White supremacist still using blacks have a lower IQ rhetoric?

[buddhallah_the_christ]

White supremacist still using blacks have a lower IQ rhetoric?

No, not at all. Just stating the obvious...white people = much more intelligence that black people. Black people seem to have more athletic ability...except in baseyboll.

Oh and in MMA.

I always found that pretty funny since most white supremacists aren't that bright and not all black people have an athletic ability.

 

[RosieS]

What IQ tests measure is language and spacial aptitudes.

That leaves out at least six other measures of intelligence, so standard IQ tests really don't measure IQ.

Those that wish to measure IQ do not want to spend the time or the money to actually measure IQ fully, so they depend on a seriously flawed measurement device.

It is, in real life terms, a meaningless score.

It is like giving driver licenses to those who can provide their signature.

Regards from Rosie

What about the fact that similar gaps are found in SAT scores?

If you think back to the SAT, it tested language and math. Essay writing is also now tested.

That is not much different than IQ tests, except that with IQ testing you get to play with red and white blocks.

Important areas such as musical ability, mechanical ability, interpersonal skills, kinesthetic sense, aesthetic sense and other talents and abilities go untouched.

Having a diverse skill set is a hallmark of our species but we only test a small subset of human intelligences. Most intelligences do not appear on paper and pencil exams.

Regards from Rosie

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

IQ tests are extremely flawed. They are only a good measure when comparing people in the same locales who live under similar economic conditions.

That actually isn't true. You can read the about entire history of this phenomenon here... Race and intelligence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

It IS true. I have an entire careers worth of experience regarding IQ testing.

You, Godboy, can kindly go **** yourself. In 100 years you'll be remembered as a complete fool.

He's considered a complete fool now, no need to wait.

 

[Muhammed]

IQ tests are extremely flawed.

I wonder why jerks who score very low on IQ tests feel that way?

LMAO

So you're a dumbass? Who cares? Seriously! That doesn't mean you're a bad person.

For instance, I have an IQ that is higher than 99.999% of the world's population. That does not make me better than anyone else.

How many friends would I have if I rejected every single person with a lower IQ than myself? Close to zero.

 

[Correll]

What IQ tests measure is language and spacial aptitudes.

That leaves out at least six other measures of intelligence, so standard IQ tests really don't measure IQ.

Those that wish to measure IQ do not want to spend the time or the money to actually measure IQ fully, so they depend on a seriously flawed measurement device.

It is, in real life terms, a meaningless score.

It is like giving driver licenses to those who can provide their signature.

Regards from Rosie

What about the fact that similar gaps are found in SAT scores?

If you think back to the SAT, it tested language and math. Essay writing is also now tested.

That is not much different than IQ tests, except that with IQ testing you get to play with red and white blocks.

Important areas such as musical ability, mechanical ability, interpersonal skills, kinesthetic sense, aesthetic sense and other talents and abilities go untouched.

Having a diverse skill set is a hallmark of our species but we only test a small subset of human intelligences. Most intelligences do not appear on paper and pencil exams.

Regards from Rosie

So, are there any tests that you think are good, and that show that there is NOT a gap? Link please.

 

[RosieS]

What IQ tests measure is language and spacial aptitudes.

That leaves out at least six other measures of intelligence, so standard IQ tests really don't measure IQ.

Those that wish to measure IQ do not want to spend the time or the money to actually measure IQ fully, so they depend on a seriously flawed measurement device.

It is, in real life terms, a meaningless score.

It is like giving driver licenses to those who can provide their signature.

Regards from Rosie

What about the fact that similar gaps are found in SAT scores?

If you think back to the SAT, it tested language and math. Essay writing is also now tested.

That is not much different than IQ tests, except that with IQ testing you get to play with red and white blocks.

Important areas such as musical ability, mechanical ability, interpersonal skills, kinesthetic sense, aesthetic sense and other talents and abilities go untouched.

Having a diverse skill set is a hallmark of our species but we only test a small subset of human intelligences. Most intelligences do not appear on paper and pencil exams.

Regards from Rosie

So, are there any tests that you think are good, and that show that there is NOT a gap? Link please.

No, there are not, and those that do the testing know that the tests are flawed and too limited.

Industries and post-secondary institutions have developed their own means for assessing skills and abilities. These types vary from hands-on demonstrations to portfolios to auditions.

Regards from Rosie

 

[Correll]

What IQ tests measure is language and spacial aptitudes.

That leaves out at least six other measures of intelligence, so standard IQ tests really don't measure IQ.

