Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[montelatici]

Politically biased legal judgements are evident everywhere, including the United States. How many Muslims do you figure were on the jury in the U.S. case? If it was a jury trial.

 

[Hollie]

Politically biased legal judgements are evident everywhere, including the United States. How many Muslims do you figure were on the jury in the U.S. case? If it was a jury trial.

As I thought, you have nothing to refute the facts of the case. I can understand your tender islamo-sensibilities are offended but that's your issue to deal with.

 

[montelatici]

What islmo sensibilities? I despise Islam.

 

[Phoenall]

It seems you define 'sham" as anything that places accountability on your Islamic terrorist heroes.

All of the money they gave went to charities that were not on the black list. In fact they gave to the same places that the US gave to through USAID.

The prosecutor shoveled shit and got the jury to buy it.

You should educate on the facts of the case. Your apologetics for Islamic terrorists is expected, just dismissed as such.

The fact is that they did not give aid to any designated terrorist organization.

What facts am I missing?

From the link I supplied earlier:

"Today, in federal court in Dallas, U.S. District Judge Jorge A. Solis sentenced the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and five of its leaders following their convictions by a federal jury in November 2008 on charges of providing material support to Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization."

I understood that facts are items you selectively ignore when they negatively affect your islamic terrorist heroes, but why would you expect others to do that?

Nice deflection. You provided no facts.

So trial transcripts are not facts now, or only those that go against the muslims ?

 

[Phoenall]

What islmo sensibilities? I despise Islam.

Not looking at your posts supporting and defending their actions, up to and including mass murder of children because you misunderstand a UN resolution

 

[Phoenall]

Politically biased legal judgements are evident everywhere, including the United States. How many Muslims do you figure were on the jury in the U.S. case? If it was a jury trial.

How many would have given an impartial verdict, bearing in mind they are not allowed to pass judgement on another muslim in an infidel court

 

[Hollie]

Politically biased legal judgements are evident everywhere, including the United States. How many Muslims do you figure were on the jury in the U.S. case? If it was a jury trial.

How many moslems should have been on the jury in the US case? I wasn't aware that Moslem'ness was a factor in jury selection for cases involving Moslem terrorism.

Discuss that with the prayer leader at your madrassah.

 

[P F Tinmore]

All of the money they gave went to charities that were not on the black list. In fact they gave to the same places that the US gave to through USAID.

The prosecutor shoveled shit and got the jury to buy it.

You should educate on the facts of the case. Your apologetics for Islamic terrorists is expected, just dismissed as such.

The fact is that they did not give aid to any designated terrorist organization.

What facts am I missing?

From the link I supplied earlier:

"Today, in federal court in Dallas, U.S. District Judge Jorge A. Solis sentenced the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and five of its leaders following their convictions by a federal jury in November 2008 on charges of providing material support to Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization."

I understood that facts are items you selectively ignore when they negatively affect your islamic terrorist heroes, but why would you expect others to do that?

Nice deflection. You provided no facts.

So trial transcripts are not facts now, or only those that go against the muslims ?

What trial transcripts?

What "facts" are you talking about.

 

[Phoenall]

You should educate on the facts of the case. Your apologetics for Islamic terrorists is expected, just dismissed as such.

The fact is that they did not give aid to any designated terrorist organization.

What facts am I missing?

From the link I supplied earlier:

"Today, in federal court in Dallas, U.S. District Judge Jorge A. Solis sentenced the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and five of its leaders following their convictions by a federal jury in November 2008 on charges of providing material support to Hamas, a designated foreign terrorist organization."

I understood that facts are items you selectively ignore when they negatively affect your islamic terrorist heroes, but why would you expect others to do that?

Nice deflection. You provided no facts.

So trial transcripts are not facts now, or only those that go against the muslims ?

What trial transcripts?

What "facts" are you talking about.

Read the above and see, it is there for anyone with two brain cells to read it. It clearly says that the defendants had been found guilty of the crime of providing material support to hamas a known and designated terrorist organisation

 

[RoccoR]

et al,

It is virtually impossible to discuss any facet of the Israeli-Palestinian dispute with the pro-Palestinians.It really doesn't matter what aspect of the dispute you address, the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) believe that they have the superior position.

