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[PoliticalChic]

This thread is about truth and morality.

Turns out that what we on the Right knew/suspected nearly a decade ago, and the Democrats ignored/rejected, is coming to light. It represents a critical understanding of how deep and irreparable the divide between Right and Left is: it is based on who accepted the truth.



1. “Nellie Ohr was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, while her husband Asst. Attn. Gen. Bruce Ohr passed the ficticious lies written by Nellie and Chris Steele in the Steele dossier ” Russiagate - Conservapedia

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2.“The information the FBI collected, and the material Christopher Steele and FusionGPS manufactured, were used to create the fake news Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, and to manipulate the FISA Court into granting a FISA warrant - what Peter Strzok called “the insurance policy” against Trump's election.” .” Russiagate - Conservapedia



3.“…Obama and [then CIA Director John] Brennan actually omitted information the Russians had on Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.”

Team Obama Circles the Wagons With Manufactured Strategy to Quell Russia Hoax Treason Allegations





4. “"The intelligence community had one assessment — that Russia did not have the intent or capability to try to impact the outcome of the U.S. election, leading up to election day. The same assessment was made after Donald Trump was elected by the American people as President in 2016, defeating Hillary Clinton... President Obama then directed his DNI James Clapper to lead the effort to create this new intelligence community assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow attempted to influence the outcome of the U.S. election." Hoo Boy: Gabbard Says She Will Release Info That Refutes Obama's Russia Hoax Defense



5. “That Intelligence Community Assessment was created on orders of Barack Obama, who was not pleased that the initial findings found that Russia's reported meddling played no role in influencing the 2016 election. He ordered the ICA, with reported instructions that it read as they wanted to regarding collusion to hamstring Donald Trump and impede his presidency. … this content would be leaked to the media to create maximum chaos for the new administration. James Clapper, James Comey, Brennan, and others all forced the Steele Dossier into that report since that was the only thing they had to manufacture this fake narrative …...” John Brennan Better Lawyer Up After These Revelations



Arguendo, if all of the above is provable……what should Democrat voters do?

 

[alang1216]

Arguendo, if all of the above is provable……what should Democrat voters do?

That's a mighty big if.

 

[toobfreak]

This thread is about truth and morality.

Welp, that just did it. In one great fell swoop, you've just eliminated all leftist participation and understanding.

The thing with Obumma and the Steele Dossier:

• Last year or whenever that the USSC ruled that presidents must have immunity while in office to function and so therefore, Trump could not be prosecuted for the whole J6 thing democrats caused, the Left screamed bloody murder that they were creating a Trump tyranny!
• That is funny because now, that ruling may be the only thing that saves Obumma from swinging from a rope. Notice how the Left are all quiet on that matter now.
• Of course, that may not insulate Obumma from things he did after he was in office. Nor may it protect him from things he did which cannot be construed within the duties of a president.
• And it certainly will not protect Brennan, Clapper and many others.

Personally, I feel Obumma cannot be protected from prosecution for treasonous acts whenever they were done, treason is treason, and that he, if not at least several below him MUST and WILL be prosecuted to protect the integrity of our elections and government.

I know Washington hasn't the balls to actually execute a traitor like Obumma, but the fact that Gabbard has called forth a strike force normally reserved for things like mafia bosses suggests to me that Obumma is not out of deep shit, and certainly not Hillary, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, and many others.

 

[IM2]

Your lies have nothing to do with truth or morality.

 

[Winston]

Welp, that just did it. In one great fell swoop, you've just eliminated all leftist participation and understanding.

The thing with Obumma and the Steele Dossier:

• Last year or whenever that the USSC ruled that presidents must have immunity while in office to function and so therefore, Trump could not be prosecuted for the whole J6 thing democrats caused, the Left screamed bloody murder that they were creating a Trump tyranny!
• That is funny because now, that ruling may be the only thing that saves Obumma from swinging from a rope. Notice how the Left are all quiet on that matter now.
• Of course, that may not insulate Obumma from things he did after he was in office. Nor may it protect him from things he did which cannot be construed within the duties of a president.
• And it certainly will not protect Brennan, Clapper and many others.

Personally, I feel Obumma cannot be protected from prosecution for treasonous acts whenever they were done, treason is treason, and that he, if not at least several below him MUST and WILL be prosecuted to protect the integrity of our elections and government.

