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Did they say de jure borders?So when I post links from Wikipedia that clearly state Israel’s INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED BORDERS, that’s a propaganda site ? Lol!!! You got nothing Tinmore.. nothing but Palestinian lies , and so you claim we use Israeli propaganda sitesLinks to Israeli propaganda sites don't count. What else you got?You need a link that proves Palestine was not a country ? Why ? Every time we post links to counter your bullshit , you still don’t admit you’re wrong ..Who told you that?Poor attempt at a duck.Load of Israeli hooey. Negotiating borders is a final status issue. How can the Palestinians negotiate borders when they have no territory?The Palestinians are the only people who can cede their territory to Israel.
They didn't own any territory, how can they cede it?
You don't make any sense.
How can the Palestinians negotiate borders when they have no territory?
Why should anyone negotiate with the Palestinians, who you admit have no territory?
You make me laugh.
Never was a country, never owned any territory.
Not a duck in sight.
Link?
What was the JNH under the Mandate?"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home in that country."
ART. 7.The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
Why would the Palestinians and the Jews become nationals and citizens of a place that was not a state?
What was the JNH under the Mandate?"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home in that country."
ART. 7.The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
Why would the Palestinians and the Jews become nationals and citizens of a place that was not a state?
I don't quiet understand what are you alluding here...
The JHN was the representative of the Jewish majority,
and acquisition of citizenship is the formal relationship
between a govt, in this case the British Mandate Admin
and the residents of a territory it administers.
The Mandate as you yourself stated many times, was not a sovereign state,
neither founded and administered by or designated for an Arab state.
It was merely and administration, designated by international law,
for helping in the re-constitution of the Jewish National Home.
Indeed, it does not fit your Israeli propaganda,I don't quiet understand what are you alluding here...
What was the JNH under the Mandate?"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home in that country."
ART. 7.The Administration of Palestine shall be responsible for enacting a nationality law. There shall be included in this law provisions framed so as to facilitate the acquisition of Palestinian citizenship by Jews who take up their permanent residence in Palestine.
Why would the Palestinians and the Jews become nationals and citizens of a place that was not a state?
I don't quiet understand what are you alluding here...
The JHN was the representative of the Jewish majority,
and acquisition of citizenship is the formal relationship
between a govt, in this case the British Mandate Admin
and the residents of a territory it administers.
The Mandate as you yourself stated many times, was not a sovereign state,
neither founded and administered by or designated for an Arab state.
It was merely and administration, designated by international law,
for helping in the re-constitution of the Jewish National Home.Indeed, it does not fit your Israeli propaganda,I don't quiet understand what are you alluding here...
That brings up some questions that you will not answer.According to the LoN and the Mandate, the JNH was not supposed to be a Jewish state. No Jewish state was created.Israel is entitled to take such measures that may be necessary to secure the State of Israel and the Jewish National Home (JNH) from external forces.
The UN, under Resolution 181, attempted to create a Jewish state but failed.
So no official body created Israel.
Not according to Lon and the Mandate, but according to a later quote by Churchil.
However the language of the international law you've brought up, says the exact opposite:
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home in that country."
Resolution 181 was actually the first time ever an Arab state was suggested,
wasn't binding, and failed. The official body creating Israel was...Israel themselves.
Need that explained?
Why are the West Bank and Gaza Strip called the OPT? (Occupied Palestinian Territory) What are the history and process for that designation?
Why do the Palestinians call Israel "48?"
Indeed, did the Pally's who tried and failed to breach the de jure Israeli borders during the border gee only commit a de jure failure?Did they say de jure borders?So when I post links from Wikipedia that clearly state Israel’s INTERNATIONALLY RECOGNIZED BORDERS, that’s a propaganda site ? Lol!!! You got nothing Tinmore.. nothing but Palestinian lies , and so you claim we use Israeli propaganda sitesLinks to Israeli propaganda sites don't count. What else you got?You need a link that proves Palestine was not a country ? Why ? Every time we post links to counter your bullshit , you still don’t admit you’re wrong ..Who told you that?Poor attempt at a duck.Load of Israeli hooey. Negotiating borders is a final status issue. How can the Palestinians negotiate borders when they have no territory?The Palestinians are the only people who can cede their territory to Israel.
