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Your conspiracy theories are a hoot.
Who Are The Palestinians " III "
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Gee, whiz. A weapons cache that a'splodid In a home.
A home was martyred. Lets hope no korans were also martyred.
A terrorist weapon cache in a home in Khan Younis, Gaza, exploded on Tuesday, killing one and injuring several, according to IDF international spokesperson Lt. Col. Richard Hecht and Palestinian media
A home was martyred. Lets hope no korans were also martyred.
A terrorist weapon cache in a home in Khan Younis, Gaza, exploded on Tuesday, killing one and injuring several, according to IDF international spokesperson Lt. Col. Richard Hecht and Palestinian media
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As noted before, your conspiracy theories are a hoot.
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Doing what totalitarian dictators do, Hamas and their Shia Islamic terrorist cohorts, having suffered some embarrassment over pallys being killed by PIJ fired rockets, have decided to shut down reporting on their incompetence.
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On Tuesday August 9, the Associated Press reported that the Hamas authorities in Gaza had issued sweeping new restrictions on journalists reporting from the territory. Journalists were reportedly instructed not to write that rockets fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad had fallen short and killed residents of Gaza, including several children. Furthermore, they were expected to blame Israel for the fighting, in the stories they wrote reporting on the hostilities.
There’s Nothing New About Hamas Media Restrictions
From the blog of David I. Roytenberg at The Times of Israel
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On Tuesday August 9, the Associated Press reported that the Hamas authorities in Gaza had issued sweeping new restrictions on journalists reporting from the territory. Journalists were reportedly instructed not to write that rockets fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad had fallen short and killed residents of Gaza, including several children. Furthermore, they were expected to blame Israel for the fighting, in the stories they wrote reporting on the hostilities.
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EXPLAINER: What is driving the current Israel-Gaza violence
Israel and Palestinian militants in Gaza are exchanging fire in the worst bout of cross-border violence since an 11-day war between Israel and Hamas last year.
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EXPLAINER: What is driving the current Israel-Gaza violence?
What an odd question.
Answer: 1,400 years of kuffar hating, Islamic supremacist ideology.
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Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), the Gaza-based terrorist organization, repeatedly used civilians to shield its fighters and rockets from Israeli airstrikes during clashes earlier this month. The use of human shields is a war crime. It also triggers a law that Congress passed unanimously in 2018, authorizing the president to name — and impose sanctions on – terrorists who use human shields. Yet neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump has taken this important step to hold terrorists accountable.
PIJ is one of several terrorist groups that heavily uses human shields against Western militaries. Hamas and Hezbollah, which like PIJ are funded and armed by Iran, have regularly used human shields against Israel and are expected to again in future conflicts. Meanwhile, the Islamic State and Taliban have in recent years persistently, and effectively, used human shields against U.S. and other NATO forces.
All of these groups engage in the actual war crime of using human shields to lay the groundwork for false accusations that the U.S., Israeli, and other Western militaries deliberately kill civilians.
NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander, U.S. Army General Curtis Scaparrotti, said in 2019 that NATO’s adversaries, especially in the Middle East, “have not hesitated to use the prohibited practice of human shields,” as doing so forces NATO troops “to choose between not taking action against legitimate military targets or seeing their actions, and the overall mission, delegitimized.”
PIJ’s use of human shields in Gaza this month killed numerous Palestinian children and other civilians. That is common. What is unusual is the video evidence demonstrating that PIJ caused these Palestinian deaths, undermining accusations that they were Israel’s fault. For example, during a live broadcast on August 7, Lebanon’s Mayadeen TV caught a PIJ rocket misfiring and coming down in a Gaza neighborhood.
The Associated Press noted that “live TV footage” showed PIJ rockets “falling short in densely packed residential neighborhoods,” and sent its reporters to visit the sites and analyze the death toll. On August 8, AP announced that its reporting was “consistent with” an Israeli military assessment that of the 47 Palestinians killed during the August 5-7 fighting, some 12 of the 15 Palestinian children killed, and 16 of the total 27 Palestinian civilians killed, died as a direct result of those PIJ rockets.
(full article online)
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PIJ is one of several terrorist groups that heavily uses human shields against Western militaries. Hamas and Hezbollah, which like PIJ are funded and armed by Iran, have regularly used human shields against Israel and are expected to again in future conflicts. Meanwhile, the Islamic State and Taliban have in recent years persistently, and effectively, used human shields against U.S. and other NATO forces.
All of these groups engage in the actual war crime of using human shields to lay the groundwork for false accusations that the U.S., Israeli, and other Western militaries deliberately kill civilians.
NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander, U.S. Army General Curtis Scaparrotti, said in 2019 that NATO’s adversaries, especially in the Middle East, “have not hesitated to use the prohibited practice of human shields,” as doing so forces NATO troops “to choose between not taking action against legitimate military targets or seeing their actions, and the overall mission, delegitimized.”
PIJ’s use of human shields in Gaza this month killed numerous Palestinian children and other civilians. That is common. What is unusual is the video evidence demonstrating that PIJ caused these Palestinian deaths, undermining accusations that they were Israel’s fault. For example, during a live broadcast on August 7, Lebanon’s Mayadeen TV caught a PIJ rocket misfiring and coming down in a Gaza neighborhood.
The Associated Press noted that “live TV footage” showed PIJ rockets “falling short in densely packed residential neighborhoods,” and sent its reporters to visit the sites and analyze the death toll. On August 8, AP announced that its reporting was “consistent with” an Israeli military assessment that of the 47 Palestinians killed during the August 5-7 fighting, some 12 of the 15 Palestinian children killed, and 16 of the total 27 Palestinian civilians killed, died as a direct result of those PIJ rockets.
(full article online)
The Use of Human Shields Is a War Crime. America Must Hold Terrorists Accountable
A robust U.S. government response to the use of human shields by PIJ and other terrorist groups would concretely advance several American national security and foreign policy objectives.
www.19fortyfive.com
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A seven-year-old Israeli girl was shot in the stomach on Saturday morning while splaying in the front yard of her home in Kochav Ya’akov, a Jewish town in Samaria some 10 minutes north of Jerusalem.
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Solam added that her daughters usually spend Saturday afternoons “playing in the garden” in front of their home. But on this Saturday, the girls “suddenly came back very upset and scared.”
Initially, the said that someone had hit her with a thorn. The mother then lifted up the child’s shirt and saw an entry-and-exit wound from the bullet and a large amount of blood.
The IDF said in a statement that the girl was likely shot accidentally by a “stray bullet” fired from the direction of Qalandiya, a nearby Palestinian Authority-controlled Arab town. However, a security official expressed doubt over that characterization of the incident.
Speaking to Israel National News, the official said he believed that terrorists had intentionally shot at the town and that the perpetrators had successfully fled the scene and evaded capture.
(full article online)
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Solam added that her daughters usually spend Saturday afternoons “playing in the garden” in front of their home. But on this Saturday, the girls “suddenly came back very upset and scared.”
Initially, the said that someone had hit her with a thorn. The mother then lifted up the child’s shirt and saw an entry-and-exit wound from the bullet and a large amount of blood.
The IDF said in a statement that the girl was likely shot accidentally by a “stray bullet” fired from the direction of Qalandiya, a nearby Palestinian Authority-controlled Arab town. However, a security official expressed doubt over that characterization of the incident.
Speaking to Israel National News, the official said he believed that terrorists had intentionally shot at the town and that the perpetrators had successfully fled the scene and evaded capture.
(full article online)
7-year-old Israeli girl shot by Arabs while playing in front yard | World Israel News
'I'm really shocked, I can't process it,' the girl's mother said. The child is expected to make a full recovery.
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As a direct result of the action taken by Palestinian Media Watch, the banks in the Palestinian Authority closed the accounts of 35,000 terrorists. After an initial period of turmoil, the PA decided to squander millions of dollars to create a new terror payment system based on the PA postal service. The new system enables the PA to pay 52 million shekels (circa $16 million) every month to 11,000 terrorist prisoners and released prisoners and an unknown number of wounded terrorists and families of dead terrorists (so-called "Martyrs"). While the initial system only gave the terrorists access to the PA payments, Palestinian “researchers and experts in the fields of finance, business, and economy are calling to strengthen and expand the monetary services” provided to the terrorists by the postal service.
Speaking at a conference, Dr. Rabah Morrar explained that “one of the most important justifications for the postal bank’s existence is the provision of financial services to the prisoners”:
The banks heeded PMW’s warning and closed 35,000 accounts of terrorists.
Refusing to abandon its terror reward program and ignoring the new legislation, the PA decided to set up a new payment system. After much consideration and financial outlay, the PA created a system in which every terrorist would have his own account in the PA postal bank into which the PA would pay the monthly salaries of the terrorists. To access the funds, the PA gave every terrorist a designated ATM card, which could only be used in specific ATM machines, adjacent to the PA postal service.
