Who Are The Palestinians?

[aris2chat]

It is not a "false conclusion."

There are several concepts in play here.

First:

Every State likewise has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect.​

The armistice lines never divided Palestine from anybody else. In the case of the West Bank and Gaza, the lines ran through Palestine. How can the Palestinians violate a line that is Palestine on both sides?

The armistice lines have little to do with Palestine. They were agreements between two sovereign states.

1949 Armistice Agreements - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Look at the map on the right. It clearly shows Israeli territory and Arab territory following the signing of the agreements.

Armistice lines did not designate any territory.

I feel the solution would be a self governing, self determination Palestinian State where the Palestinians could no longer suck off of Israel to provide for them. The big question is where to put it as no surrounding Arab country will grant the Palestinians a right of return back to their indigenous homelands. Do you think Mecca might be a nice place for a Palestinian State?

The Palestinians are home, and some of the Jews homes are on their land.

Land was taken by Jordan when the jews were forced to leave the WB. Some of the land is being reclaimed.

 

[RoccoR]

docmauser1, et al,

I don't necessarily disagree on what was said; but the convention says it differently.

I know, but, considering the words of the Jordanian FM Nasser Judah at the UNSC "Most of the refugees on our territory are Jordanian citizens in addition to their status as refugees, and it lies at the heart of our responsibilities to protect and restore their legitimate rights recognised by the international terms of reference pertaining to the peace process. As a host country, we, in turn, have rights for the burdens we have shouldered." we've a quantum mech cake, which is, both, eaten and not so eaten. The UNRWA is babbling about 2,070,973 registered Palestine refugees there. Of all of those, for all intents and purposes, professional refugees the gazabad ones don't have a jordanian citizenship and carry a temporary jordano passport.

(COMMENT)

As I said, the Convention and Protocol Relating to the Status of Refugees, is clear --- you cannot hold the status of both a citizen of Jordan and a Refugee. You are either one or the other.

When the Palestinians accepted Jordanian Citizenship, they exercised their right of self-determination, but also relinquished any "refugee status." Under the Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees, the:

C. This Convention shall cease to apply to any person falling under the terms of section A if:

(1) He has voluntarily re-availed himself of the protection of the country of his nationality; or
(2) Having lost his nationality, he has voluntarily re-acquired it; or
(3) He has acquired a new nationality, and enjoys the protection of the country of his new nationality; or
(4) He has voluntarily re-established himself in the country which he leftor outside which he remained owing to fear of persecution; or​

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It is just that simple.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Penelope]

The indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim among them. So who are the invaders? Duh!

There were obviously the Canaanites you originally stole the land from, intermarried with and they stayed.

The indigenous Palestinians were Jews. Not a single Muslim among them. So who are the invaders? Duh!

There were obviously the Canaanites you originally stole the land from, intermarried with and they stayed.

Oh that's right. I forgot about all those Muslim Canaanites.

Seriously, Were there Jews among the Canaanite tribes. Were there Muslims among them? Boy that's a tough one, huh Penelope?

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

 

[Billo_Really]

Steve, Billo is a lump of coal.

You're just jealous my ass is shiny, hard and worth millions. What's your ass worth? A half-pint of Mickey's?

 

[Billo_Really]

Coal is brown and smells like hell?

You sniff men's butts often?

 

[Roudy]

Coal is brown and smells like hell?

You sniff men's butts often?

No but when I see something brown and smelly like you on the ground, I make sure not to step in it.

 

[Roudy]

It is not a "false conclusion."

There are several concepts in play here.

First:

Every State likewise has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate international lines of demarcation, such as armistice lines, established by or pursuant to an international agreement to which it is a party or which it is otherwise bound to respect.​

The armistice lines never divided Palestine from anybody else. In the case of the West Bank and Gaza, the lines ran through Palestine. How can the Palestinians violate a line that is Palestine on both sides?

The armistice lines have little to do with Palestine. They were agreements between two sovereign states.

1949 Armistice Agreements - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Look at the map on the right. It clearly shows Israeli territory and Arab territory following the signing of the agreements.

Armistice lines did not designate any territory.

You said that the lines ran through Palestine. That's absurd. I'm not talking about designating territory.
I'm referring more to your "the armistice agreements seperated Palestine into three areas of occupation"

What Palestine, it was Ottoman territory for 700 years, and they called it Southern Syria, and it certainly had no "lines" to it.

 

[Hossfly]

There were obviously the Canaanites you originally stole the land from, intermarried with and they stayed.
There were obviously the Canaanites you originally stole the land from, intermarried with and they stayed.

Oh that's right. I forgot about all those Muslim Canaanites.

Seriously, Were there Jews among the Canaanite tribes. Were there Muslims among them? Boy that's a tough one, huh Penelope?

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

 

[Phoenall]

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants. The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

And all arab settlers found, turned out to be "saudi sheikhs" to own(!) 90(%) of the mandate palestine!

There were few Arab settlers. The settlers were the Jews. There were no Saudi owners, quit making things up, Saudis didn't have a pot to piss in those days anyway you idiot. You need to get out more. Oh, now make you look like an idiot again as stated by the Mandatory Jew increase by migration, 245,433, Muslim increase thru migration 25,168, Christian increase thru migration 10,414. Nearly ten times more Jews migrated to Palestine than Christians and Muslims.

