Who Are The Palestinians?

[montelatici]

Bad choices have consequences.

 

[montelatici]

Did you spot the LIES then as it was the arab league that invaded that part of Palestine, so they destroyed the village and evicted the Christians.

I sure did spot your lies. You are a pathological liar, Phoeny.

You never do when they are ISLAMONAZI ones, then claim that the evidence proving it is flawed and Zionist lies. Proving to everyone that you are an ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST

As you have discovered, all my links are to neutral official archives or Jewish archives. The facts are bothersome to someone that has only been fed propaganda. I feel your pain.

WRONG AGAIN ABDUL they may in archives but that does not make them neutral, the one you push the most is far from neutral as you have been told. Even Winston Churchill condemned them as ANTI SEMITIC and LIES

The Survey, specifically, is in the archives of the UN, because it was were used to justify the giving more than 50% of Palestine to the Zionists, so yes, it is not neutral, it is pro-Zionist. Unfortunately for you ZioNazis, even a pro-Zionist survey has to be based on some fact. Just imagine if the Survey had been prepared by neutrals.

Get it through your thick skull, Zionists don't have a leg to stand on, with respect to their invasion/colonization of Palestine and the resultant expulsion of the indigenous people of the Christian and Muslim faiths. It's as simple as that. The sooner the Jews begin serious negotiations and enfranchise the non-Jews they now have control over, the sooner peace will come and disaster averted.

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

By 1922, the Ottoman Empire is collapsed. The Treaty of Sevres (ToS) has been made, the Palestine Order in Council has been published and the Mandate (formulated by the Principal Allied Powers and submitted to the Council of the League of Nations and approved); assigned to Great Britain. Turkey has agreed, in accordance with the provisions of Article 132, ToS, to accept any decisions which may be taken in relation to the questions dealt with in SECTION VII --- SYRIA, MESOPOTAMIA, PALESTINE; with respect to the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, under Article 95, ToS.

In 1947, the UN General Assembly adopts a Partition Plan and the Steps Preparatory for Independence. In 1948, the Israel declares independence.

The Survey, specifically, is in the archives of the UN, because it was were used to justify the giving more than 50% of Palestine to the Zionists, so yes, it is not neutral, it is pro-Zionist. Unfortunately for you ZioNazis, even a pro-Zionist survey has to be based on some fact. Just imagine if the Survey had been prepared by neutrals.

Get it through your thick skull, Zionists don't have a leg to stand on, with respect to their invasion/colonization of Palestine and the resultant expulsion of the indigenous people of the Christian and Muslim faiths. It's as simple as that. The sooner the Jews begin serious negotiations and enfranchise the non-Jews they now have control over, the sooner peace will come and disaster averted.

(QUESTION)

• OK --- Specifically what laws did Israel violate?
• 
  
• What Arab Rights have been violated?

NOTE: Just list them, specifically; you don't have to defend them.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

• • 
    What laws has Israel broken? It would take hours, but let's just look at two.
    • 
      
      • 
        
      Convention (IV) relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War.
  • 
    
  Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited, regardless of their motive.
  

• 
  The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.

Besides being victims of ethnic cleansing and genocide (read the definition of genocide before claiming that since the Palestinians have increased in number genocide doesn't apply).

To start, the Mandatory/LoN/UN did not safeguard the civil, political and economic interests of the Muslims and Christians, did not provide for the creation of a national independent Government for the Muslims and Christians in accordance with paragraph 4, Article 22, of the Covenant of the League of Nations, did not provide religious equality to the Christians and Muslim.

 

[Muhammed]

What are

Let the truth be known to all.

Who Are The Palestinians What And Where Is Palestine

Call me Captain Obvious, but I'd say that Palestinians are people from Palestine.

Dare to correct me if you think I'm wrong, you SADFIs.

So does this mean people from the badlands are bads, people from the Gobi desert are Gobi's Both like Palestine a name for a place that has no borders or boundaries[/QUOTE]
No

 

[Muhammed]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

 

[Hossfly]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

You wish.

 

[Muhammed]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

You wish.

Yo mama's ass.

