Which Vaccine?

[dblack]

In the past I have researched Obama, and some have said that he was born in Kenya. One must remember that Obama's mom was a CIA agent and he was quite the Manchurian candidate. Joan Rivers seemed to think Michelle Obama was a man. Kind of fishy not long after her saying that, she unexpectedly died.

So you think the vaccines are dangerous, you think Obama is a Manchurian candidate, you’re a birther, and you think Michelle Obama is a man.

I bet you also think Sandy Hook was fake, don’t you?

It's all true. I read about it at http://trumpsters-will-believe-anything.com. Do your own research.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

Emergency use. They haven't been approved by the FDA.

All three that are authorized for use in the US, under Emergency Use Authorization, by FDA. The Maderna Covide-19 vaccine, I was injected with 2 week ago granted authorization on Dec. 18, 2020. So far, so good. I get my 2nd shot on April 10th. I am not waiting for another round of Covid. Been there, done that, got the Antibodies T-Shirt. Had worse, but was no picnic. First shot had little or no reaction or adverse effect for me, but that's me.

I agree with this. I have no problem with people making their own choices. I wish you nothing but the best.

 

[Dragonlady]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

The question is can you trust them with their side effects.

I just got mine. I can feel my DNA being altered!!!

At 71, I'm not passing my DNA on to any more offspring, so if I grow a third eye, I'll buy a new pair of glasses.

 

[White 6]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

We're not getting choices. We take what's being offered, which in my case is Pfizer.

Pretty much same here, in Jackson, TN. Seems to depend on when and where you get it. Son and daughter got Pfizer, one got it in town where he lives, daughter got it here, involved in healthcare. Wasn't available at that time to people our age in general population in our county as we were suddenly young again. Checked state website, did the qualification survey. Suddenly I was an old Fk again and it offered it at my local country health department, even though county health dept. website still said I had to be 70 on info they were putting out to the public. We both got the Maderna on the day of the appointment as that was what they were pumping.

 

[22lcidw]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

We're not getting choices. We take what's being offered, which in my case is Pfizer.

Of course you're not getting choices. You live in a socialist dump.

I live in the #1 best country in the world to live in. The USA didn't even make the top 10. Get back to me when you do.

If I had my choice of vaccines, I'd choose Pfizer so I don't see the lack of choice as being a problem. I'm being forced to do what I want to do anyway, how is that a problem?

The United States protects you. And it cost money. We are a much more diverse nation and problems that goes with it. You are experiencing problems now in areas where you have become more diverse.

 

[Dragonlady]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

We're not getting choices. We take what's being offered, which in my case is Pfizer.

Pretty much same here, in Jackson, TN. Seems to depend on when and where you get it. Son and daughter got Pfizer, one got it in town where he lives, daughter got it here, involved in healthcare. Wasn't available at that time to people our age in general population in our county as we were suddenly young again. Checked state website, did the qualification survey. Suddenly I was an old Fk again and it offered it at my local country health department, even though county health dept. website still said I had to be 70 on info they were putting out to the public. We both got the Maderna on the day of the appointment as that was what they were pumping.

I figured we'd be getting Moderna out here too. Early information was that you had to be close to a research hospital to have the freezers to store Pfizer, but Moderna could be stored in any freezer. We're more than 30 miles from the nearest research hospital. That hospital is part of the Niagara Regional Health Unit, and we are not, which means we would never be getting our vaccines through them.

When my friend got her first shot she said it was Pfizer, and that's what everyone I've talked to around town has received. The local clinic is only giving out Pfizer. Yippee! Canada is apparently getting massive amounts of Pfizer and early delivery too. As my friend says, by summer, we'll all be swimming in vaccine.

 

[Kilroy2]

I got the Johnson and Johnson version a few weeks ago. Sore arm for a short time but otherwise no need to go back for a 2nd shot.

To answer the question of the OP the vaccination does not stop the virus from being transmitted or stop one from being infected. It just builds up ones immunity when confronted with the virus. Ideally it will prevent a severe disease from developing in that person.


Because some people have the virus but are asthmatic. Yet they can still spread the virus to those who are not asthmatic.

 

[Care4all]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

Yesterdays news...vaccines protect you and they prevent spread!

Dr. Rai: Data shows vaccine prevents spread of COVID-19

"You get vaccinated not only for yourself, but you get vaccinated for everybody you love,” says Dr. Ashok Rai.

www.wbay.com

GREEN BAY, Wis. (WBAY) - There’s another reason to get vaccinated against COVID-19: data shows it prevents the spread of the virus.

