White House 'DIALOGUE' Site Scrubbed of Eligibility Posts

[Sweet Willy]

Man those are some funny videos. I like the spooky, conspiracy sound effects in the first one.

Keep 'em coming man. You won't be able to convince anyone here that's it's daytime when you're done.

 

[007]

Man those are some funny videos. I like the spooky, conspiracy sound effects in the first one.

Keep 'em coming man. You won't be able to convince anyone here that's it's daytime when you're done.

Keep showing everyone you can't answer one simple question, even though you've been asked like a dozen times already....

Tell us... "why is obama hiding his real birth certificate?"

Can you answer that mister oh it doesn't matter **** the constitution, or are you going to just spew some more insults and eat another obama turd?

 

[pete]

How is it that the GoP, Democratic Party, Supreme Court, lower Courts, Clinton, McCain, other political rivals, the Hawaiian Governor, employees at the Hawaiian Dept. of Health can all keep this birth certificate conspiracy a secret so Obama can be elected to the highest office in the land when they can't even work together without leaks, smears and fighting...?

Any answers?

With the right amount of money/power all is possible.

 

[Sweet Willy]

Tell us... "why is obama hiding his real birth certificate?"

Yeah.....and when did you stop beating your wife?

 

[Againsheila]

So, you have no problem with a man who refuses to show his vault birth certificate being POTUS???? You really believe he went to Pakistan at the age of 20, when American's weren't allowed, on an AMERICAN passport????

You do know that he went AFTER the age of majority on an Indonesian passport and that Indonesia doesn't accept duel citizenship don't you?

I was born in England to two American citizens on an American military base and I had to become a naturalized citizen. When I did, I had to give up my English citizenship. It would be like me going to England and becoming Prime Minister.

The same thing happened to John McCain, and they held CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS on whether or not he was eligible to be President. No such congressional hearings have ever taken place on obama's eligibility...

Congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," but no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.

And there's more, now CBS is refusing to sell ad space... Cover-up: CBS bans eligibility billboards

good point

both, at the time, were senators

obama gets a pass, but mccain gets congressional hearings.....

neither one of them were eligible.

 

[007]

Tell us... "why is obama hiding his real birth certificate?"

Yeah.....and when did you stop beating your wife?

You sure are easy to embarrass... all I have to do is let you do it yourself...

 

[Pyrite]

Keep showing everyone you can't answer one simple question, even though you've been asked like a dozen times already....

Tell us... "why is obama hiding his real birth certificate?"

Can you answer that mister oh it doesn't matter **** the constitution, or are you going to just spew some more insults and eat another obama turd?

He told you, you jackass.

Obama will not release a copy of the long form birth certificate because to do so would prove nothing to you jackasses. You would immediately declare it a fake, and would create more stupid conspiracy theory videos to back you up.

That is why. But you won't accept that, so I won't hold out much hope for you.

As for the videos...
[youtube]bSlJGocONdc[/youtube]
SO CONVINCING!

 

[007]

Keep showing everyone you can't answer one simple question, even though you've been asked like a dozen times already....

Tell us... "why is obama hiding his real birth certificate?"

Can you answer that mister oh it doesn't matter **** the constitution, or are you going to just spew some more insults and eat another obama turd?

He told you, you jackass.

Obama will not release a copy of the long form birth certificate because to do so would prove nothing to you jackasses. You would immediately declare it a fake, and would create more stupid conspiracy theory videos to back you up.

That is why. But you won't accept that, so I won't hold out much hope for you.

As for the videos...
SO CONVINCING!

In order for you or anyone else to make that ignorant statement, obama would have to FIRST release his original birth certificate, THEN and ONLY THEN could either of you two morons know what I or anyone else wanting to see the original birth certificate will do.

Now try and give me a real answer, and not one that simply is licking obama's boots and drenched in partisan hack kool aide...

 

[007]

All topics open to discuss – except Obama eligibility



100% of posts scrubbed from White House transparency site ask about birth certificate

When it comes to evaluating and discussing transparency in government, one issue – and one issue alone – has been deemed out of bounds by a White House website: President Obama's continued concealment of his birth record.

As WND reported, the Obama administration's Office of Science & Technology launched the online forum to allow Americans to discuss ways of creating an "open government," which in turn resulted in a flood of people seeking disclosure of Obama's proof of eligibility to serve as president.

As part of the forum's rules and guidelines, posts that are obscene or reveal personal information, like Social Security numbers, are scrubbed completely, while those that are deemed off-topic are removed to a separate archive.

But a quick survey of flagged, removed and archived posts from yesterday reveals 100 percent of those yanked for being off-topic were, in fact, on the same topic.