 

[montelatici]

The borders of Palestine were very clear as per the League of Nations. And the non-Jewish people living within those well-defined borders were called (and called themselves) Palestinians. The European colonizers in Palestine called themselves Zionists.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.

The boundaries are described as follows:--

• • 
    South.--From a point west of Rafa on the Mediterranean to a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba.
    
    East.--From a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba up the centre of the Wadi Araba, the Dead Sea, and the River Jordan, to the junction of the latter with the River Yarmuk, thence up the centre of the River Yarmuk to the Syrian frontier.
    
    North.--The northern boundary was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Stated briefly, the boundary runs from Ras el Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to Metulla and across the upper Jordan valley to Banias, thence to Jisr Banat Yaqub, thence along the Jordan to the Lake of Tiberias on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line.
    
    West.--The Mediterranean Sea."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1932

 

[Mindful]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

**** you.

 

[Hossfly]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

You wish.

Yo mama's ass.

My mama's dead you illegitimate **********. Drop it.

 

[Hossfly]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

You wish.

Yo mama's ass.

My mama's dead you illegitimate **********. Drop it.

 

[Muhammed]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

You wish.

Yo mama's ass.

My mama's dead you illegitimate **********. Drop it.

Yo mama cansuck my .....

 

[Mindful]

Are you still dumb enough to believe they just want a little sliver of land in Israel?

**** Israel.

You wish.

Yo mama's ass.

My mama's dead you illegitimate **********. Drop it.

Don't take that low life seriously. He doesn't deserve the honour.

 

[Phoenall]

Did you spot the LIES then as it was the arab league that invaded that part of Palestine, so they destroyed the village and evicted the Christians.

I sure did spot your lies. You are a pathological liar, Phoeny.

You never do when they are ISLAMONAZI ones, then claim that the evidence proving it is flawed and Zionist lies. Proving to everyone that you are an ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST

As you have discovered, all my links are to neutral official archives or Jewish archives. The facts are bothersome to someone that has only been fed propaganda. I feel your pain.

WRONG AGAIN ABDUL they may in archives but that does not make them neutral, the one you push the most is far from neutral as you have been told. Even Winston Churchill condemned them as ANTI SEMITIC and LIES

The Survey, specifically, is in the archives of the UN, because it was were used to justify the giving more than 50% of Palestine to the Zionists, so yes, it is not neutral, it is pro-Zionist. Unfortunately for you ZioNazis, even a pro-Zionist survey has to be based on some fact. Just imagine if the Survey had been prepared by neutrals.

Get it through your thick skull, Zionists don't have a leg to stand on, with respect to their invasion/colonization of Palestine and the resultant expulsion of the indigenous people of the Christian and Muslim faiths. It's as simple as that. The sooner the Jews begin serious negotiations and enfranchise the non-Jews they now have control over, the sooner peace will come and disaster averted.

Get it right the ISLAMONAZIS got 78% of Palestine leaving the Jews with 22% that the ISLAMONAZIS did not want.

Maybe this will help you under stand that the Jews were the ones who worked the land and not the arab muslims

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Jerusalem (After 1291)
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm

 

[Phoenall]

The borders of Palestine were very clear as per the League of Nations. And the non-Jewish people living within those well-defined borders were called (and called themselves) Palestinians. The European colonizers in Palestine called themselves Zionists.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.

The boundaries are described as follows:--

• • 
    South.--From a point west of Rafa on the Mediterranean to a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba.
    
    East.--From a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba up the centre of the Wadi Araba, the Dead Sea, and the River Jordan, to the junction of the latter with the River Yarmuk, thence up the centre of the River Yarmuk to the Syrian frontier.
    
    North.--The northern boundary was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Stated briefly, the boundary runs from Ras el Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to Metulla and across the upper Jordan valley to Banias, thence to Jisr Banat Yaqub, thence along the Jordan to the Lake of Tiberias on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line.
    
    West.--The Mediterranean Sea."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1932

That was 12 years after the original MANDATE so not valid for when the LoN made their promise based on this source document


Original letter[edit]
October 24, 1915.
I have received your letter of the 29th Shawal, 1333, with much pleasure and your expression of friendliness and sincerity have given me the greatest satisfaction. I regret that you should have received from my last letter the impression that I regarded the question of limits and boundaries with coldness and hesitation; such was not the case, but it appeared to me that the time had not yet come when that question could be discussed in a conclusive manner.