“I think the original motivation that people would say is ‘I want to protect myself.’ Which is right, we want everybody to be healthy. Some people would say, ‘I don’t need the vaccine because I’m going to do fine with COVID.’ Probably not the right attitude, but now even more, you get vaccinated not only for yourself, but you get vaccinated for everybody you love,” says Dr. Ashok Rai, President and CEO of Prevea Health.

New CDC Study: It’s Rare For Vaccinated People To Spread COVID-19

A real-world Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) study found the risk of COVID-19 infection fell 90% by the second week after the second shot.

www.romper.com

New CDC Study: It’s Rare For Vaccinated People To Spread COVID-19
A real-world study of vaccinated individuals saw the risk of infection drop significantly two weeks after they received their second dose.
by MORGAN BRINLEE
March 30, 2021
A real-world study from the U.S. Centers for Disease and Prevention (CDC) has shown the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are highly effective in reducing the risk of infection from COVID-19. In studying both vaccines’ effectiveness in a real-world setting, the CDC found the risk of infection among vaccinated healthcare personnel and first responders fell 90% two weeks after individuals received their second dose of the vaccine.

Moderna Has Started Testing Its COVID-19 Vaccine On Kids & Babies

Pfizer Says Its COVID Vaccine Is Very Effective In Kids Between 12 To 15

New Study Says These COVID-19 Vaccines Work On Pregnant Women & Breastf


“This study shows that our national vaccination efforts are working,” CDC Director Rochelle P. Walensky said in a statement. “These findings should offer hope to the millions of Americans receiving COVID-19 vaccines each day and to those who will have the opportunity to roll up their sleeves and get vaccinated in the weeks ahead.”
The CDC’s study examined vaccine effectiveness over the course of 13 weeks in 3,950 participants spread across six states. None of the study’s participants had ever had COVID-19 prior to the study and all were deemed to have a high-risk of exposure to the virus due to their roles as healthcare personnel and first responders. More than 62% of participants received both doses of a COVID-19 vaccine during the study while just over 12% of participants received just one dose. Researchers regularly collected nasal swabs and questioned participants about potential symptoms of illness to monitor for infection, including asymptomatic illness.

Researchers found that, as earlier clinical trial data has shown, both the Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines were significantly effective at preventing infection. Just one dose of a vaccine was shown to prevent 80% of infections two weeks after it was administered. The second dose prevented 90% of infections by its two week mark.

“It takes about two weeks following each dose of vaccine for the body to produce antibodies that protect against infection,” the CDC explained in a press release issued alongside the study. “As a result, people are considered ‘partially vaccinated’ two weeks after their first dose of mRNA vaccine and ‘fully vaccinated’ two weeks after their second dose.”
According to the CDC, the study found an infection rate of 0.04 infections per 1,000 fully vaccinated participants per day. Among participants who had only been partially vaccinated, the rate was 0.19 infections per 1,000 participants per day. In unvaccinated people, the rate jumped to 1.38 infections per 1,000 participants per day.
The study’s findings suggest that, contrary to early concerns, individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccination are unlikely to contract an asymptomatic COVID-19 infection and thus pass the virus on to non-vaccinated people.
That’s good news for those hoping vaccines will help bring about an end to the current pandemic. But while more and more states are expanding their vaccine eligibility, public health officials have warned of a potential fourth wave of COVID-19 infections following upticks in case numbers. According to ABC News, at least 23 states and Washington, D.C. have reported an increase in COVID-19 cases while 13 states have reported an increase in COVID-19 deaths

 

[Dragonlady]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

We're not getting choices. We take what's being offered, which in my case is Pfizer.

Of course you're not getting choices. You live in a socialist dump.

I live in the #1 best country in the world to live in. The USA didn't even make the top 10. Get back to me when you do.

If I had my choice of vaccines, I'd choose Pfizer so I don't see the lack of choice as being a problem. I'm being forced to do what I want to do anyway, how is that a problem?

The United States protects you. And it cost money. We are a much more diverse nation and problems that goes with it. You are experiencing problems now in areas where you have become more diverse.

Protects us from whom? One one has attacked us since the War of 1812, and it was YOU who attacked us then.