The Open Government Initiative's online forum contains 21 entries deleted yesterday, all of them submitted to the thread on "Transparency Principles" and all of them discussing Obama's birth records, including a comment from WND's Chelsea Schilling.

One user, Jason Roberts, expressed his concerns on the forum about the White House hosting a "transparency" discussion without properly addressing the eligibility topic.

"The fact that the birth certificate issue hasn't been resolved, precludes any possible discussion of government transparency," Roberts wrote. "It is a farce to sit with hands folded and pretend to have some self-righteous discussion about government transparency when Mr. Obama is refusing to be transparent about his birth certificate, passport records, and school records. If his presidency started with his being sworn in, then the transparency must start with him willingly releasing his long-form birth certificate."

Roberts continued, "This issue will never go away. It will be there, stoked and kept fresh daily, for 8 years if necessary, until it is addressed. And the one to blame is Obama."

Comments not scrubbed from the site for being off-topic include the following:

* A man's detailing of his full-body rash and medical problems – prompting four additional comments on Lyme disease – on a thread devoted to the proper qualifications for presidential appointees to science posts

* A claim on the thread dedicated to scientific integrity within the OSTP that Americans are being "covertly assaulted" with secret energy weapons and then accused of being paranoid or mentally ill

* A pair of posts advocating more widespread use of marijuana in a discussion thread on government whistleblowers.

Despite the removal and archiving of posts related to Obama's birth certificate, however, the discussion continues to be dominated by questions of Obama's qualifications to serve as president.

All topics open to discuss – except Obama eligibility

How do I know any of that is true? I tested it myself. I joined the website and posted this comment on it. As you can see within minutes it had already gotten a +3 rating, clearly indicating there are others who agree. The majority of other posts had a negative number, no rating, or +1. You can also see that my post is "awaiting moderation." None of the other posts were. My post was subsequently removed.

... so as anyone can see, the obama team... the obama *TRANSPARENCY* team is in active HIDING mode when it comes to requests to see his original birth certificate, or at least hear a good reason WHY it's being kept hidden. Yeah, that's real "transparency" alright. Maybe in Cuba it is, or North Korea. Here in America it's a nothing but a load of bull shit, lies and hypocrisy.

 

[007]

Time's running out... obowma is going to have to come up with a long form copy or his original birth certificate sooner or later, and the pressure is mounting. I think a lot of people are in for a huge shock... this guy isn't eligible to be President...



Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?



Even state requires long-form document for some eligibility, identification issues

Posted: June 07, 2009
4:10 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


From the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands website

WASHINGTON – The Hawaiian certification of live birth Barack Obama posted on his campaign website and distributed to select news organizations as proof he was a "natural born citizen" would not be accepted as a "birth certificate" even for some Hawaiian state government eligibility issues, WND has learned.

The investigation follows a Honolulu Star Bulletin column Saturday, which quotes a state Department of Health spokeswoman as saying the state's current certification of live birth is recognized "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program.

As WND has reported, certifications of live birth were widely issued to Hawaiians born in foreign countries in 1961, the year Obama was born.

Are you motivated yet to join the billboard campaign and clear up the air of mystery surrounding Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve?

The Star Bulletin column goes on to report: "The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign website a fake."

However, Obama's "citizenship" was never the question raised during the campaign or after the election. The issue raised by WND has consistently been that Obama failed to prove he was actually born in Hawaii and thus constitutionally qualified to become president as a "natural born citizen" – which requires that the birth took place in the United States.

The qualifications for the Hawaiian Home Lands program require a certified copy of a standard birth certificate – also known as the "long-form certificate" filled out in the hospital and including details such as the name of the hospital and the attending physician.

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green," the qualifications state. "This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

According to Hawaii's Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, the state only issues "certifications" of live births since 2001 when the health department went paperless. It is only available in electronic form, she said.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she is quoted as telling the Star Bulletin. "The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

She did not explain how those needing a standard long-form birth certificate to qualify for programs such as those offered by the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands or to establish proof of eligibility to be president could be fulfilled. She said the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements." She did not, however, cite any specific rulings, and the Supreme Court has not taken up the issue of whether the certification of live birth would qualify a presidential candidate as eligible under the "natural born citizen" clause.

Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?

 

[Zoom-boing]

Once again, the simplest thing to do would be for Barry to release the long form. Not releasing it just makes him look suspicious. Duh. And while he's at it, release his college records. Has any other president not release theirs? Odd, very odd.

 

[Coyote]

Once again, the simplest thing to do would be for Barry to release the long form. Not releasing it just makes him look suspicious. Duh. And while he's at it, release his college records. Has any other president not release theirs? Odd, very odd.

Huh? Why on earth should he release his college records? Did Reagan? Did G.H. Bush? Did Clinton?

It has no relation to his job qualifications. Isn't anything private?