I have realised, however, from your last letter that you regard this question as one of vital and urgent importance. I have, therefore, lost no time in informing the Government of Great Britain of the contents of your letter, and it is with great pleasure that I communicate to you on their behalf the following statement, which I am confident you will receive with satisfaction. The two districts of Mersina and Alexandretta and portions of Syria lying to the west of the districts of Damascus, Homs, Hama.and Aleppo cannot be said to be purely Arab, and should be excluded from the limits demanded. With the above modification, and without prejudice to our existing treaties with Arab chiefs, we accept those limits. As for those regions lying within those frontiers wherein Great Britain is free to act without detriment to the interests of her ally, France, I am empowered in the name of the Government of Great Britain to give the following assurances and make the following assurances and make the following reply to your letter: Subject to the above modifications, Great Britain is prepared to recognise and support the independence of the Arabs in all the regions within the limits demanded by the Sherif of Mecca. Great Britain will guarantee the Holy Places against all external aggression and will recognise their inviolability. When the situation admits, Great Britain will give to the Arabs her advice and will assist them to establish what may appear to be the most suitable forms of government those various territories. On the other hand, it is understood that the Arabs have decided to seek the advice and guidance of Great Britain only, and that such European advisers and officials as may be required for the formation of a sound form of administration will be British. With regard to the vilayets of Bagdad and Basra, the Arabs will recognise that the established position and interests of Great Britain necessitate special administrative arrangements in order to secure these territories from foreign aggression to promote the welfare of the local populations and to safeguard our mutual economic interests. I am convinced that this declaration will assure you beyond all possible doubt of the sympathy of Great Britain towards the aspirations of her friends the Arabs and will result in a firm and lasting alliance, the immediate results of which will be the expulsion of the Turks from the Arab countries and the freeing of the Arab peoples from the Turkish yoke, which for so many years has pressed heavily upon them. I have confined myself in this letter to the more vital and important questions, and if there are any other matters dealt with in your letters which I have omitted to mention, we may discuss them at some convenient date in the future. It was with very great relief and satisfaction that I heard of the safe arrival of the Holy Carpet and the accompanying offerings which, thanks to the clearness of your directions and the excellence of your arrangements, were landed without trouble or mishap in spite of the dangers and difficulties occasioned by the present sad war. May God soon bring a lasting peace and freedom of all peoples. I am sending this letter by the hand of your trusted and excellent messenger, Sheikh Mohammed ibn Arif ibn Uraifan, and he will inform you of the various matters of interest, but of less vital importance, which I have not mentioned in this letter.
(Compliments).
(Signed): A. HENRY MCMAHON.




And here is the map to go with the letter

 

[montelatici]

I sure did spot your lies. You are a pathological liar, Phoeny.

You never do when they are ISLAMONAZI ones, then claim that the evidence proving it is flawed and Zionist lies. Proving to everyone that you are an ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST

As you have discovered, all my links are to neutral official archives or Jewish archives. The facts are bothersome to someone that has only been fed propaganda. I feel your pain.

WRONG AGAIN ABDUL they may in archives but that does not make them neutral, the one you push the most is far from neutral as you have been told. Even Winston Churchill condemned them as ANTI SEMITIC and LIES

The Survey, specifically, is in the archives of the UN, because it was were used to justify the giving more than 50% of Palestine to the Zionists, so yes, it is not neutral, it is pro-Zionist. Unfortunately for you ZioNazis, even a pro-Zionist survey has to be based on some fact. Just imagine if the Survey had been prepared by neutrals.

Get it through your thick skull, Zionists don't have a leg to stand on, with respect to their invasion/colonization of Palestine and the resultant expulsion of the indigenous people of the Christian and Muslim faiths. It's as simple as that. The sooner the Jews begin serious negotiations and enfranchise the non-Jews they now have control over, the sooner peace will come and disaster averted.

Get it right the ISLAMONAZIS got 78% of Palestine leaving the Jews with 22% that the ISLAMONAZIS did not want.