All religions.	Muslims	Jews	Christians.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

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- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

Once again an invalid source of information

Invalid how?

The source documents that were used to compile this report were written by ANTI SEMITIC JEW HATERS and it was deemed not a valid representation of the facts, but one clouded by racism

 

[Penelope]

Oh that's right. I forgot about all those Muslim Canaanites.

Seriously, Were there Jews among the Canaanite tribes. Were there Muslims among them? Boy that's a tough one, huh Penelope?

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

 

[Hossfly]

Seriously, Were there Jews among the Canaanite tribes. Were there Muslims among them? Boy that's a tough one, huh Penelope?

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Forget about it, Tinmore Clone.

 

[MJB12741]

Seriously, Were there Jews among the Canaanite tribes. Were there Muslims among them? Boy that's a tough one, huh Penelope?

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

"Israelites"? Haven't you heard the news? You see, there was no Israel until 1948. Did you forget that?

 

[Roudy]

Seriously, Were there Jews among the Canaanite tribes. Were there Muslims among them? Boy that's a tough one, huh Penelope?

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

 

[MJB12741]

Its a tough one for you. It even says in your history books they intermarried with everyone. Like I once said you might be a Canaanite Princess.

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

 

[MJB12741]

You can deny all you want the truth. Won't change the facts one bit as to who are the Palestinian squatters & who is occupying who's land.

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

The fact remains there were Hebrews among the Canaanite tribes. Not a single Muslim yet on this earth until after the 7th century AD. And now the Palestinians want us to believe Israel is stealing "their land." Don't that beat all?

 

[Penelope]

Well they have been squatting there for several thousand years, longer that the Zionists, so get use to it.

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

The fact remains there were Hebrews among the Canaanite tribes. Not a single Muslim yet on this earth until after the 7th century AD. And now the Palestinians want us to believe Israel is stealing "their land." Don't that beat all?

Were not talking about Muslims who practice Islam, we are talking about the Pals and who their descendants were and that would be Canaanites unless you have a better pick, either way the Jews and they are related. (If you live there, why not go ask one)

 

[MJB12741]

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

The fact remains there were Hebrews among the Canaanite tribes. Not a single Muslim yet on this earth until after the 7th century AD. And now the Palestinians want us to believe Israel is stealing "their land." Don't that beat all?

Were not talking about Muslims who practice Islam, we are talking about the Pals and who their descendants were and that would be Canaanites unless you have a better pick, either way the Jews and they are related. (If you live there, why not go ask one)

Okay , I will ask my Canaanite neighbors. And you ask yours. Fair enough?

 

[Penelope]

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

The fact remains there were Hebrews among the Canaanite tribes. Not a single Muslim yet on this earth until after the 7th century AD. And now the Palestinians want us to believe Israel is stealing "their land." Don't that beat all?

Were not talking about Muslims who practice Islam, we are talking about the Pals and who their descendants were and that would be Canaanites unless you have a better pick, either way the Jews and they are related. (If you live there, why not go ask one)

Okay , I will ask my Canaanite neighbors. And you ask yours. Fair enough?

I would if I had any, don't think any live in MI.

 

[Roudy]

It would help if you listed some dates.

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

The fact remains there were Hebrews among the Canaanite tribes. Not a single Muslim yet on this earth until after the 7th century AD. And now the Palestinians want us to believe Israel is stealing "their land." Don't that beat all?

Were not talking about Muslims who practice Islam, we are talking about the Pals and who their descendants were and that would be Canaanites unless you have a better pick, either way the Jews and they are related. (If you live there, why not go ask one)

And dufus pinhead thinks Pals who are Arabs no different than other Syrian, Egyptian, etc. Arabs are somehow related to the Canaanites, and extinct people who mixed with the Jews, an there is no trace of "Canaanite" genetic makeup either, because.....

"Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

 

[Hossfly]

Dates for what, everyone know the Isralites went and fought the Canaanites. They were there first.

Canaanites were idol whoppers who believed in human sacrifice, and they are an extinct people, that is a fact. The Israelites defeated them thousands of years ago, and then mixed with them. What are you blabbering about now?

Why don't you make a sign and go stand on a major intersection ," Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Back in the box for Penelope with her dunce cap.

The fact remains there were Hebrews among the Canaanite tribes. Not a single Muslim yet on this earth until after the 7th century AD. And now the Palestinians want us to believe Israel is stealing "their land." Don't that beat all?

Were not talking about Muslims who practice Islam, we are talking about the Pals and who their descendants were and that would be Canaanites unless you have a better pick, either way the Jews and they are related. (If you live there, why not go ask one)

And dufus pinhead thinks Pals who are Arabs no different than other Syrian, Egyptian, etc. Arabs are somehow related to the Canaanites, and extinct people who mixed with the Jews, an there is no trace of "Canaanite" genetic makeup either, because.....

"Free Canaan!" Ha ha ha.

Roudy , you're pissing into the wind along with the rest of us.