 

[Coyote]

Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?

Actually, that's not true. It is acceptable in Hawaii. The only time they require the long form is for proving he is of native Hawaiin ancestry to qualify for the homeland program. I guess that would be because you would need to prove your parents are also native Hawaiian and that would be on the long form.

Since Obama is not and has never claimed to be a native Hawaiian - it's a totally irrelevant claim.

 

[Zoom-boing]

Once again, the simplest thing to do would be for Barry to release the long form. Not releasing it just makes him look suspicious. Duh. And while he's at it, release his college records. Has any other president not release theirs? Odd, very odd.

Huh? Why on earth should he release his college records? Did Reagan? Did G.H. Bush? Did Clinton?

It has no relation to his job qualifications. Isn't anything private?

Didn't say it had any relation to his job qualifications. Just very curious that W's records were released and McCain's college days are out there for all to see. Why not Obama's? He's refused to release them. Why? Like with the long form birth certificate, why not just release them? Is he entitled to privacy? Being POTUS, one's past is an open book.

 

[pete]

, one's past is an open book.

Except for when its transparent ...

College records I seem to recall the question is on EVERY job app and if you were hunting for a job and they asked would you give up yours?

 

[Againsheila]

Time's running out... obowma is going to have to come up with a long form copy or his original birth certificate sooner or later, and the pressure is mounting. I think a lot of people are in for a huge shock... this guy isn't eligible to be President...



Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?



Even state requires long-form document for some eligibility, identification issues

Posted: June 07, 2009
4:10 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


From the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands website

WASHINGTON – The Hawaiian certification of live birth Barack Obama posted on his campaign website and distributed to select news organizations as proof he was a "natural born citizen" would not be accepted as a "birth certificate" even for some Hawaiian state government eligibility issues, WND has learned.

The investigation follows a Honolulu Star Bulletin column Saturday, which quotes a state Department of Health spokeswoman as saying the state's current certification of live birth is recognized "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program.

As WND has reported, certifications of live birth were widely issued to Hawaiians born in foreign countries in 1961, the year Obama was born.

Are you motivated yet to join the billboard campaign and clear up the air of mystery surrounding Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve?

The Star Bulletin column goes on to report: "The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign website a fake."

However, Obama's "citizenship" was never the question raised during the campaign or after the election. The issue raised by WND has consistently been that Obama failed to prove he was actually born in Hawaii and thus constitutionally qualified to become president as a "natural born citizen" – which requires that the birth took place in the United States.

The qualifications for the Hawaiian Home Lands program require a certified copy of a standard birth certificate – also known as the "long-form certificate" filled out in the hospital and including details such as the name of the hospital and the attending physician.

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green," the qualifications state. "This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

According to Hawaii's Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, the state only issues "certifications" of live births since 2001 when the health department went paperless. It is only available in electronic form, she said.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she is quoted as telling the Star Bulletin. "The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

She did not explain how those needing a standard long-form birth certificate to qualify for programs such as those offered by the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands or to establish proof of eligibility to be president could be fulfilled. She said the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements." She did not, however, cite any specific rulings, and the Supreme Court has not taken up the issue of whether the certification of live birth would qualify a presidential candidate as eligible under the "natural born citizen" clause.

Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?

This has gone to the Supreme court a minimum of 3 times, and they've refused to hear the case every time. Let's face it, our government is corrupt. The truth won't come out until long after Obama has finished serving his term.

Meanwhile a president will already be set (no pun intended), Hugo Chavez, will be running for president, forget invading, they just have to get elected and they own us.

 

[Sinatra]

Time's running out... obowma is going to have to come up with a long form copy or his original birth certificate sooner or later, and the pressure is mounting. I think a lot of people are in for a huge shock... this guy isn't eligible to be President...



Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?



Even state requires long-form document for some eligibility, identification issues

Posted: June 07, 2009
4:10 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


From the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands website

WASHINGTON – The Hawaiian certification of live birth Barack Obama posted on his campaign website and distributed to select news organizations as proof he was a "natural born citizen" would not be accepted as a "birth certificate" even for some Hawaiian state government eligibility issues, WND has learned.

The investigation follows a Honolulu Star Bulletin column Saturday, which quotes a state Department of Health spokeswoman as saying the state's current certification of live birth is recognized "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements."

The website of the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands, however, states clearly the certification of live birth touted by the Obama campaign, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs and a host of other Obama defenders is not acceptable as a form of identification to qualify under this program.

As WND has reported, certifications of live birth were widely issued to Hawaiians born in foreign countries in 1961, the year Obama was born.

Are you motivated yet to join the billboard campaign and clear up the air of mystery surrounding Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility to serve?

The Star Bulletin column goes on to report: "The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year's presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama's American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign website a fake."

