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Various Native American Nations have received reparations.
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Freed Black slaves in the years following the Civil War through the early 1900s received nearly 20 million acres of farmland through numerous lending programs designed to help them succeed. That was the true "reparations" for the Black people who were or directly related to slaves. I proved that to you years ago, but I guess you forgot.
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Whites have received what you guys consider numerous reparations.
In 1618, the Virginia colony passed “the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws.” Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.”The headright system was used in all the original thirteen colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance
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The Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. Research shows that 99.73 percent of that land went to whites, including white immigrants. 1.5 million white families were given free land, the equivalent of a minimum of $500,000 per family. Today, 93 million whites still benefit from the Homestead Act, this is about forty percent of the current white population in America.
United States Congress passed the Morrill Act of 1862, better known as the Land Grant Act. The grants were used to build colleges making land grant colleges one result of the Morrill Act. Blacks were not allowed to attend many Morrill Act institutions until U.S Congress came up with the Agricultural College Act of 1890 easier remembered as the Morrill Act of 1890. The second Morrill Act created some of America’s legendary HBCU’S, but until desegregation became the law, black land grant colleges were not equally funded. These land grants established white economic advancement, and they built an economic floor for the European immigrants that entered America.
The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934. This law created the Federal Housing Administration or the FHA. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America. The FHA created a guaranteed home loan program whereby potential homebuyers could get bank loans guaranteed against default by the government. The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.”
The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment. The assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually, the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for white single moms with children and no daddy at home. Blacks were excluded at that time.
The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.
On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. Over one million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits. More than fifty billion dollars (based on its value in 1930) was spent on The New Deal and Servicemen’s Readjustment Act. That amount is the equivalent to just over 1 trillion dollars today. Both programs are credited with providing a significant boost to wealth accumulation in America. All of this and more are the reparations whites have received. Therefore all this whining from the right is nothing more than disingenuous junk.
Shawn D Rochester, The Black Tax: The Cost of Being Black in America, pp, 49, Good Steward Publishing, Southbury CT., 2018
Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History
Morrill Act, 1862, Morrill Act, 1862 · The State of History
The Morrill Land Grant Act Of 1890, http://www.blackbottomarchives.com/blackhistory/2015/2/18/ morrill-act-of-1890#:~:text= THE%20MORRILL%20LAND% 20GRANT%20ACT%20OF%201890%20The,the%20existing% 20land%20grant%20colleges%20in%20the%20state.
James Chen, National Housing Act, Updated Sep 3, 2019, National Housing Act: Overview, Impact, Criticisms
Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood
PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS
Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010
Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...second-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origin
Johnathan Grossman, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage, U.S. Department of Labor, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage
Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill’s Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019
Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, https://progressive.org/dispatches/how-african-american-wwiiveterans-were-scorned-by-the-g-i-b/
Jim Powell, The ‘Old’ New Deal Still Isn’t Paid For, https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/11/n...ributors_0211_jim_powell.html?sh=6def214745b3
Stop with that bullshit. You make yourself sound like an asshole.
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MaryL
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None of the aforementioned IM2 issues mentions ( “the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws”, The Homestead Acts etc.) where race based reparations. THEY WERE NOT REPARATIONS. They where INCENTIVES and anyway, IM2 offers no proof they were exclusive to whites.The only precedent for reparations is the civil liberty act of 1988, apology and financial redress to LIVING victims/survivors of the unconstitutional internment of Americans of Japanese descent in the 1940's. The key word: LIVING victims or survivors. IM2 and certain other people can't seem to understand THAT is why reparations for an event that happened 158 years ago are just absurd. To say the least.
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Mary, these were race based things given to whites.
The opposition to black reparations is based on sheer racist hatred. Precedents have been set as other groups who have been harmed by the government have received reparations. As for the tired worn out excuse of “why should I pay for something I did not do,” here is an example of reparations made in modern times for things done by past generations.
I am quite sure no one living in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government made the Fort Laramie treaty with the Sioux Nation or were participants in Custers violation of that treaty. Nor were they alive when President Grant decided it was OK to let settlers and people prospecting for gold tresspass into land promised to the Sioux thereby violating the treaty. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to take the land from the Sioux by military force. No one in 1980 was alive when the U.S. government decided to cut off supplies they promised the Sioux as condition for their surrender after whipping the U.S. Army at The Battle of Little Bighorn. But in 1980, the government of the United States decided reparations were due to the Sioux Nation for what was done to them in the 1800’s. They awarded the Sioux nation 105 million dollars..