Every month the PA pays tens of millions of shekels/dollars/euros to terrorists and their families. These payments are divided into two. Terrorist prisoners and released terrorists receive a monthly “salary” that increases with time spent in prison. As noted by Dr. Morrar, the PA payments to the terrorist prisoners and released terrorists are circa 52 million shekels per month. In addition, the PA pays wounded terrorists and the families of dead terrorists a monthly allowance. While there is no public record quantifying the extent of this PA expense, PMW has estimated that it is no less than 20 million shekels (circa $6.15 million) per month.
The following is a longer excerpt of the report cited above
(full article online)
palwatch.org
Speaking at a conference, Dr. Rabah Morrar explained that “one of the most important justifications for the postal bank’s existence is the provision of financial services to the prisoners”:
In April 2020, PMW wrote to the banks operating in the PA and informed them that provisions of Israel’s 2016 Anti-Terror Law had been incorporated into the law in Judea and Samaria. Since two of the provisions specifically outlawed the payment of any reward for the commission of a terror offense, PMW warned the banks that if they continued to hold the bank accounts of the terrorists who were receiving payments from the PA, they would potentially expose themselves to both civil and criminal liability.
The banks heeded PMW’s warning and closed 35,000 accounts of terrorists.
Refusing to abandon its terror reward program and ignoring the new legislation, the PA decided to set up a new payment system. After much consideration and financial outlay, the PA created a system in which every terrorist would have his own account in the PA postal bank into which the PA would pay the monthly salaries of the terrorists. To access the funds, the PA gave every terrorist a designated ATM card, which could only be used in specific ATM machines, adjacent to the PA postal service.
Every month the PA pays tens of millions of shekels/dollars/euros to terrorists and their families. These payments are divided into two. Terrorist prisoners and released terrorists receive a monthly “salary” that increases with time spent in prison. As noted by Dr. Morrar, the PA payments to the terrorist prisoners and released terrorists are circa 52 million shekels per month. In addition, the PA pays wounded terrorists and the families of dead terrorists a monthly allowance. While there is no public record quantifying the extent of this PA expense, PMW has estimated that it is no less than 20 million shekels (circa $6.15 million) per month.
The following is a longer excerpt of the report cited above
(full article online)
PA postal service is an integral part of the PAâs âPay-for-Slayâ terror reward policy | PMW Analysis
PA postal together with Terror service
palwatch.org
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WOW, you played 19 terrorist cards in one post.As a direct result of the action taken by Palestinian Media Watch, the banks in the Palestinian Authority closed the accounts of 35,000 terrorists. After an initial period of turmoil, the PA decided to squander millions of dollars to create a new terror payment system based on the PA postal service. The new system enables the PA to pay 52 million shekels (circa $16 million) every month to 11,000 terrorist prisoners and released prisoners and an unknown number of wounded terrorists and families of dead terrorists (so-called "Martyrs"). While the initial system only gave the terrorists access to the PA payments, Palestinian “researchers and experts in the fields of finance, business, and economy are calling to strengthen and expand the monetary services” provided to the terrorists by the postal service.
Speaking at a conference, Dr. Rabah Morrar explained that “one of the most important justifications for the postal bank’s existence is the provision of financial services to the prisoners”:
In April 2020, PMW wrote to the banks operating in the PA and informed them that provisions of Israel’s 2016 Anti-Terror Law had been incorporated into the law in Judea and Samaria. Since two of the provisions specifically outlawed the payment of any reward for the commission of a terror offense, PMW warned the banks that if they continued to hold the bank accounts of the terrorists who were receiving payments from the PA, they would potentially expose themselves to both civil and criminal liability.
The banks heeded PMW’s warning and closed 35,000 accounts of terrorists.
Refusing to abandon its terror reward program and ignoring the new legislation, the PA decided to set up a new payment system. After much consideration and financial outlay, the PA created a system in which every terrorist would have his own account in the PA postal bank into which the PA would pay the monthly salaries of the terrorists. To access the funds, the PA gave every terrorist a designated ATM card, which could only be used in specific ATM machines, adjacent to the PA postal service.
Every month the PA pays tens of millions of shekels/dollars/euros to terrorists and their families. These payments are divided into two. Terrorist prisoners and released terrorists receive a monthly “salary” that increases with time spent in prison. As noted by Dr. Morrar, the PA payments to the terrorist prisoners and released terrorists are circa 52 million shekels per month. In addition, the PA pays wounded terrorists and the families of dead terrorists a monthly allowance. While there is no public record quantifying the extent of this PA expense, PMW has estimated that it is no less than 20 million shekels (circa $6.15 million) per month.
The following is a longer excerpt of the report cited above
(full article online)
PA postal service is an integral part of the PAâs âPay-for-Slayâ terror reward policy | PMW Analysis
PA postal together with Terror service
Israel should give you a raise.