Those that wish to measure IQ do not want to spend the time or the money to actually measure IQ fully, so they depend on a seriously flawed measurement device.

It is, in real life terms, a meaningless score.

It is like giving driver licenses to those who can provide their signature.

Regards from Rosie

What about the fact that similar gaps are found in SAT scores?

If you think back to the SAT, it tested language and math. Essay writing is also now tested.

That is not much different than IQ tests, except that with IQ testing you get to play with red and white blocks.

Important areas such as musical ability, mechanical ability, interpersonal skills, kinesthetic sense, aesthetic sense and other talents and abilities go untouched.

Having a diverse skill set is a hallmark of our species but we only test a small subset of human intelligences. Most intelligences do not appear on paper and pencil exams.

Regards from Rosie

So, are there any tests that you think are good, and that show that there is NOT a gap? Link please.

No, there are not, and those that do the testing know that the tests are flawed and too limited.

Industries and post-secondary institutions have developed their own means for assessing skills and abilities. These types vary from hands-on demonstrations to portfolios to auditions.

Regards from Rosie

Hypothetically, if a process was developed that included ALL OF THAT, including the ability to know where one's body is as part of intelligence, and the gap was pretty much the same,

Would that information effect your world view or positions on the issues at all?

 

[IanC]

g , the general intelligence factor is there whether you test for it or not. being pissed off at IQ tests is like blaming thermometers for Miami being warmer than NYC.

more g helps you make faster decisions with less mistakes because you find, recognize and use patterns to a higher degree than someone with less g.

success takes both character and smarts. smarts may not overwhelm character it sure gives a better chance to the smarter one.

 

[IanC]

What IQ tests measure is language and spacial aptitudes.

That leaves out at least six other measures of intelligence, so standard IQ tests really don't measure IQ.

Those that wish to measure IQ do not want to spend the time or the money to actually measure IQ fully, so they depend on a seriously flawed measurement device.

It is, in real life terms, a meaningless score.

It is like giving driver licenses to those who can provide their signature.

Regards from Rosie

What about the fact that similar gaps are found in SAT scores?

If you think back to the SAT, it tested language and math. Essay writing is also now tested.

That is not much different than IQ tests, except that with IQ testing you get to play with red and white blocks.

Important areas such as musical ability, mechanical ability, interpersonal skills, kinesthetic sense, aesthetic sense and other talents and abilities go untouched.

Having a diverse skill set is a hallmark of our species but we only test a small subset of human intelligences. Most intelligences do not appear on paper and pencil exams.

Regards from Rosie

So, are there any tests that you think are good, and that show that there is NOT a gap? Link please.

No, there are not, and those that do the testing know that the tests are flawed and too limited.

Industries and post-secondary institutions have developed their own means for assessing skills and abilities. These types vary from hands-on demonstrations to portfolios to auditions.

Regards from Rosie

I call bullshit on that. the use of other forms of assessing people is driven by political correctness. intelligence testing does a much better job of predicting who will succeed at a job than testing any other factor. just ask the military. no one gets in with an IQ less than 90 because they cannot be trained.

 

[Porker]

White supremacist still using blacks have a lower IQ rhetoric?

No, not at all. Just stating the obvious...white people = much more intelligence that black people. Black people seem to have more athletic ability...except in baseyboll.

Oh and in MMA.

I always found that pretty funny since most white supremacists aren't that bright and not all black people have an athletic ability.

You weren't quite bright enough to figure out that I didn't mention white supremacists in my comment...that was just the title of the thread...copied and pasted? My comment was...

"No, not at all. Just stating the obvious...white people = much more intelligence that black people. Black people SEEM to have more athletic ability...except in baseyboll.

Oh and in MMA."

 

[Darkwind]

All IQ means is how much of what you are told can you remember. .

What are you talking about? IQ tests are basically a series of logic puzzles. Memorization has nothing to do with the test. Also, it isn't a myth. Just because white supremacists use it to make black people look bad, doesn't mean it isn't true. Not all facts in life are pleasant. It isn't something people should be talking about all the time because youre just going to needlessly upset people, but you cant pretend like its a myth either.

What?

IQ is NOT a function of a persons race.....holy crap but that's stupid....You do realize that we are all the same species, right?

 

[Porker]

What?

IQ is NOT a function of a persons race.....holy crap but that's stupid....You do realize that we are all the same species, right?