Mary, stop trying to argue..
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problem is how you take facts and use them in faulty narratives.Whites have received what you guys consider numerous reparations.
In 1618, the Virginia colony passed “the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws.” Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.”The headright system was used in all the original thirteen colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance
headright system - Bing
Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.
The Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. Research shows that 99.73 percent of that land went to whites, including white immigrants. 1.5 million white families were given free land, the equivalent of a minimum of $500,000 per family. Today, 93 million whites still benefit from the Homestead Act, this is about forty percent of the current white population in America.
United States Congress passed the Morrill Act of 1862, better known as the Land Grant Act. The grants were used to build colleges making land grant colleges one result of the Morrill Act. Blacks were not allowed to attend many Morrill Act institutions until U.S Congress came up with the Agricultural College Act of 1890 easier remembered as the Morrill Act of 1890. The second Morrill Act created some of America’s legendary HBCU’S, but until desegregation became the law, black land grant colleges were not equally funded. These land grants established white economic advancement, and they built an economic floor for the European immigrants that entered America.
The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934. This law created the Federal Housing Administration or the FHA. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America. The FHA created a guaranteed home loan program whereby potential homebuyers could get bank loans guaranteed against default by the government. The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.”
The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment. The assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually, the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for white single moms with children and no daddy at home. Blacks were excluded at that time.
The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.
On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. Over one million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits. More than fifty billion dollars (based on its value in 1930) was spent on The New Deal and Servicemen’s Readjustment Act. That amount is the equivalent to just over 1 trillion dollars today. Both programs are credited with providing a significant boost to wealth accumulation in America. All of this and more are the reparations whites have received. Therefore all this whining from the right is nothing more than disingenuous junk.
Shawn D Rochester, The Black Tax: The Cost of Being Black in America, pp, 49, Good Steward Publishing, Southbury CT., 2018
Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History
Morrill Act, 1862, Morrill Act, 1862 · The State of History
The Morrill Land Grant Act Of 1890, http://www.blackbottomarchives.com/blackhistory/2015/2/18/ morrill-act-of-1890#:~:text= THE%20MORRILL%20LAND% 20GRANT%20ACT%20OF%201890%20The,the%20existing% 20land%20grant%20colleges%20in%20the%20state.
James Chen, National Housing Act, Updated Sep 3, 2019, National Housing Act: Overview, Impact, Criticisms
Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood
PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS
Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010
Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...second-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origin
Johnathan Grossman, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage, U.S. Department of Labor, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage
Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill’s Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019
Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, https://progressive.org/dispatches/how-african-american-wwiiveterans-were-scorned-by-the-g-i-b/
Jim Powell, The ‘Old’ New Deal Still Isn’t Paid For, https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/11/n...ributors_0211_jim_powell.html?sh=6def214745b3
said, because you could make some serious points if you put aside an agenda. A bias? we all have biases, but arguing with an agenda based mindset is a losing game.
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Ugh!
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I'm white and I want Reparations! I want $20 million and a free house.
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There is no faulty narrative here. Whites have been given all kinds of financial help from the government. Blacks were denied these things. That's my point.
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This isn’t 1618, this isn’t 1944. Whites today are given nothing that you aren’t given, except respect, since you certainly are so disrespectful.Whites have received what you guys consider numerous reparations.
In 1618, the Virginia colony passed “the Great Charter of privileges, orders, and laws.” Among these laws was a provision that any person who settled in Virginia or paid for the transportation of another person to settle in Virginia would get fifty acres of land per person. “The right to receive fifty acres per person, or per head, was called a headright.”The headright system was used in all the original thirteen colonies. Headrights were the first of many government handouts of free stuff or guarantees providing whites with economic development assistance
headright system - Bing
Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.
The Homestead Acts gave away 246 million acres of land. Research shows that 99.73 percent of that land went to whites, including white immigrants. 1.5 million white families were given free land, the equivalent of a minimum of $500,000 per family. Today, 93 million whites still benefit from the Homestead Act, this is about forty percent of the current white population in America.
United States Congress passed the Morrill Act of 1862, better known as the Land Grant Act. The grants were used to build colleges making land grant colleges one result of the Morrill Act. Blacks were not allowed to attend many Morrill Act institutions until U.S Congress came up with the Agricultural College Act of 1890 easier remembered as the Morrill Act of 1890. The second Morrill Act created some of America’s legendary HBCU’S, but until desegregation became the law, black land grant colleges were not equally funded. These land grants established white economic advancement, and they built an economic floor for the European immigrants that entered America.