I know Washington hasn't the balls to actually execute a traitor like Obumma, but the fact that Gabbard has called forth a strike force normally reserved for things like mafia bosses suggests to me that Obumma is not out of deep shit, and certainly not Hillary, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, and many others.

The ignorance in this thread is already astounding. I mean check out the Senate Intelligence Report concerning Russian interference in the 2016 election. Note, a majority on that committee was Republican. And there were real convictions. Real guilty pleas. Even today, under the Trump administration, the FBI has out a wanted list concerning Russians that attempted to manipulate the election. It really is more than obvious that is precisely what happened.

I mean do you people have no ability to think for yourselves? I mean it would be comical if it wasn't so ******* SAD. Morales? You got to be kidding me. Look, I can understand someone like MTG, sucking off the government teat, using her position to conduct insider trading, protecting that position by kissing the big fat orange man's ass. But for a regular Joe, to actually defend this stupid shit. It is beyond the pale.

Idiots like you, and the OP, will be the downfall of this nation. You can never underestimate the intelligence of the American public. You and the OP prove that in spades.

 

[Crepitus]

This thread is about truth and morality.

Turns out that what we on the Right knew/suspected nearly a decade ago, and the Democrats ignored/rejected, is coming to light. It represents a critical understanding of how deep and irreparable the divide between Right and Left is: it is based on who accepted the truth.



1. “Nellie Ohr was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, while her husband Asst. Attn. Gen. Bruce Ohr passed the ficticious lies written by Nellie and Chris Steele in the Steele dossier ” Russiagate - Conservapedia

• 
  

2.“The information the FBI collected, and the material Christopher Steele and FusionGPS manufactured, were used to create the fake news Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, and to manipulate the FISA Court into granting a FISA warrant - what Peter Strzok called “the insurance policy” against Trump's election.” .” Russiagate - Conservapedia



3.“…Obama and [then CIA Director John] Brennan actually omitted information the Russians had on Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.”

Team Obama Circles the Wagons With Manufactured Strategy to Quell Russia Hoax Treason Allegations





4. “"The intelligence community had one assessment — that Russia did not have the intent or capability to try to impact the outcome of the U.S. election, leading up to election day. The same assessment was made after Donald Trump was elected by the American people as President in 2016, defeating Hillary Clinton... President Obama then directed his DNI James Clapper to lead the effort to create this new intelligence community assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow attempted to influence the outcome of the U.S. election." Hoo Boy: Gabbard Says She Will Release Info That Refutes Obama's Russia Hoax Defense



5. “That Intelligence Community Assessment was created on orders of Barack Obama, who was not pleased that the initial findings found that Russia's reported meddling played no role in influencing the 2016 election. He ordered the ICA, with reported instructions that it read as they wanted to regarding collusion to hamstring Donald Trump and impede his presidency. … this content would be leaked to the media to create maximum chaos for the new administration. James Clapper, James Comey, Brennan, and others all forced the Steele Dossier into that report since that was the only thing they had to manufacture this fake narrative …...” John Brennan Better Lawyer Up After These Revelations



Arguendo, if all of the above is provable……what should Democrat voters do?

It's just the trumpers blowing smoke up your ass to keep you occupied while they try to deal with the Epstein debacle.

This will amount to nothing as usual with trumper crap.

 

[Crepitus]

The ignorance in this thread is already astounding. I mean check out the Senate Intelligence Report concerning Russian interference in the 2016 election. Note, a majority on that committee was Republican. And there were real convictions. Real guilty pleas. Even today, under the Trump administration, the FBI has out a wanted list concerning Russians that attempted to manipulate the election. It really is more than obvious that is precisely what happened.

I mean do you people have no ability to think for yourselves? I mean it would be comical if it wasn't so ******* SAD. Morales? You got to be kidding me. Look, I can understand someone like MTG, sucking off the government teat, using her position to conduct insider trading, protecting that position by kissing the big fat orange man's ass. But for a regular Joe, to actually defend this stupid shit. It is beyond the pale.

Idiots like you, and the OP, will be the downfall of this nation. You can never underestimate the intelligence of the American public. You and the OP prove that in spades.

Fortunately I'm pretty convinced that poster is not an American.

 

[toobfreak]

The ignorance in this thread is already astounding.

Then by all means do leave it to help clear the fog of stupidity.

Even today, under the Trump administration, the FBI has out a wanted list concerning Russians that attempted to manipulate the election.

