White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay

[Zincwarrior]

OMB is raising the possibility of no back pay for furloughed workers during the Government shutdown. Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay​

ttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5542466-shutdown-white-house-memo-furloughed-workers/
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is raising the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to backpay from their time off during the government shutdown.

An administration confirmed to The Hill that the memo, which was first reported by Axios, hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019, which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown.

The OMB memo argues that the law does not automatically guarantee that all furloughed employees are guaranteed backpay. It cites a line in the amended version of the law, which states that furloughed workers will receive backpay “subject to the enactment of appropriations Acts ending the lapse.”

Attempts to withhold backpay for furloughed workers would face legal challenges from employees’ unions. It would also be at odds with guidance issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) last month ahead of the ongoing government shutdown.

The OPM guidance features answers to frequently asked questions, including whether furloughed employees will get paid.

 

[marvin martian]

OMB is raising the possibility of no back pay for furloughed workers during the Government shutdown. Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay​

ttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5542466-shutdown-white-house-memo-furloughed-workers/
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is raising the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to backpay from their time off during the government shutdown.

An administration confirmed to The Hill that the memo, which was first reported by Axios, hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019, which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown.

The OMB memo argues that the law does not automatically guarantee that all furloughed employees are guaranteed backpay. It cites a line in the amended version of the law, which states that furloughed workers will receive backpay “subject to the enactment of appropriations Acts ending the lapse.”

Attempts to withhold backpay for furloughed workers would face legal challenges from employees’ unions. It would also be at odds with guidance issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) last month ahead of the ongoing government shutdown.

The OPM guidance features answers to frequently asked questions, including whether furloughed employees will get paid.

Why should people get paid for not working?

 

[Moonglow]

Why should people get paid for not working?

Yeah, stop paying Trump and the Vice President.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why should people get paid for not working?

if they dont get paid then nor should the ones who did the furloughing.....

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Democrats should put American workers first for once and end the Schumer shutdown.

 

[leftwinger]

Why should people get paid for not working?

Why should courts say "they can't be fired" every single time the Trump regime tries to cut the size and cost of GOVT?

Of course they will say they must be poo aid if you can't fire them? I suppose? Its no longer a job, it's a highly paid welfare check.

 

[1srelluc]

They should be made to burn leave to keep their pay whole.

Burn your leave up as soon as you get it (which many do) then you are shit out of luck.

 

[Rogue AI]

The matter of back pay is left to Congress in accordance to the amendment in the cited law. No doubt the Executive's input will play a significant role.

 

[Muhammed]

OMB is raising the possibility of no back pay for furloughed workers during the Government shutdown. Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay​

ttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5542466-shutdown-white-house-memo-furloughed-workers/
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is raising the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to backpay from their time off during the government shutdown.

An administration confirmed to The Hill that the memo, which was first reported by Axios, hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019, which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown.

The OMB memo argues that the law does not automatically guarantee that all furloughed employees are guaranteed backpay. It cites a line in the amended version of the law, which states that furloughed workers will receive backpay “subject to the enactment of appropriations Acts ending the lapse.”

Attempts to withhold backpay for furloughed workers would face legal challenges from employees’ unions. It would also be at odds with guidance issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) last month ahead of the ongoing government shutdown.

The OPM guidance features answers to frequently asked questions, including whether furloughed employees will get paid.

I think he's bluffing.

But maybe not. Most of the furloughed workers likely vote Democrat. The big bloated authoritarian government party.

 

[Independent thinker]

OMB is raising the possibility of no back pay for furloughed workers during the Government shutdown. Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay​

ttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5542466-shutdown-white-house-memo-furloughed-workers/
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is raising the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to backpay from their time off during the government shutdown.

An administration confirmed to The Hill that the memo, which was first reported by Axios, hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019, which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown.

The OMB memo argues that the law does not automatically guarantee that all furloughed employees are guaranteed backpay. It cites a line in the amended version of the law, which states that furloughed workers will receive backpay “subject to the enactment of appropriations Acts ending the lapse.”