The National Housing Act was passed by Congress and signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1934. This law created the Federal Housing Administration or the FHA. The National Housing Act is the policy that may have had the most impact on wealth accumulation in modern America. The FHA created a guaranteed home loan program whereby potential homebuyers could get bank loans guaranteed against default by the government. The formation of the FHA and its guaranteed loan program only worked to increase white advantage. “Of the $120 billion worth of new housing subsidized by the government between 1934 and 1962, less than 2 percent went to nonwhite families.”
The Social Security Act of 1935 created the Social Security program, state unemployment insurance, and assistance to single women with children. When President Roosevelt signed the law, approximately two-thirds of the blacks in America were ineligible. For years, most blacks were excluded from social security savings and could not get unemployment. The assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually, the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for white single moms with children and no daddy at home. Blacks were excluded at that time.
The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938 created the minimum wage and time and a half overtime pay for working over forty hours a week. In every law that was passed as part of The New Deal, Roosevelt had to compromise with southern representatives to get the votes he needed. In the case of the FLSA, due to pressure from southern congress members, industries would be excluded from the regulations where the majority of workers were black. Because of this, blacks were paid less than the minimum wage.
On June 22, 1944, President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill.38 This law provided benefits for veterans returning from World War Two. This act included funds for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. Over one million returning black soldiers were unable to get GI benefits. More than fifty billion dollars (based on its value in 1930) was spent on The New Deal and Servicemen’s Readjustment Act. That amount is the equivalent to just over 1 trillion dollars today. Both programs are credited with providing a significant boost to wealth accumulation in America. All of this and more are the reparations whites have received. Therefore all this whining from the right is nothing more than disingenuous junk.
Shawn D Rochester, The Black Tax: The Cost of Being Black in America, pp, 49, Good Steward Publishing, Southbury CT., 2018
Williams, T. (2000). The Homestead Act: A major asset-building policy in American history (CSD Working Paper No. 00-9). St. Louis, MO: Washington University, Center for Social Development. The Homestead Act: A Major Asset-Building Policy in American History
Morrill Act, 1862, Morrill Act, 1862 · The State of History
The Morrill Land Grant Act Of 1890, http://www.blackbottomarchives.com/blackhistory/2015/2/18/ morrill-act-of-1890#:~:text= THE%20MORRILL%20LAND% 20GRANT%20ACT%20OF%201890%20The,the%20existing% 20land%20grant%20colleges%20in%20the%20state.
James Chen, National Housing Act, Updated Sep 3, 2019, National Housing Act: Overview, Impact, Criticisms
Alexis C. Madrigal, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood, The Atlantic, May 22, 2014, The Racist Housing Policy That Made Your Neighborhood
PBS, Race-The Power of An Illusion, Uncle Sam Lends A Hand, Did the Government Racialize Housing and Wealth? RACE - The Power of an Illusion . Go Deeper | PBS
Larry DeWitt, The Decision to Exclude Agricultural and Domestic Workers from the 1935 Social Security Act, Social Security Bulletin, Vol. 70, No. 4, 2010
Brad Plumer, A second look at Social Security’s racist origins, Washington Post, June 3, 2013, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...second-look-at-social-securitys-racist-origin
Johnathan Grossman, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage, U.S. Department of Labor, Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938: Maximum Struggle for a Minimum Wage
Erin Blakemore, How the GI Bill’s Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, How the GI Bill's Promise Was Denied to a Million Black WWII Veterans, June 21, 2019
Brandon Weber, How African American WWII Veterans Were Scorned By the G.I. Bill, The Progressive, November 10, 2017, https://progressive.org/dispatches/how-african-american-wwiiveterans-were-scorned-by-the-g-i-b/
Jim Powell, The ‘Old’ New Deal Still Isn’t Paid For, https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/11/n...ributors_0211_jim_powell.html?sh=6def214745b3
I agree. They need to move out of the past and appreciate all the opportunities they’re given. It’s even swung to the other side, with politicians announcing ahead of time that they will not consider whites or men for prestigious jobs.
Next up is Feinstein’s replacement. Gruesome promised he would give the job to a black female to make up for the loss of a black senator when Kamala was appointed to VP, ironically because of her race. Why not instead replace Feinstein with another old Jewish lady? We lost a Jewish senator!
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Nice try.
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