Maybe this will help you under stand that the Jews were the ones who worked the land and not the arab muslims

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Jerusalem (After 1291)
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm

Well, a Christian Zionist magazine is certainly source documentation. But now the facts in the Mandatory's first Report to the League of Nations:

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. ​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine. Most of them were animated by religious motives; they came to pray and to die in the Holy Land, and to be buried in its soil. After the persecutions in Russia forty years ago, the movement of the Jews to Palestine assumed larger proportions. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[montelatici]

The borders of Palestine were very clear as per the League of Nations. And the non-Jewish people living within those well-defined borders were called (and called themselves) Palestinians. The European colonizers in Palestine called themselves Zionists.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.

The boundaries are described as follows:--

• • 
    South.--From a point west of Rafa on the Mediterranean to a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba.
    
    East.--From a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba up the centre of the Wadi Araba, the Dead Sea, and the River Jordan, to the junction of the latter with the River Yarmuk, thence up the centre of the River Yarmuk to the Syrian frontier.
    
    North.--The northern boundary was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Stated briefly, the boundary runs from Ras el Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to Metulla and across the upper Jordan valley to Banias, thence to Jisr Banat Yaqub, thence along the Jordan to the Lake of Tiberias on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line.
    
    West.--The Mediterranean Sea."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1932

That was 12 years after the original MANDATE so not valid for when the LoN made their promise based on this source document


Original letter[edit]
October 24, 1915.
I have received your letter of the 29th Shawal, 1333, with much pleasure and your expression of friendliness and sincerity have given me the greatest satisfaction. I regret that you should have received from my last letter the impression that I regarded the question of limits and boundaries with coldness and hesitation; such was not the case, but it appeared to me that the time had not yet come when that question could be discussed in a conclusive manner.

I have realised, however, from your last letter that you regard this question as one of vital and urgent importance. I have, therefore, lost no time in informing the Government of Great Britain of the contents of your letter, and it is with great pleasure that I communicate to you on their behalf the following statement, which I am confident you will receive with satisfaction. The two districts of Mersina and Alexandretta and portions of Syria lying to the west of the districts of Damascus, Homs, Hama.and Aleppo cannot be said to be purely Arab, and should be excluded from the limits demanded. With the above modification, and without prejudice to our existing treaties with Arab chiefs, we accept those limits. As for those regions lying within those frontiers wherein Great Britain is free to act without detriment to the interests of her ally, France, I am empowered in the name of the Government of Great Britain to give the following assurances and make the following assurances and make the following reply to your letter: Subject to the above modifications, Great Britain is prepared to recognise and support the independence of the Arabs in all the regions within the limits demanded by the Sherif of Mecca. Great Britain will guarantee the Holy Places against all external aggression and will recognise their inviolability. When the situation admits, Great Britain will give to the Arabs her advice and will assist them to establish what may appear to be the most suitable forms of government those various territories. On the other hand, it is understood that the Arabs have decided to seek the advice and guidance of Great Britain only, and that such European advisers and officials as may be required for the formation of a sound form of administration will be British. With regard to the vilayets of Bagdad and Basra, the Arabs will recognise that the established position and interests of Great Britain necessitate special administrative arrangements in order to secure these territories from foreign aggression to promote the welfare of the local populations and to safeguard our mutual economic interests. I am convinced that this declaration will assure you beyond all possible doubt of the sympathy of Great Britain towards the aspirations of her friends the Arabs and will result in a firm and lasting alliance, the immediate results of which will be the expulsion of the Turks from the Arab countries and the freeing of the Arab peoples from the Turkish yoke, which for so many years has pressed heavily upon them. I have confined myself in this letter to the more vital and important questions, and if there are any other matters dealt with in your letters which I have omitted to mention, we may discuss them at some convenient date in the future. It was with very great relief and satisfaction that I heard of the safe arrival of the Holy Carpet and the accompanying offerings which, thanks to the clearness of your directions and the excellence of your arrangements, were landed without trouble or mishap in spite of the dangers and difficulties occasioned by the present sad war. May God soon bring a lasting peace and freedom of all peoples. I am sending this letter by the hand of your trusted and excellent messenger, Sheikh Mohammed ibn Arif ibn Uraifan, and he will inform you of the various matters of interest, but of less vital importance, which I have not mentioned in this letter.
(Compliments).
(Signed): A. HENRY MCMAHON.