Again, the HoAP hold the position that in 1967, Israel occupied Palestinian territory. However, in 1967, there was no State of Palestine.

EXCERPT: The Borders of Palestine: A Brief Background

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This is a very subtle twist in the actual facts. While it sounds truthful, it is actually a very good piece of fallacious propaganda.

• The Armistice Line CANNOT BE the "internationally recognized border between Israel and the occupied State of Palestine." Why? Because in 1967 there was no State of Palestine. The State of Palestine is not declared until November 1988.
• In July 1988, the Hashemite Kingdom dissolved all ties with the West Bank Territory it annexed in April 1950. Upon cutting all ties, the West Bank (formerly the Israel occupied sovereign territory of Jordan). When the Jordanians cut all ties, and politically abandon the West Bank, it became unincorporated terra nullius in the hands of the Israeli government.
• In this key PLO-NAD position, the claim is that (as you can see) "no state may acquire territory by force." While the applicability of this "concept" is debatable, the true fact remains that Israel did NOT:

§ Incorporate the territory.
§ The territory was "abandon" by Jordan as the sovereign power.
§ With the exception of the land in Jerusalem, annexed by Israel, Israel DID NOT claim sovereignty over any part of the West Bank. Israel maintains effective control as required by the Hague Regulation.
​

While the PLO-NAD makes some valid points concerning the various disputes, the one most often heard repeated is that of territory.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[montelatici]

While the native people in any colonial project usually have an inferior power position with respect to violent colonial invaders, in this case violent zionist colonial invaders(VCZIs), the native people have a superior position morally and legally.

Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers.

I don't see any other viable options.

 

[Hollie]

While the native people in any colonial project usually have an inferior power position with respect to violent colonial invaders, in this case violent zionist colonial invaders(VCZIs), the native people have a superior position morally and legally.

Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers.

I don't see any other viable options.

Your continued misrepresentation of some "invasion" you claim happened suggests you're little more than just another
islamo-propagandist

 

[Dogmaphobe]

et al,

It is virtually impossible to discuss any facet of the Israeli-Palestinian dispute with the pro-Palestinians.

Just as it is impossible to discuss carbon dating with an ignorant fundamentalist who thinks the world is only 6000 years old.

The combination of utter stupidity, an extreme herd instinct and an unquestioning nature allows for no rational discourse.

The best way to understand rabid Pallywood supporters is by understanding the psychology of cults, and the demented individuals who place the promotion of Arab interests as the centerpiece of their lives should be treated as members of a cult too far gone for any reasonable outcome.

 

[montelatici]

While the native people in any colonial project usually have an inferior power position with respect to violent colonial invaders, in this case violent zionist colonial invaders(VCZIs), the native people have a superior position morally and legally.

Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers.

I don't see any other viable options.

Your continued misrepresentation of some "invasion" you claim happened suggests you're little more than just another
islamo-propagandist

What is it called when people from one place go to another place, on another continent in this case, take over the land and expel and/or subjugate the native inhabitants? Unless you are afflicted with a severe case of cognizant dissonance, it cannot be denied that it was a de facto invasion. But, if you have another name for it please share.

 

[Hollie]

While the native people in any colonial project usually have an inferior power position with respect to violent colonial invaders, in this case violent zionist colonial invaders(VCZIs), the native people have a superior position morally and legally.

Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers.

I don't see any other viable options.

Your continued misrepresentation of some "invasion" you claim happened suggests you're little more than just another
islamo-propagandist

What is it called when people from one place go to another place, on another continent in this case, take over the land and expel and/or subjugate the native inhabitants? Unless you are afflicted with a severe case of cognizant dissonance, it cannot be denied that it was a de facto invasion. But, if you have another name for it please share.

