White House: Texas must remain part of the US

[UseCaution]

Texas divided into several states is a "in the middle" along the correct course of action to take. I will sign anything to help...Divide and be conquered again "The Confederate States in action" I would keep all the current union paper in order.. Ya' All will need it!

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[regent]

EL PASO, Texas (AP) — Bad news for thousands of people who wanted to see Texas secede: The state is still in the U.S.

The White House has responded to a petition asking that Texas be allowed to break away from the country, saying the Founding Fathers who created the nation "did not provide a right to walk away from it."

More than 125,000 people signed the petition, which was created a few days after President Barack Obama won re-election. The White House has promised to respond to any petition that gets more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days.

LINK:White House: Texas must remain part of the US

The White House gets it wrong again! Color Me surprised.

The Founding Fathers actually did. However, Lincoln did away with that when he won the war.

They absolutely did not.

There is one way..and one way only that a state can secede according to the Constitution. Legislation would have to pass both houses of congress, be signed by the President and survive any challenges in the Supreme Court.

That's it.

Otherwise they are engaged in insurrection and face the consequences.

If America put Texas up for sale, and sold it to Texas, China, India, whoever, what could we get? It's a thought anyway.

 

[francoHFW]

125,000 are total brainwashed RW wackjobs- a joke.

Funny how these "superpatriots" turn out to be loudmouth frauds...lol

 

[Wiseacre]

el paso, texas (ap) — bad news for thousands of people who wanted to see texas secede: The state is still in the u.s.

The white house has responded to a petition asking that texas be allowed to break away from the country, saying the founding fathers who created the nation "did not provide a right to walk away from it."

more than 125,000 people signed the petition, which was created a few days after president barack obama won re-election. The white house has promised to respond to any petition that gets more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days.

link:white house: Texas must remain part of the us

****!

 

[Oldguy]

The White House gets it wrong again! Color Me surprised.

The Founding Fathers actually did. However, Lincoln did away with that when he won the war.

They absolutely did not.

There is one way..and one way only that a state can secede according to the Constitution. Legislation would have to pass both houses of congress, be signed by the President and survive any challenges in the Supreme Court.

That's it.

Otherwise they are engaged in insurrection and face the consequences.

If America put Texas up for sale, and sold it to Texas, China, India, whoever, what could we get? It's a thought anyway.

Sorry, but Rick Perry has already sold most of the state's government to Spain, China and whatever other foreign country he could outsource the government to.

 

[ZimothyTahn]

They absolutely did not.

There is one way..and one way only that a state can secede according to the Constitution. Legislation would have to pass both houses of congress, be signed by the President and survive any challenges in the Supreme Court.

That's it.

Otherwise they are engaged in insurrection and face the consequences.

If America put Texas up for sale, and sold it to Texas, China, India, whoever, what could we get? It's a thought anyway.

Sorry, but Rick Perry has already sold most of the state's government to Spain, China and whatever other foreign country he could outsource the government to.

hahahahahahahaha.

**** republicans are a bunch of hypocritical doucherockets, aren't they?

 

[Oldguy]

If America put Texas up for sale, and sold it to Texas, China, India, whoever, what could we get? It's a thought anyway.

Sorry, but Rick Perry has already sold most of the state's government to Spain, China and whatever other foreign country he could outsource the government to.

hahahahahahahaha.

**** republicans are a bunch of hypocritical doucherockets, aren't they?

Yup. And worse...they're not even ashamed of themselves when they get caught.

 

[Politico]

my question is if the blue states left, who would pay for all their shit?

Fixed it for ya.

If the US did release Texas, wonder if Mexico would attempt to retake it?

They can't even retake their own states.

 

[OKTexas]

EL PASO, Texas (AP) — Bad news for thousands of people who wanted to see Texas secede: The state is still in the U.S.

The White House has responded to a petition asking that Texas be allowed to break away from the country, saying the Founding Fathers who created the nation "did not provide a right to walk away from it."

More than 125,000 people signed the petition, which was created a few days after President Barack Obama won re-election. The White House has promised to respond to any petition that gets more than 25,000 signatures within 30 days.

LINK:White House: Texas must remain part of the US

The White House gets it wrong again! Color Me surprised.

The Founding Fathers actually did. However, Lincoln did away with that when he won the war.

They absolutely did not.

There is one way..and one way only that a state can secede according to the Constitution. Legislation would have to pass both houses of congress, be signed by the President and survive any challenges in the Supreme Court.

That's it.

Otherwise they are engaged in insurrection and face the consequences.

Link, where is that written. Considering the Constitution is a charter of negatives, where is the power to prohibit succession written. It's not in the Constitution and the 10th Amendment specifically states if power isn't granted the power doesn't exist. I think if a sufficient number of a states residence voted for succession a state could successfully sue in the Supreme Court.

 

[OKTexas]

If any of the southern states who say they want to secede actually did, much of their population would rush to move north.

Reason is simple - the north does the work and the south gets the financial benefits. It would be advantageous to the north to get rid of the ignorant and uneducated freeloaders who vote against their own best self interest.