So are all dogs of the same species...but have you ever compared the "dog IQ" of two of the SUB SPECIES... a chihuahua to a German Shepard, for instance?

 

[Correll]

What?

IQ is NOT a function of a persons race.....holy crap but that's stupid....You do realize that we are all the same species, right?

So are all dogs of the same species...but have you ever compared the "dog IQ" of two of the SUB SPECIES... a chihuahua to a German Shepard, for instance?

The gap is well documented, and has been for decades.

 

[squeeze berry]

the most accurate predictor of socio-economic success is academic achievement .

predictors of academic achievement are IQ ad SAT scores.

wonder why there are wealth and employment gaps?

look not beyond the achievement gaps that will never be closed in spite of decades of trying

 

[Porker]

Which agrees completely with my post #35 in this thread..

 

[squeeze berry]

He goes on to document the singular exception to the rule - East Asians. The entire article is well worth the read.

The point is this: as far as blacks and whites are concerned, at least one major environmental factor reigns supreme in IQ test scores - the socio-economic factor.

How do you explain that socio-economic wealth factor as applied to these brilliant black athletes using up 4/5 year athletic scholarships worth $150,000 to $175,000 at major universities across this once great nation coming out of college with all that education and STILL dumber than a box of goddamn moon rocks? Then making millions of dollars in the NBA/NFL and STILL SO GD STUPID all their able to do is discuss basketball or such on ESPN or some other national media outlet?

those types are relatively few as compared to large populations

 

[RosieS]

What IQ tests measure is language and spacial aptitudes.

That leaves out at least six other measures of intelligence, so standard IQ tests really don't measure IQ.

Those that wish to measure IQ do not want to spend the time or the money to actually measure IQ fully, so they depend on a seriously flawed measurement device.

It is, in real life terms, a meaningless score.

It is like giving driver licenses to those who can provide their signature.

Regards from Rosie

What about the fact that similar gaps are found in SAT scores?

If you think back to the SAT, it tested language and math. Essay writing is also now tested.

That is not much different than IQ tests, except that with IQ testing you get to play with red and white blocks.

Important areas such as musical ability, mechanical ability, interpersonal skills, kinesthetic sense, aesthetic sense and other talents and abilities go untouched.

Having a diverse skill set is a hallmark of our species but we only test a small subset of human intelligences. Most intelligences do not appear on paper and pencil exams.

Regards from Rosie

So, are there any tests that you think are good, and that show that there is NOT a gap? Link please.

No, there are not, and those that do the testing know that the tests are flawed and too limited.

Industries and post-secondary institutions have developed their own means for assessing skills and abilities. These types vary from hands-on demonstrations to portfolios to auditions.

Regards from Rosie

I call bullshit on that. the use of other forms of assessing people is driven by political correctness. intelligence testing does a much better job of predicting who will succeed at a job than testing any other factor. just ask the military. no one gets in with an IQ less than 90 because they cannot be trained.

Sure. For the menial military jobs.

For the Officer Corps you need a college degree or equivalent....which is not obtained by a mere flawed test.

Proving my point about the intelligences not being measured.

Regards from Rosie

 

[RosieS]

What?

IQ is NOT a function of a persons race.....holy crap but that's stupid....You do realize that we are all the same species, right?

So are all dogs of the same species...but have you ever compared the "dog IQ" of two of the SUB SPECIES... a chihuahua to a German Shepard, for instance?

There ARE no human subspecies.

(See what happens when school teach creationism?)

Regards from Rosie

 

[squeeze berry]

All IQ means is how much of what you are told can you remember. .

What are you talking about? IQ tests are basically a series of logic puzzles. Memorization has nothing to do with the test. Also, it isn't a myth. Just because white supremacists use it to make black people look bad, doesn't mean it isn't true. Not all facts in life are pleasant. It isn't something people should be talking about all the time because youre just going to needlessly upset people, but you cant pretend like its a myth either.

What?

IQ is NOT a function of a persons race.....holy crap but that's stupid....You do realize that we are all the same species, right?

but 80% of your intelligence is inherited

 

[Porker]

What?

IQ is NOT a function of a persons race.....holy crap but that's stupid....You do realize that we are all the same species, right?

So are all dogs of the same species...but have you ever compared the "dog IQ" of two of the SUB SPECIES... a chihuahua to a German Shepard, for instance?

There ARE no human subspecies.

(See what happens when school teach creationism?)

Regards from Rosie

Wanna bet...?

I was NEVER taught that in a public school. Just at home and at church before my annual Easter egg hunt.