An appropriate description for your "cognizant dissonance" would otherwise be profound ignorance. This has all been addressed before so your inability to fathom some pretty simple concepts is concerning. Your cutting and pasting of the same slogans and clichés is really comical. It reinforces the impression that you're simply a failed propagandist.

 

[Phoenall]

While the native people in any colonial project usually have an inferior power position with respect to violent colonial invaders, in this case violent zionist colonial invaders(VCZIs), the native people have a superior position morally and legally.

Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers.

I don't see any other viable options.

LIAR The arab muslims were not stopped from declaring a state in 1988, and they are the ones that have stopped themselves from taking the last steps towards full statehood and self determination. They know they will lose UNWRA the day they do so, and have to accept censure by the UN every time they resort to violence against Israel and/or the Jews.

 

[Phoenall]

While the native people in any colonial project usually have an inferior power position with respect to violent colonial invaders, in this case violent zionist colonial invaders(VCZIs), the native people have a superior position morally and legally.

Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers.

I don't see any other viable options.

Your continued misrepresentation of some "invasion" you claim happened suggests you're little more than just another
islamo-propagandist

What is it called when people from one place go to another place, on another continent in this case, take over the land and expel and/or subjugate the native inhabitants? Unless you are afflicted with a severe case of cognizant dissonance, it cannot be denied that it was a de facto invasion. But, if you have another name for it please share.

It is called migration, and in this case the Jews were invited by the lands legal owners. The arab muslims invaded and tried to colonise the land illegally and by force, sent by the arab league for this very purpose. Historical records say this is fact, and only morons that support islamonazi terrorism say otherwise.

 

[montelatici]

Well, fantasists such as you with little education, as can be discerned by your inarticulate writing style, can never accept the facts or simple definitions. That is why it is clear that you are suffering under a severe case of cognizant dissonance. In other words, you are delusional for not accepting the fact that people from one place going to another place with the intent to subjugate the native people and take over the levers of power, is an invasion. Full stop.

In any case, we are not discussing the invasion and subjugation of the native people here, we are discussing the post-invasion/colonization situation and the possible solutions.

I stated that:

"Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers."

And concluded that I did not see other options. If you have another viable option present it.

 

[Hollie]

Well, fantasists such as you with little education, as can be discerned by your inarticulate writing style, can never accept the facts or simple definitions. That is why it is clear that you are suffering under a severe case of cognizant dissonance. In other words, you are delusional for not accepting the fact that people from one place going to another place with the intent to subjugate the native people and take over the levers of power, is an invasion. Full stop.

In any case, we are not discussing the invasion and subjugation of the native people here, we are discussing the post-invasion/colonization situation and the possible solutions.

I stated that:

"Given that the VCZIs have a this position of power sustained by other historical colonial invaders, and there is no intention of permitting the establishment of an autonomous state for the native people, the choices are to become a pariah and either ethnically cleanse or otherwise eliminate the native presence in the area under the control of the colonizers or to integrate the native population into to the state established by the colonizers."

And concluded that I did not see other options. If you have another viable option present it.

You're angry and emotive and left with nothing to bolster your failed argument. Your silly "invasion" slogan does nothing but reinforce your self-inflicted ignorance.

 

[Hollie]

It truly is a shame that a sinister cult personality can come to define a collection of people such as Arabs-Moslems posing as Pal'istanians. In no other society is mass murder, the infliction of death and suffering and willful suicide in the name of a "religion" given such glorification.


New PA school named after mastermind of Munich Olympics massacre - PMW Bulletins

PMW Bulletins
New PA school named after mastermind of Munich Olympics massacre

New PA school
named for mastermind
of Munich Olympics massacre

PA official on importance of school's name:
"To commemorate the memory of this great national fighter"

• School in West Bank named after Salah Khalaf, head of Black September terror group. Attacks he planned include murder of 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics and murder of 2 American diplomats in Sudan

• PA Ministry of Education is responsible for naming schools

• This is the 4th PA school named after terrorist Salah Khalaf

• PMW has written to the European Union which funds the Palestinian Authority Ministry of Education to condition its funding on the PA changing the names of all schools named after terrorists