Defense Force.

My point is, you cannot trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Israeli. The old Zionist denial trick, eh. Why you bozos believe that this denial technique will be more effective than the Holocaust denial trick I don't know.

But you are wrong as usual:

Photographer was a witness, obviously:

Israeli Strike Kills Four Boys Playing on Gaza Beach - ABC News



The following makes clear that foreign reporters were witnesses:

"“The first strike hit at around 1300 GMT (4 p.m. local time), prompting terrified children and adults on the beach to scatter. A second and third struck as they ran, setting fire to huts on the beach,” Agence France-Presse’s Sara Hussein wrote. “The strikes appeared to be the result of shelling by the Israeli navy against an area with small shacks used by fishermen.”

Hussein, along with The Washington Post‘s William Booth and The Guardian‘s Peter Beaumont, saw the attack and the aftermath...“There is a deafening explosion as it hits a structure on the pier, a place we have seen hit before, where fishermen usually store their nets. Behind the smoke, I see four figures running, silhouettes whose legs are pumping raggedly. They clear the smoke. From their size it is clear they are a man and three young boys,” Beaumont wrote in his account of the attack seen from
Beaumont wrote the survivors fleeing the attack were targeted by a second shell, injuring them as they fled to safety.

“As it explodes, my colleagues, now standing by the terrace wall, shout at unseen Israeli gunners who can’t hear them: ‘They are only children,'” he wrote.

Journalists witness Gaza beach attack that killed at least 4 children - National Globalnews.ca

Monti telling someone else that they are always wrong HAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk about hypocrisy !
 
The old Zionist denial routine, much like Holocaust denial routine.

What a ridiculous comparison from the propaganda machine


What is the difference? Mr. Propaganda.

What is the difference between denying one of the most documented events of the 20th century in which millions of people were killed vs. denying one isolated event?

How is it possible that you can be so incredibly stupid propagandatici?

Mr. Propaganda,

The only people that are denying something that dozens of journalists witnessed are nutcases like you and your buddies. Much like the Holocaust deniers. That's why it is a similar technique and ploy.
 
montelatici, et al,

Wrong.

Well, the questions is (are) sic:
  • Was there a witness? --- or not?
YES

Read more: Israel Spokesman Admits Army Should Have Spared Boys Playing Soccer on Gaza Beach Forward.com
(COMMENT)

The Israeli's did investigate. And they admitted to the strike. But it did not come from the bay or the Israeli Navy (as so many claimed), but was indirect fire from Army Artillery.

NOTE: If any of you have been in a rocket or mortar attack, you know the echoes of buildings will confuse the sense of direction. But if you look at the video of the balcony strike, you can tell that the fire did not hit the building from the east (bay side and penetrating into the building) but was a glancing strike from the north.

The problem here is that the witnesses were not true witnesses of the event. They were the witnesses to the immediate aftermath and just assumed the strike came from Naval Gun Fire (it accounts for the media not actually seeing naval gun fire from the bay). The witnesses were making up any story just to assign blame to the Israelis. And while it was ultimately --- an Israeli Strike, the truth did no come from eye witness accounts, but from the honesty of the Israeli Defense Force.

My point is, you cannot trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Palestinian.

Most Respectfully,
R

I don't trust the Honesty and Integrity of the Israeli. The old Zionist denial trick, eh. Why you bozos believe that this denial technique will be more effective than the Holocaust denial trick I don't know.

But you are wrong as usual:

Photographer was a witness, obviously:

Israeli Strike Kills Four Boys Playing on Gaza Beach - ABC News



The following makes clear that foreign reporters were witnesses:

"“The first strike hit at around 1300 GMT (4 p.m. local time), prompting terrified children and adults on the beach to scatter. A second and third struck as they ran, setting fire to huts on the beach,” Agence France-Presse’s Sara Hussein wrote. “The strikes appeared to be the result of shelling by the Israeli navy against an area with small shacks used by fishermen.”

Hussein, along with The Washington Post‘s William Booth and The Guardian‘s Peter Beaumont, saw the attack and the aftermath...“There is a deafening explosion as it hits a structure on the pier, a place we have seen hit before, where fishermen usually store their nets. Behind the smoke, I see four figures running, silhouettes whose legs are pumping raggedly. They clear the smoke. From their size it is clear they are a man and three young boys,” Beaumont wrote in his account of the attack seen from
Beaumont wrote the survivors fleeing the attack were targeted by a second shell, injuring them as they fled to safety.

“As it explodes, my colleagues, now standing by the terrace wall, shout at unseen Israeli gunners who can’t hear them: ‘They are only children,'” he wrote.

Journalists witness Gaza beach attack that killed at least 4 children - National Globalnews.ca

Monti telling someone else that they are always wrong HAHAHA :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Talk about hypocrisy !

Mr. Propaganda,

I am never wrong, as you well know. That's what irks you so much that you have become the peanut gallery. LOL
How can I be wrong when I just post facts that are always backed up and usually with source documentation, not news or opinion (or wiki).
 
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