Where's you link? I'd like to know where you come up with this propaganda.

 

[JFK_USA]

So wait Crazy republicans are now mad at Lincoln for making sure states can't secede? I have seen it all.

 

[OKTexas]

So wait Crazy republicans are now mad at Lincoln for making sure states can't secede? I have seen it all.

Sure, Lincoln and Serias Assad would be great friends, both had their generals target civilian populations and non-military targets. I guess great minds think alike.

 

[JFK_USA]

So wait Crazy republicans are now mad at Lincoln for making sure states can't secede? I have seen it all.

Sure, Lincoln and Serias Assad would be great friends, both had their generals target civilian populations and non-military targets. I guess great minds think alike.

Wow crazy person right here.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

If any of the southern states who say they want to secede actually did, much of their population would rush to move north.

Reason is simple - the north does the work and the south gets the financial benefits. It would be advantageous to the north to get rid of the ignorant and uneducated freeloaders who vote against their own best self interest.

Where's you link? I'd like to know where you come up with this propaganda.

Hey Dummy.. Where in the US Constitution are you guaranteed health care? More cluless nitwit Zombies munching on the government teet and Barrys puckered butthole.- For LugNutty

 

[OKTexas]

So wait Crazy republicans are now mad at Lincoln for making sure states can't secede? I have seen it all.

Sure, Lincoln and Serias Assad would be great friends, both had their generals target civilian populations and non-military targets. I guess great minds think alike.

Wow crazy person right here.

Don't call me carzy unless you can prove me wrong.

 

[paperview]

You people of the South don't know what you are doing.

This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about.

War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it… Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them?

You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.

You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane.
If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

You people of the South don't know what you are doing.

This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about.

War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it… Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them?

You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.

You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane.
If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.

^^^Nutty as hell, insane ramblings. Wow, you're scary.

 

[Dubya]

Despite the continuing myth that the Texas Annexation documentation contains a clause allowing the state to secede whenever it wants, it is exactly that, a myth. However:

A few years ago, while conducting research for a novel I was writing about Lone Star politics, I discovered a short clause in the state's 1845 annexation agreement that's well known to any serious state historian, though far less well known to the average Texan. Buried beneath some highly boring details about how the republic's resources were to be transferred to the federal government in Washington is language stipulating that "[n]ew States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution."

Put plainly, Texas agreed to join the union in 1845 on the condition that it be allowed to split itself into as many as five separate states whenever it wanted to, and contingent only on the approval of its own state legislature. For more than 150 years, this right to divide—unilaterally, which is to say without the approval of the U.S. Congress—has been packed away in the state's legislative attic, like a forgotten family heirloom that only gets dusted off every now and then by some politician who has mistaken it for a beautiful beacon of hope.

In 1930, a few years before he muscled his way into the White House as Franklin Roosevelt's first vice president, House Minority Leader John Nance Garner led a crusade to divide the one state he represented into five, along regional lines. Together with their progenitor, the new states of North Texas, South Texas, East Texas and West Texas would, in Garner's words, "transfer the balance of political power from New England to the South and secure for the Southern States ... prestige and recognition." At a time when Texas was solidly Democratic, the threat of eight new Democratic senators in Washington would also, in his view, have the added benefit of chipping away significantly at the Republican majority's power.

Now Texas is mostly Republican. Imagine eight new republican senators, some of whom would most likely be hard liners.........

Texas secession: How the Lone Star state could mess with the rest of us. - Slate Magazine

I have my doubts you could gerrymander Texas into 5 states meeting these conditions:

"[n]ew States, of convenient size, not exceeding four in number, in addition to said State of Texas, and having sufficient population, may hereafter, by the consent of said State, be formed out of the territory thereof, which shall be entitled to admission under the provisions of the federal constitution."

...and come up with five states with a Republican population.

I've examine many of the counties in Texas, because I was examining the 100 poorest counties in the United States. The 100 poorest counties in the United States fall into 4 distinct categories: large Native American populations because of Indian Reservations, large Hispanic populations, most Black counties throughout the South and counties in Appalachia.

Those red areas in Texas in that first piss poor map are counties with very large or mostly Hispanic populations. Texas could be divided to meet the conditions if it was done something like this:

...,but I think that "state" that which borders Mexico wouldn't be Republican, once the people had a chance to vote. The orange "state" would have a low population and may need it's borders moved closer to Dallas.

 

[paperview]

You people of the South don't know what you are doing.

This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about.

War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it… Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them?

You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.

You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane.
If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.

^^^Nutty as hell, insane ramblings. Wow, you're scary.

Those are the words of William Tecumseh Sherman in 1860, you dumb shit.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

You people of the South don't know what you are doing.

This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about.

War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it… Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them?

You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors.

You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane.
If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.

^^^Nutty as hell, insane ramblings. Wow, you're scary.

Those are the words of William Tecumseh Sherman in 1860, you dumb shit.

Yea and you didn't quote him..NOW WHO'S THE DUMB SHIT???????