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It makes one wonder if discarding your children to the gee-had while being on the islamic terrorist payroll results in a larger payment from Abbas.
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Fathers of Jenin, Nablus terrorists hold senior jobs in PA security forces
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH Published: AUGUST 10, 2022 14:23
Updated: AUGUST 10, 2022 21:45
In the past, there have been a number of instances in which the family members of senior PA security officials were involved in anti-Israel attacks.
The father of Ibrahim al-Nabulsi, the gunman killed by the IDF in the Old City of Nablus on Tuesday morning, is a senior officer with the Palestinian Authority’s Preventive Security Service
Fathers of Jenin, Nablus terrorists hold senior jobs in PA security
In the past, there have been a number of instances in which the family members of senior PA security officials were involved in anti-Israel attacks.
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Fathers of Jenin, Nablus terrorists hold senior jobs in PA security forces
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH Published: AUGUST 10, 2022 14:23
Updated: AUGUST 10, 2022 21:45
In the past, there have been a number of instances in which the family members of senior PA security officials were involved in anti-Israel attacks.
The father of Ibrahim al-Nabulsi, the gunman killed by the IDF in the Old City of Nablus on Tuesday morning, is a senior officer with the Palestinian Authority’s Preventive Security Service
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RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC:
※→. P F Tinmore, et al,
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The question becomes, under what criteria are you comparing the language?
Challenge the definition used as it effects the conversation.
This derailment you have inserted, actually has no relevance to the conclusion. The discussion was about the closure of accounts --- and --- NOT which organizations or specific people are considered targets for closure.
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Most Respectfully,
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SUBTOPIC:
※→. P F Tinmore, et al,
“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.”
― Confucius.
(COMMENT)
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The question becomes, under what criteria are you comparing the language?
Challenge the definition used as it effects the conversation.
This derailment you have inserted, actually has no relevance to the conclusion. The discussion was about the closure of accounts --- and --- NOT which organizations or specific people are considered targets for closure.
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Most Respectfully,
R
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- Abbas was obviously not thinking about these prisoners when he expressed concern over the conditions of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. He seems uncomfortable discussing the fact that his security forces are arresting and torturing Palestinians.
- Instead, Abbas would like the world to focus only on the prisoners held by Israel and ignore the protests against the "political detentions" that take place every week not far from his office and residence in Ramallah.
- Hours before Abbas's remarks about the prisoners in Israel, the mother of Ahmad Hreash, a Palestinian man arrested by the Palestinian security forces more than 80 days ago, was rushed to hospital. She has been on hunger strike for 10 days to demand the release of her son from the Palestinians' notorious Jericho Prison. The prison is infamously referred to by Palestinians as the "Jericho Slaughterhouse" because of brutal torture Palestinians say they have undergone while being held there by Abbas's security forces.
- "They keep extending his detention without us, or even the lawyer, knowing what the charges are." — Mukaram Qurt, mother of Ahmad Hreash, Al Jazeera, August 25, 2022.
- Palestinian Lawyers for Justice, a human rights group, said that it has documented 117 cases of "political detentions" by the Palestinian security forces since the beginning of June 2022.
- The detainees include six Palestinians who had previously served time in Israeli prison for anti-Israeli activities and are currently being held in the "Jericho Slaughterhouse." The group noted that the Palestinian security forces were continuing to imprison Palestinians because of their political affiliation of for criticizing and opposing the Palestinian Authority.
- "They hit me with their legs and hands. They beat me with rubber hoses. They put me in a tiny cell with no mattresses or pillows. I had to use my shoe as a pillow while sleeping on the floor." — Mujahed Tabanjah, Palestinian journalist, Facebook, August 16, 2022.
- Alarmed by the ongoing crackdown on political opponents and other Palestinians, several Palestinian activists launched an online campaign titled "Political Detention is a Crime," in protest of the arrests and torture in Palestinian prisons.
- When Palestinians arrest or brutally torture other Palestinians, it does not appear to be "news that's fit to print." Palestinians who go on hunger strikes in Palestinian prisons are often ignored by the media, while those who protest against Israel receive wide coverage.
- By ignoring the horrific human rights violations committed by the Palestinian Authority, the international community and media expose their hypocrisy in dealing with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. They are also doing an incalculable disservice to the Palestinian people, many of whom have been victimized by their own leaders.
(full article online)
Palestinians: The Arrests and Torture No One Talks About
Abbas was obviously not thinking about these prisoners when he expressed concern over the conditions of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. He seems uncomfortable discussing the fact that his security forces are arresting and torturing Palestinians.