And here is the map to go with the letter

"That was 12 years after the original MANDATE so not valid for when the LoN made their promise based on this source document"

No, it is the definition the borders of Palestine (not Trans-Jordania) as per the Mandate. They never changed.

 

[ChrisL]

The borders of Palestine were very clear as per the League of Nations. And the non-Jewish people living within those well-defined borders were called (and called themselves) Palestinians. The European colonizers in Palestine called themselves Zionists.

"Palestine lies on the western edge of the continent of Asia between latitude 30° N. and 33° N., Longitude 34° 30 E. and 35° 30' E.

On the south it is bounded by Egyptian and Saudi Arabian territory, on the east by Trans-Jordan, on the north by the French Mandated Territories of Syria and the Lebanon, and on the west by the Mediterranean.

The boundaries are described as follows:--

• • 
    South.--From a point west of Rafa on the Mediterranean to a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba.
    
    East.--From a point two miles west of Aqaba in the Gulf of Aqaba up the centre of the Wadi Araba, the Dead Sea, and the River Jordan, to the junction of the latter with the River Yarmuk, thence up the centre of the River Yarmuk to the Syrian frontier.
    
    North.--The northern boundary was laid down by the Anglo-French Convention of the 23rd December, 1920, and its delimitation was ratified in 1923. Stated briefly, the boundary runs from Ras el Naqura on the Mediterranean eastwards to Metulla and across the upper Jordan valley to Banias, thence to Jisr Banat Yaqub, thence along the Jordan to the Lake of Tiberias on to El Hamme station on the Samakh-Deraa railway line.
    
    West.--The Mediterranean Sea."

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations 31 December 1932

That was 12 years after the original MANDATE so not valid for when the LoN made their promise based on this source document


Original letter[edit]
October 24, 1915.
I have received your letter of the 29th Shawal, 1333, with much pleasure and your expression of friendliness and sincerity have given me the greatest satisfaction. I regret that you should have received from my last letter the impression that I regarded the question of limits and boundaries with coldness and hesitation; such was not the case, but it appeared to me that the time had not yet come when that question could be discussed in a conclusive manner.

I have realised, however, from your last letter that you regard this question as one of vital and urgent importance. I have, therefore, lost no time in informing the Government of Great Britain of the contents of your letter, and it is with great pleasure that I communicate to you on their behalf the following statement, which I am confident you will receive with satisfaction. The two districts of Mersina and Alexandretta and portions of Syria lying to the west of the districts of Damascus, Homs, Hama.and Aleppo cannot be said to be purely Arab, and should be excluded from the limits demanded. With the above modification, and without prejudice to our existing treaties with Arab chiefs, we accept those limits. As for those regions lying within those frontiers wherein Great Britain is free to act without detriment to the interests of her ally, France, I am empowered in the name of the Government of Great Britain to give the following assurances and make the following assurances and make the following reply to your letter: Subject to the above modifications, Great Britain is prepared to recognise and support the independence of the Arabs in all the regions within the limits demanded by the Sherif of Mecca. Great Britain will guarantee the Holy Places against all external aggression and will recognise their inviolability. When the situation admits, Great Britain will give to the Arabs her advice and will assist them to establish what may appear to be the most suitable forms of government those various territories. On the other hand, it is understood that the Arabs have decided to seek the advice and guidance of Great Britain only, and that such European advisers and officials as may be required for the formation of a sound form of administration will be British. With regard to the vilayets of Bagdad and Basra, the Arabs will recognise that the established position and interests of Great Britain necessitate special administrative arrangements in order to secure these territories from foreign aggression to promote the welfare of the local populations and to safeguard our mutual economic interests. I am convinced that this declaration will assure you beyond all possible doubt of the sympathy of Great Britain towards the aspirations of her friends the Arabs and will result in a firm and lasting alliance, the immediate results of which will be the expulsion of the Turks from the Arab countries and the freeing of the Arab peoples from the Turkish yoke, which for so many years has pressed heavily upon them. I have confined myself in this letter to the more vital and important questions, and if there are any other matters dealt with in your letters which I have omitted to mention, we may discuss them at some convenient date in the future. It was with very great relief and satisfaction that I heard of the safe arrival of the Holy Carpet and the accompanying offerings which, thanks to the clearness of your directions and the excellence of your arrangements, were landed without trouble or mishap in spite of the dangers and difficulties occasioned by the present sad war. May God soon bring a lasting peace and freedom of all peoples. I am sending this letter by the hand of your trusted and excellent messenger, Sheikh Mohammed ibn Arif ibn Uraifan, and he will inform you of the various matters of interest, but of less vital importance, which I have not mentioned in this letter.
(Compliments).
(Signed): A. HENRY MCMAHON.