You are not a "much more diverse" nation. Fully 1/3 of our residents are immigrants - from all over the world. We take in more refugees per capita, than any other nation in the first world.

Our "problems" with diversity exist all across the country and always have. The issues between the French and the English which were present on the Plains of Abraham in 1758, exist to this day, just as the issues of slavery that are the root of YOUR problems today, existed in 1776, and in both cases, neither of these issues have been fully addressed.

The biggest challenges facing Canada today, are not our diversity, which is the strength of the country, but our original French/English bullshit - a remnant of our colonial past, that we have never been able to overcome. It's worse in Quebec, which struggles to maintain its essential French Quebecois culture as separate and distinct from English speaking Canada. Quebec was sold Confederation as "Two Solitudes" - separate but equal. We all know how that "separate but equal" bullshit always plays out.

Quebec has twice voted to remain part of Canada. They have never signed onto Pierre Trudeau's Constitution. And Western Canada resents the hell out of all of the "special" privileges that the Quebec government has that the rest of Canada doesn't. No diversity is NOT our problem. Both sides in our biggest problem are comprised of the descendants of the two privileged white nations who originally settled Canada bringing their European wars with them.

The exact thing that YOUR Founding Fathers worried would happen to the USA.

 

[Flopper]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

The fact is all 3 vaccines are acceptable. One may be better at preventing serious illness and death and one may be better at preventing infection. I say maybe because there is less data than on this than efficacy. However all have a high enough efficacy to reach herd immunity if enough people are vaccinated.

If you are older or in a high risk group it makes since to go for the Moderna or Pfizer since both have efficacy of about 94%. For younger adults who are at low risk, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine may be a better choice even thou it's efficacy is a bit lower. To develop robust immunity it takes about 15 days with Johnsons & Johnson since there is one dose required and about 6 weeks with Moderna or Pfizer since there are two does separated by several weeks.

Most health authorities are recommending that we take whichever vaccine is available. We need 70% to 80% of the population vaccinated to reach herd immunity and that is going to be tough with both Hispanics and Blacks slow to get vaccinations plus the politicizing of the virus will undoubted reduce participation.

Until covid hospitalizations and deaths become a rarely which won't happen till herd immunity is reached we can expect a sluggish economy as many people will refrain from fully participating in the economic expansion.

 

[theHawk]

One one has attacked us since the War of 1812, and it was YOU who attacked us then.

What a croc of shit. YOU weren’t “Canada” in 1812, it was a British colony, and the British had been attacking and enslaving US citizens. Then they armed Natives to attack US settlers. “YOU” attacked the US first.

 

[Flopper]

I got the Johnson and Johnson version a few weeks ago. Sore arm for a short time but otherwise no need to go back for a 2nd shot.

To answer the question of the OP the vaccination does not stop the virus from being transmitted or stop one from being infected. It just builds up ones immunity when confronted with the virus. Ideally it will prevent a severe disease from developing in that person.


Because some people have the virus but are asthmatic. Yet they can still spread the virus to those who are not asthmatic.

Yes the vaccine increases immunity. However, when immunity is increased, it slows virus replication. So there is less virus and thus less to transmit.

 

[Dragonlady]

One one has attacked us since the War of 1812, and it was YOU who attacked us then.

What a croc of shit. YOU weren’t “Canada” in 1812, it was a British colony, and the British had been attacking and enslaving US citizens. Then they armed Natives to attack US settlers. “YOU” attacked the US first.

 

[Flopper]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

We're not getting choices. We take what's being offered, which in my case is Pfizer.

Pretty much same here, in Jackson, TN. Seems to depend on when and where you get it. Son and daughter got Pfizer, one got it in town where he lives, daughter got it here, involved in healthcare. Wasn't available at that time to people our age in general population in our county as we were suddenly young again. Checked state website, did the qualification survey. Suddenly I was an old Fk again and it offered it at my local country health department, even though county health dept. website still said I had to be 70 on info they were putting out to the public. We both got the Maderna on the day of the appointment as that was what they were pumping.

I figured we'd be getting Moderna out here too. Early information was that you had to be close to a research hospital to have the freezers to store Pfizer, but Moderna could be stored in any freezer. We're more than 30 miles from the nearest research hospital. That hospital is part of the Niagara Regional Health Unit, and we are not, which means we would never be getting our vaccines through them.

