Which Side Lies More?

[Independent thinker]

I, for one, believe that, for the most part, overall, generally speaking, more and more Americans see right through the shit and the lies spewed by both parties and their respective medias. Of course there are still millions of Americans who just blindly follow their side, no matter how many lies their side and their medias spew.

But, I honestly believe that there are more and more Americans all the time who are seeing the light and not buying into the bullshit and the lies. And, I believe this is showing up in the polls. Trump is currently at a 43% approval rating according to the polls. But, democrats only have a 27% approval rate according to the polls, which is a 16% difference. So, this means that more and more Americans are seeing that the lying democrats and their lying media can't be trusted if they can't even come close to Trump's 43% approval rating.

 

[Crepitus]

 

[MarcATL]

lol

 

[Woodznutz]

All are deceived.

 

[Slade3200]

I, for one, believe that, for the most part, overall, generally speaking, more and more Americans see right through the shit and the lies spewed by both parties and their respective medias. Of course there are still millions of Americans who just blindly follow their side, no matter how many lies their side and their medias spew.

But, I honestly believe that there are more and more Americans all the time who are seeing the light and not buying into the bullshit and the lies. And, I believe this is showing up in the polls. Trump is currently at a 43% approval rating according to the polls. But, democrats only have a 27% approval rate according to the polls, which is a 16% difference. So, this means that more and more Americans are seeing that the lying democrats and their lying media can't be trusted if they can't even come close to Trump's 43% approval rating.

I dont think that’s an accurate interpretation of those numbers. Trump is a cult like leader and has many devoted followers that just want to shake things up. Many of them know that he lies and manipulates but support his end goals so they aren’t impacted by the dishonesty. These people would still show up in Trumps approval %

Dems on the other hand have no clear leader or message. So there isnt a lot of meat to throw support behind.

 

[Mac1958]

Which side lies more?

The OTHER side, of course!

 

[Independent thinker]

I dont think that’s an accurate interpretation of those numbers. Trump is a cult like leader and has many devoted followers that just want to shake things up. Many of them know that he lies and manipulates but support his end goals so they aren’t impacted by the dishonesty. These people would still show up in Trumps approval %

Dems on the other hand have no clear leader or message. So there isnt a lot of meat to throw support behind.

So, what is the reason for today's democrats measly 27% approval numbers? Demcocrats shed all kinds of voters last election with many more not even bothering to turn out. And, that was before their approval number went down to 27%. A CNN poll after the election showed that out of the voters whose number one reason for voting was to "save democracy", 58% of those voters voted for Trump. Many democrat voters said they wanted to the party to move more to the center and ditch the woke shit. Since then, the party has decided to move more to the left and are now trying to defend violent illegals and wanting to keep them in the country instead of deporting them.

 

[abu afak]

Which party could you not even run for office in unless you Repeated Trump's Lie "Stolen Election"?

Trumpov is Exponentially the Biggest Liar ever to Hold office. Pathological.
He tells more lies many days than any other President has in 4 years.
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[Independent thinker]

Which party could you not even run for office in unless you Repeated Trump's Lie "Stolen Election"?

Trumpov is Exponentially the Biggest Liar ever to Hold office.
He tells more lies almost every day than any other President has in 4 years.
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[Slade3200]

So, what is the reason for today's democrats measly 27% approval numbers? Demcocrats shed all kinds of voters last election with many more not even bothering to turn out. And, that was before their approval number went down to 27%. A CNN poll after the election showed that out of the voters whose number one reason for voting was to "save democracy", 58% of those voters voted for Trump. Many democrat voters said they wanted to the party to move more to the center and ditch the woke shit. Since then, the party has decided to move more to the left and are now trying to defend violent illegals and wanting to keep them in the country instead of deporting them.

I already explained that. No clear leader, no clear message... Nothing substantial to grab onto. Their die hards are pissed at the election debacle and losing to Trump so I'm pretty sure most of them are taking a spa day. Another chunk are pissed about high prices and want to see what Trump can do... The rest are busy living their lives not consumed with politics

 

[Slade3200]

58% of those voters voted for Trump. Many democrat voters said they wanted to the party to move more to the center and ditch the woke shit. Since then, the party has decided to move more to the left and are now trying to defend violent illegals and wanting to keep them in the country instead of deporting them.

Thats BS... You see many Left leaders crossing bridges and promoting more centrist policies. Look at Gavin Newsome and his new Podcast... Look at Bill Maher and the people he has on his weekly show and podcast. There are many examples of people on the Left reevaluating their policy positions and moving away from the wingnut stuff.

 

[Independent thinker]

I already explained that. No clear leader, no clear message... Nothing substantial to grab onto. Their die hards are pissed at the election debacle and losing to Trump so I'm pretty sure most of them are taking a spa day. Another chunk are pissed about high prices and want to see what Trump can do... The rest are busy living their lives not consumed with politics

So, who should the clear leader be and what should their message be?

 

[abu afak]

Washington Post counts 30,573 False or Misleading claims in Four years by Trump​

01/20/21 -TheHill

The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that former President Trump made a total of 30,573 false or misleading claims during his time in office.

The Post only counted one inaccurate claim per topic per venue, such as during a particular speech, tweet or interview.
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Washington Post counts 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years by Trump

The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that former President Trump made a total of 30,573 false or misleading claims during his time in office.The Post only counted one inaccurate claim per…

thehill.com

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[martybegan]

I, for one, believe that, for the most part, overall, generally speaking, more and more Americans see right through the shit and the lies spewed by both parties and their respective medias. Of course there are still millions of Americans who just blindly follow their side, no matter how many lies their side and their medias spew.

But, I honestly believe that there are more and more Americans all the time who are seeing the light and not buying into the bullshit and the lies. And, I believe this is showing up in the polls. Trump is currently at a 43% approval rating according to the polls. But, democrats only have a 27% approval rate according to the polls, which is a 16% difference. So, this means that more and more Americans are seeing that the lying democrats and their lying media can't be trusted if they can't even come close to Trump's 43% approval rating.

The side that tries to change the meaning of words is the side that lies more.

And I'm not talking about the rage bait things like Gulf of America, I'm talking about calling illegals "undocumented migrants" and drugging and mutilating children "gender affirming care"

 

[Mr Natural]

It’s not a lie if you believe it

 

[Woodznutz]

It’s not a lie if you believe it

True. It can be the truth, but not the truth you need most at the moment. If someone needs to know the time, telling them the weather report doesn't do much good.

 

[d0gbreath]

Comparing the poll rating of one person to the rating of a whole party seems off to me.

 

[OldFlame]

It’s not a lie if you believe it

Wtf?

 

[JustAnotherNut]

Which party could you not even run for office in unless you Repeated Trump's Lie "Stolen Election"?

And just how many Dems ran for offices solely on the premise of anti-Trump??

It didn't work too well for them, since they are now in the minority.

 

[leftwinger]

Thats BS... You see many Left leaders crossing bridges and promoting more centrist policies. Look at Gavin Newsome and his new Podcast... Look at Bill Maher and the people he has on his weekly show and podcast. There are many examples of people on the Left reevaluating their policy positions and moving away from the wingnut stuff.

Gavin newscast actions don't match his occasional media storytelling.

Bill Maher is lowIQ hack trying to keep steady income. Big difference tween him and well paid political hacks.