And here is the map to go with the letter

"That was 12 years after the original MANDATE so not valid for when the LoN made their promise based on this source document"

No, it is definition the borders of Palestine (not Trans-Jordania) as per the Mandate. They never changed.

Thanks be to Israel for containing that scourge so it doesn't effect the rest of the civilized world.

Also, no one cares about your stupid maps. Israel is not going anywhere, nor should they. THEY are our allies. Palestine is not. They are a country of uncivilized killers run by various terror cells.

 

[montelatici]

I sure did spot your lies. You are a pathological liar, Phoeny.

You never do when they are ISLAMONAZI ones, then claim that the evidence proving it is flawed and Zionist lies. Proving to everyone that you are an ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST

As you have discovered, all my links are to neutral official archives or Jewish archives. The facts are bothersome to someone that has only been fed propaganda. I feel your pain.

WRONG AGAIN ABDUL they may in archives but that does not make them neutral, the one you push the most is far from neutral as you have been told. Even Winston Churchill condemned them as ANTI SEMITIC and LIES

The Survey, specifically, is in the archives of the UN, because it was were used to justify the giving more than 50% of Palestine to the Zionists, so yes, it is not neutral, it is pro-Zionist. Unfortunately for you ZioNazis, even a pro-Zionist survey has to be based on some fact. Just imagine if the Survey had been prepared by neutrals.

Get it through your thick skull, Zionists don't have a leg to stand on, with respect to their invasion/colonization of Palestine and the resultant expulsion of the indigenous people of the Christian and Muslim faiths. It's as simple as that. The sooner the Jews begin serious negotiations and enfranchise the non-Jews they now have control over, the sooner peace will come and disaster averted.

Get it right the ISLAMONAZIS got 78% of Palestine leaving the Jews with 22% that the ISLAMONAZIS did not want.

Maybe this will help you under stand that the Jews were the ones who worked the land and not the arab muslims

CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Jerusalem (After 1291)
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA Jerusalem After 1291

"...Present condition of the City: (1907 edition)

Jerusalem (El Quds) is the capital of a sanjak and the seat of a mutasarrif directly dependent on the Sublime Porte. In the administration of the sanjak the mutasarrif is assisted by a council called majlis ida ra; the city has a municipal government (majlis baladiye) presided over by a mayor. The total population is estimated at 66,000. The Turkish census of 1905, which counts only Ottoman subjects, gives these figures:
Jews, 45,000; Moslems, 8,000; Orthodox Christians, 6000; Latins, 2500; Armenians, 950; Protestants, 800; Melkites, 250; Copts, 150; Abyssinians, 100; Jacobites, 100; Catholic Syrians, 50. During the Nineteenth century large suburbs to the north and east have grown up, chiefly for the use of the Jewish colony. These suburbs contain nearly Half the present population...""

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Growth of Jerusalem 1838-Present

....... Jews Muslims Christians Total
1838 6,000 5,000 3,000 14,000
1844 7,120 5,760 3,390 16,270 ..... ..The First Official Ottoman Census
1876 12,000 7,560 5,470 25,030 .... .....Second """"""""""
1905 40,000 8,000 10,900 58,900 ....... Third/last, detailed in CathEncyc above
1948 99,320 36,680 31,300 167,300
1990 353,200 124,200 14,000 491,400
1992 385,000 150,000 15,000 550,000

http://www.testimony-magazine.org/jerusalem/bring.htm

Now you refer to Christian Zionist magazines for your back-up. Oh dear.