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What am I derailing? The fact that all colonial powers call resistance to colonialism terrorists.RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC:
※→. P F Tinmore, et al,
“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their proper name.”
― Confucius
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The question becomes, under what criteria are you comparing the language?
Challenge the definition used as it effects the conversation.
This derailment you have inserted, actually has no relevance to the conclusion. The discussion was about the closure of accounts --- and --- NOT which organizations or specific people are considered targets for closure.
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Most Respectfully,
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Not true.
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Appeasing Islamic terrorists will never end well. Israel is repeating the same pattern of making concessions to the Pallys who have every intention of exploiting those concessions to wage gee-had and attack Israelis.
m.jpost.com
Three terror attacks in one week left 11 victims and four terrorists dead in the streets of Israel. And on Thursday, a screwdriver-wielding attacker in Gush Etzion, south of Jerusalem, left a bus passenger hospitalized in serious condition before being slain
Hamas’ terrorism threats could backfire, experts say
Recent increase in permits for Palestinians to work in Israel, other Israeli concessions in jeopardy if violence worsens.
m.jpost.com
Recent increase in permits for Palestinians to work in Israel, other Israeli concessions in jeopardy if violence worsens.
Three terror attacks in one week left 11 victims and four terrorists dead in the streets of Israel. And on Thursday, a screwdriver-wielding attacker in Gush Etzion, south of Jerusalem, left a bus passenger hospitalized in serious condition before being slain
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RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC:
※→. P F Tinmore, et al,
The discussion was really about the focus of concern over the conditions of Palestinian prisoners held by the Israelis versus the concern over the conditions of Israeli Prisoners held by the Palestinians.
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1. There are no colonial powers operating in the Middle East.
2. Terrorism is NOT the view held by the political criminal, but rather how the citizens view the direct attacks by the political criminal.
3. The quibbling over the noun nomenclature difference is a propaganda tool.
IF the organization:
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Most Respectfully,
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SUBTOPIC:
※→. P F Tinmore, et al,
The discussion was really about the focus of concern over the conditions of Palestinian prisoners held by the Israelis versus the concern over the conditions of Israeli Prisoners held by the Palestinians.
(COMMENT)
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1. There are no colonial powers operating in the Middle East.
2. Terrorism is NOT the view held by the political criminal, but rather how the citizens view the direct attacks by the political criminal.
3. The quibbling over the noun nomenclature difference is a propaganda tool.
IF the organization:
◈ Performs Criminal Acts directed against a State with the intention of → or calculated to → cause death or serious bodily injury to the civilian population,
◈ Performs Criminal Acts directed against citizens not taking an active part in the hostilities,
◈ Performs Criminal Acts with the purpose of such act, is to intimidate a population and to compel a government to further the criminal objective.
THEN; "terrorism" is the correct terminology..
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What if it is a settler colonial state built on stolen land?RE: Who Are The Palestinians " III "
SUBTOPIC:
※→. P F Tinmore, et al,
The discussion was really about the focus of concern over the conditions of Palestinian prisoners held by the Israelis versus the concern over the conditions of Israeli Prisoners held by the Palestinians.
(COMMENT)
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1. There are no colonial powers operating in the Middle East.
2. Terrorism is NOT the view held by the political criminal, but rather how the citizens view the direct attacks by the political criminal.
3. The quibbling over the noun nomenclature difference is a propaganda tool.
IF the organization:
◈ Performs Criminal Acts directed against a State with the intention of → or calculated to → cause death or serious bodily injury to the civilian population, ◈ Performs Criminal Acts directed against citizens not taking an active part in the hostilities,◈ Performs Criminal Acts with the purpose of such act, is to intimidate a population and to compel a government to further the criminal objective.THEN; "terrorism" is the correct terminology.
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Terrorism is a political name calling thing.
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Don't call Arab terrorists, terrorists, you'll make Tinny sad.
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Using India as a case study, Joseph McQuade demonstrates how the modern concept of terrorism was shaped by colonial emergency laws dating back into the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. Beginning with the 'thugs', 'pirates', and 'fanatics' of the nineteenth century, McQuade traces the emerging and novel legal category of 'the terrorist' in early twentieth-century colonial law, ending with an examination of the first international law to target global terrorism in the 1930s. Drawing on a wide range of archival research and a detailed empirical study of evolving emergency laws in British India, he argues that the idea of terrorism emerged as a deliberate strategy by officials seeking to depoliticize the actions of anti-colonial revolutionaries, and that many of the ideas embedded in this colonial legislation continue to shape contemporary understandings of terrorism today.
A Genealogy of Terrorism | South Asian history
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