However, Obama's "citizenship" was never the question raised during the campaign or after the election. The issue raised by WND has consistently been that Obama failed to prove he was actually born in Hawaii and thus constitutionally qualified to become president as a "natural born citizen" – which requires that the birth took place in the United States.

The qualifications for the Hawaiian Home Lands program require a certified copy of a standard birth certificate – also known as the "long-form certificate" filled out in the hospital and including details such as the name of the hospital and the attending physician.

"In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green," the qualifications state. "This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL."

According to Hawaii's Department of Health spokeswoman Janice Okubo, the state only issues "certifications" of live births since 2001 when the health department went paperless. It is only available in electronic form, she said.

"At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting," she is quoted as telling the Star Bulletin. "The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

She did not explain how those needing a standard long-form birth certificate to qualify for programs such as those offered by the Department of Hawaiian Home Lands or to establish proof of eligibility to be president could be fulfilled. She said the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state's current certification of live birth "as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements." She did not, however, cite any specific rulings, and the Supreme Court has not taken up the issue of whether the certification of live birth would qualify a presidential candidate as eligible under the "natural born citizen" clause.

Obama's 'birth certificate' not acceptable in Hawaii?

This has gone to the Supreme court a minimum of 3 times, and they've refused to hear the case every time. Let's face it, our government is corrupt. The truth won't come out until long after Obama has finished serving his term.

Meanwhile a president will already be set (no pun intended), Hugo Chavez, will be running for president, forget invading, they just have to get elected and they own us.

Every time I believe this issue is put to rest, another potential question arises.

Again, I keep wondering why Obama has not simply offered up the long form certificate?

What gives?

 

[txlonghorn]

or maybe the freaks should stop raising conspiracy theories.

they are not raising conspiracy theories dear....and dear, they are not freaks

they are asking him to be transparent and provide a copy of the original....he serves the citizens, and apparently numerous citizens request that he be transparent and instead of being transparent and taking 10 minutes and $10 to request a copy of the original, the whitehouse spent hours and doubtless more than $10 in removing requests from the people obama is supposed to serve.

and the 9/11 troofer crowd is asking for the "official" video of the plane crashing into the Pentagon. I guess since it took years for the govt to produce it, it means the American govt must have shot a missile into the Pentagon.

speaking of freaks and conspiracy theories....

 

[txlonghorn]

Once again, the simplest thing to do would be for Barry to release the long form. Not releasing it just makes him look suspicious. Duh. And while he's at it, release his college records. Has any other president not release theirs? Odd, very odd.

Huh? Why on earth should he release his college records? Did Reagan? Did G.H. Bush? Did Clinton?

It has no relation to his job qualifications. Isn't anything private?

Are you serious??? It has no relation??? So...by that logic, I can go to some big company and ask for a very important job and just tell them I went to Harvard and graduated in the top of my class...no wait...make that the VERY TOP of my class. I was the muddafuggin Valedictorian!!! And I spent about 10 years doing really important stuff and know alot about all the stuff they do here at...uh...what's the name of this company again???? Ah...never mind...It really doesn't matter because I already know how to run this place. It doesn't matter what my experience is. Trust me! I'm gonna make some BIG BIG CHANGES that lots of people will like. You'll see...

See how stupid that sounds? But you want to know if it's that big of a deal? And yes... they ALL have produced these records. It's a requirement. Or at least it used to be. But CHANGE has come to Washington and it's all about be VERY VERY DIFFERENT.

Thanks Obama...I knew you could do it.

 

[Coyote]

Are you serious??? It has no relation???

Show me where in the "job description" a potential candidate needs to release college transcripts. In fact - show me where it states he even needs to attend college to be eligable.

So...by that logic, I can go to some big company and ask for a very important job and just tell them I went to Harvard and graduated in the top of my class...no wait...make that the VERY TOP of my class. I was the muddafuggin Valedictorian!!!

This isn't a private company.

And I spent about 10 years doing really important stuff and know alot about all the stuff they do here at...uh...what's the name of this company again???? Ah...never mind...It really doesn't matter because I already know how to run this place. It doesn't matter what my experience is. Trust me! I'm gonna make some BIG BIG CHANGES that lots of people will like. You'll see...

How does that relate to qualifications for the job? This job is unique - qualifications are determined by the electorate and the Constitution. It's as simple as that. Suddenly you seem to think it should change?

See how stupid that sounds?

But you want to know if it's that big of a deal? And yes... they ALL have produced these records. It's a requirement. Or at least it used to be. But CHANGE has come to Washington and it's all about be VERY VERY DIFFERENT.Thanks Obama...I knew you could do it.

Do you have a source to back up that claim? I can't find anything stating that.