When my friend got her first shot she said it was Pfizer, and that's what everyone I've talked to around town has received. The local clinic is only giving out Pfizer. Yippee! Canada is apparently getting massive amounts of Pfizer and early delivery too. As my friend says, by summer, we'll all be swimming in vaccine.

In the US and Canada as well as many other developed nations, there will be plenty of vaccines. However, keep mind that the rate of vaccinations in underdeveloped nations is very low which means large numbers of new cases and new strains of the virus. There is a good chance if we don't stop the spread of the virus, there will eventually be strains immune to our current vaccines which could send of us back to square one.

 

[dblack]

There is a good chance if we don't stop the spread of the virus, there will eventually be strains immune to our current vaccines which could send of us back to square one.

I think that train already left the station.

 

[EvMetro]

There is a good chance if we don't stop the spread of the virus, there will eventually be strains immune to our current vaccines which could send of us back to square one.

Oh yes, there will indeed be more strains, as well as more need for masks, lockdowns, vaccines, authoritarianism, and socialism. Especially near election times. Covid culture is here to stay.

 

[Dragonlady]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

We're not getting choices. We take what's being offered, which in my case is Pfizer.

Pretty much same here, in Jackson, TN. Seems to depend on when and where you get it. Son and daughter got Pfizer, one got it in town where he lives, daughter got it here, involved in healthcare. Wasn't available at that time to people our age in general population in our county as we were suddenly young again. Checked state website, did the qualification survey. Suddenly I was an old Fk again and it offered it at my local country health department, even though county health dept. website still said I had to be 70 on info they were putting out to the public. We both got the Maderna on the day of the appointment as that was what they were pumping.

I figured we'd be getting Moderna out here too. Early information was that you had to be close to a research hospital to have the freezers to store Pfizer, but Moderna could be stored in any freezer. We're more than 30 miles from the nearest research hospital. That hospital is part of the Niagara Regional Health Unit, and we are not, which means we would never be getting our vaccines through them.

When my friend got her first shot she said it was Pfizer, and that's what everyone I've talked to around town has received. The local clinic is only giving out Pfizer. Yippee! Canada is apparently getting massive amounts of Pfizer and early delivery too. As my friend says, by summer, we'll all be swimming in vaccine.

In the US and Canada as well as many other developed nations, there will be plenty of vaccines. However, keep mind that the rate of vaccinations in underdeveloped nations is very low which means large numbers of new cases and new strains of the virus. There is a good chance if we don't stop the spread of the virus, there will eventually be strains immune to our current vaccines which could send of us back to square one.

The new vaccines are easily tweaked for new viruses, but you're right. We have to vaccinate everyone, not just those of us in the first world.

 

[Crepitus]

Which covid vaccine prevents one from being infected? Which one prevents transmission?

All three that are approved for use in the US.

Emergency use. They haven't been approved by the FDA.

 

[Flopper]

There is a good chance if we don't stop the spread of the virus, there will eventually be strains immune to our current vaccines which could send of us back to square one.

I think that train already left the station.

Maybe, maybe not. There is new evidence from laboratory studies that some immune responses driven by current vaccines could be less effective against some of the new strains. The immune response involves many components, and a reduction in one does not mean that the vaccines will not offer protection.

It is the nature of RNA viruses such as the coronavirus to evolve and change gradually. This is why the vaccine manufactures are developing updates as new strains appear. We will most likely see an update to the vaccines by next year. This is nothing new, we have a new flu vaccine almost every year that enhances immunity to new strains.

New Variants of Coronavirus: What You Should Know.

 

[dblack]

There is a good chance if we don't stop the spread of the virus, there will eventually be strains immune to our current vaccines which could send of us back to square one.

I think that train already left the station.

Maybe, maybe not. There is new evidence from laboratory studies that some immune responses driven by current vaccines could be less effective against some of the new strains. The immune response involves many components, and a reduction in one does not mean that the vaccines will not offer protection.

It is the nature of RNA viruses such as the coronavirus to evolve and change gradually. This is why the vaccine manufactures are developing updates as new strains appear. We will most likely see an update to the vaccines by next year. This is nothing new, we have a new flu vaccine almost every year that enhances immunity to new strains.

Yes, but my understanding is that covid is MUCH more contagious than the regular flu. Hopefully, that's primarily because it's new, and, once there is widespread immunity, will be no more contagious than the regular flu. But if immunity doesn't transfer to the variants, and they spread just as fast, we could be looking at the "new normal", a new pandemic every year.