Attempts to withhold backpay for furloughed workers would face legal challenges from employees’ unions. It would also be at odds with guidance issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) last month ahead of the ongoing government shutdown.

The OPM guidance features answers to frequently asked questions, including whether furloughed employees will get paid.

I never understood the reason for government shutdowns if you are just going to pay nonworking employees back pay anyway. What’s the point?

 

[WorldWatcher]

When there is a shut down 100% of workers should be sent home. None of this essential workers bull shit.

No work, no back pay.

Shut down the airports, rails, and ports.

No Ss checks, no military retirement checks, no SNAP, no processing government financials, the list goes on.

If we had real shutdowns, there would be no shutdowns.

WW

 

[Missourian]

Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

How many workers get laid off through a fault of their own?

They don't get paid back pay for days they didn't work.

The government workers use the same mechanisms available to everyone else. They aren't special.

 

[Seymour Flops]

OMB is raising the possibility of no back pay for furloughed workers during the Government shutdown. Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

I cannot fully agree that it is through no fault of their own. Most federal workers vote Democrat, so they voted in the very people who are now openly admitting that they are causing this suffering in order to have "leverage."

That would be even more true of furloughed workers, i.e. non-essential workers. A person who does not understand how important it is to make oneself essential at their job is sure to be a Demoratic voter.

White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay​

ttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5542466-shutdown-white-house-memo-furloughed-workers/
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is raising the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to backpay from their time off during the government shutdown.

An administration confirmed to The Hill that the memo, which was first reported by Axios, hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019, which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown.

I would not call it an "aggressive interpretation," but rather a "taxpayer-friendly interpretation."

The OMB memo argues that the law does not automatically guarantee that all furloughed employees are guaranteed backpay. It cites a line in the amended version of the law, which states that furloughed workers will receive backpay “subject to the enactment of appropriations Acts ending the lapse.”

Attempts to withhold backpay for furloughed workers would face legal challenges from employees’ unions. It would also be at odds with guidance issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) last month ahead of the ongoing government shutdown.

The OPM guidance features answers to frequently asked questions, including whether furloughed employees will get paid.

Then it is not a hard and fast rule. It is discretionary by the appropriators.

If I had the decision, I would give the furloughed non-essential workers these options:

a) Get full "backpay," plus two weeks severance, then buh-bye.
b) No backpay, come back to work and then you have 90 days to make yourself essential (which would start by coming to work instead of "telecommuting.") If you cannot find any essential work of which you are capable, then take the severance package.

 

[ThisIsMe]

OMB is raising the possibility of no back pay for furloughed workers during the Government shutdown. Thoughts, considering they being furloughed because of a political fight and through no fault of their own?

White House memo argues furloughed workers not guaranteed backpay​

ttps://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5542466-shutdown-white-house-memo-furloughed-workers/
A draft memo from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) is raising the possibility that furloughed federal workers may not be entitled to backpay from their time off during the government shutdown.

An administration confirmed to The Hill that the memo, which was first reported by Axios, hinges on an aggressive interpretation of the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act of 2019, which President Trump signed during the last government shutdown.

The OMB memo argues that the law does not automatically guarantee that all furloughed employees are guaranteed backpay. It cites a line in the amended version of the law, which states that furloughed workers will receive backpay “subject to the enactment of appropriations Acts ending the lapse.”

Attempts to withhold backpay for furloughed workers would face legal challenges from employees’ unions. It would also be at odds with guidance issued by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) last month ahead of the ongoing government shutdown.

The OPM guidance features answers to frequently asked questions, including whether furloughed employees will get paid.

They should get back pay. Its not their fault that they are furloughed.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I think he's bluffing.

But maybe not. Most of the furloughed workers likely vote Democrat. The big bloated authoritarian government party.

My theory is that Trump is giving Johnson and Thune a bone to throw to Schumer and Jeffries. "Sign the clean CR and we will give your lazy-assed voters their "backpay."