They didn't own any territory, how can they cede it?
You don't make any sense.
How can the Palestinians negotiate borders when they have no territory?
Why should anyone negotiate with the Palestinians, who you admit have no territory?
You make me laugh.
Never was a country, never owned any territory.
Not a duck in sight.
Link?
Yup. This is a well known tactic of Tinmore ..That brings up some questions that you will not answer.According to the LoN and the Mandate, the JNH was not supposed to be a Jewish state. No Jewish state was created.Israel is entitled to take such measures that may be necessary to secure the State of Israel and the Jewish National Home (JNH) from external forces.
The UN, under Resolution 181, attempted to create a Jewish state but failed.
So no official body created Israel.
Not according to Lon and the Mandate, but according to a later quote by Churchil.
However the language of the international law you've brought up, says the exact opposite:
"Whereas recognition has thereby been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for re-constituting their national home in that country."
Resolution 181 was actually the first time ever an Arab state was suggested,
wasn't binding, and failed. The official body creating Israel was...Israel themselves.
Need that explained?
Why are the West Bank and Gaza Strip called the OPT? (Occupied Palestinian Territory) What are the history and process for that designation?
Why do the Palestinians call Israel "48?"
Right, I can but won't.
If you have a point make it, no one has to address your general questions
every time you want to sidestep the lie you've been just caught on.
palwatch.org
www.middleeastmonitor.com
(COMMENT)I was struggling a bit with a statement issued by one of the Islamic terrorist mouthpieces for the PA. Apparently, we’re to believe “peace can only be achieved through talks with it”
RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: “peace can only be achieved through talks with it”
⁜→ Hollie, et al,
BLUF: The words say one thing, but it remains to be seen if this truly represents a paradigm shift (a dynamic change in the worldview underlying the theories and of a central faction within the Palestinian Community).
(COMMENT)I was struggling a bit with a statement issued by one of the Islamic terrorist mouthpieces for the PA. Apparently, we’re to believe “peace can only be achieved through talks with it”
Both the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) and the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) state emphatically:
◈ HAMAS: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."◈ PLO: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void.
While we might hear the words, we do not see any demonstration of this in reality. The Arab Palestinians do not yet, even after a Century since the San Remo Agreement (1920), speak with one unified voice. What HAMAS says is not necessarily what Fatah says. And while the PLO Negotiation Affairs Department outlines nine issues that have been subject to the Permanent Status of Negotiation, which they never get to, HAMAS says:
"The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination."It is more probable that the statement made by the Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad Al-Maliki will be modified and reinterpreted by the Ramallah Government, if it can actually be defined as a government. Yes, the few words by Minister Al-Maliki it will be interesting to see if they actually have any power behind them.
Most Respectfully,
R
Right on!"The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination."
Flail your Pom Poms for islamic terrorist misfits.RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC: “peace can only be achieved through talks with it”
⁜→ Hollie, et al,
BLUF: The words say one thing, but it remains to be seen if this truly represents a paradigm shift (a dynamic change in the worldview underlying the theories and of a central faction within the Palestinian Community).
(COMMENT)I was struggling a bit with a statement issued by one of the Islamic terrorist mouthpieces for the PA. Apparently, we’re to believe “peace can only be achieved through talks with it”
Both the Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) and the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) state emphatically:
◈ HAMAS: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."◈ PLO: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void.
While we might hear the words, we do not see any demonstration of this in reality. The Arab Palestinians do not yet, even after a Century since the San Remo Agreement (1920), speak with one unified voice. What HAMAS says is not necessarily what Fatah says. And while the PLO Negotiation Affairs Department outlines nine issues that have been subject to the Permanent Status of Negotiation, which they never get to, HAMAS says:
"The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination."It is more probable that the statement made by the Palestinian Foreign Minister Riyad Al-Maliki will be modified and reinterpreted by the Ramallah Government, if it can actually be defined as a government. Yes, the few words by Minister Al-Maliki it will be interesting to see if they actually have any power behind them.
Most Respectfully,
RRight on!"The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination."
www.jns.org