I hope that FBI list then includes Hillary Clinton, Barry Obumma, Clapper, Brennan, CBS, NBC, NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, and many others who likewise tried to manipulate the election.

• Withholding news of Hillary's tranquilizers and barbiturate use--- trying to manipulate the election.
• Concealing Hunter's laptop--- trying to manipulate the election.
• Claiming Biden was sharp and laser-focused--- trying to manipulate the election.
• The Fed dropping the interest rates right before the 2020 election--- trying to manipulate the election.
• CBS editing and changing Kamala's interview to look and sound better--- all trying to manipulate the election.

We need to charge the entire DNC as a subversive, anti-American terrorist hate group--- unfit to stand as an American political party.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

This thread is about truth and morality.

Turns out that what we on the Right knew/suspected nearly a decade ago, and the Democrats ignored/rejected, is coming to light. It represents a critical understanding of how deep and irreparable the divide between Right and Left is: it is based on who accepted the truth.



1. “Nellie Ohr was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC, while her husband Asst. Attn. Gen. Bruce Ohr passed the ficticious lies written by Nellie and Chris Steele in the Steele dossier ” Russiagate - Conservapedia

• 
  

2.“The information the FBI collected, and the material Christopher Steele and FusionGPS manufactured, were used to create the fake news Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, and to manipulate the FISA Court into granting a FISA warrant - what Peter Strzok called “the insurance policy” against Trump's election.” .” Russiagate - Conservapedia



3.“…Obama and [then CIA Director John] Brennan actually omitted information the Russians had on Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.”

Team Obama Circles the Wagons With Manufactured Strategy to Quell Russia Hoax Treason Allegations





4. “"The intelligence community had one assessment — that Russia did not have the intent or capability to try to impact the outcome of the U.S. election, leading up to election day. The same assessment was made after Donald Trump was elected by the American people as President in 2016, defeating Hillary Clinton... President Obama then directed his DNI James Clapper to lead the effort to create this new intelligence community assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow attempted to influence the outcome of the U.S. election." Hoo Boy: Gabbard Says She Will Release Info That Refutes Obama's Russia Hoax Defense



5. “That Intelligence Community Assessment was created on orders of Barack Obama, who was not pleased that the initial findings found that Russia's reported meddling played no role in influencing the 2016 election. He ordered the ICA, with reported instructions that it read as they wanted to regarding collusion to hamstring Donald Trump and impede his presidency. … this content would be leaked to the media to create maximum chaos for the new administration. James Clapper, James Comey, Brennan, and others all forced the Steele Dossier into that report since that was the only thing they had to manufacture this fake narrative …...” John Brennan Better Lawyer Up After These Revelations



Arguendo, if all of the above is provable……what should Democrat voters do?

Bruce and Nellie Ohr. Weren’t they both FBI agents?

 

[bluzman61]

Thanks for another informative thread, PC.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Welp, that just did it. In one great fell swoop, you've just eliminated all leftist participation and understanding.

The thing with Obumma and the Steele Dossier:

• Last year or whenever that the USSC ruled that presidents must have immunity while in office to function and so therefore, Trump could not be prosecuted for the whole J6 thing democrats caused, the Left screamed bloody murder that they were creating a Trump tyranny!
• That is funny because now, that ruling may be the only thing that saves Obumma from swinging from a rope. Notice how the Left are all quiet on that matter now.
• Of course, that may not insulate Obumma from things he did after he was in office. Nor may it protect him from things he did which cannot be construed within the duties of a president.
• And it certainly will not protect Brennan, Clapper and many others.

Personally, I feel Obumma cannot be protected from prosecution for treasonous acts whenever they were done, treason is treason, and that he, if not at least several below him MUST and WILL be prosecuted to protect the integrity of our elections and government.

I know Washington hasn't the balls to actually execute a traitor like Obumma, but the fact that Gabbard has called forth a strike force normally reserved for things like mafia bosses suggests to me that Obumma is not out of deep shit, and certainly not Hillary, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, and many others.

You should have been more careful with the use of that first word.


There is no 'treason' at issue, as the term is defined in the Constitution, this problem is not about treason......hence my first sentence.

There must be, I am sure, some thoughtful and moral Democrats, and the question at the end is for them.

" Notice how the Left are all quiet on that matter now."
I certainly do.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Your lies have nothing to do with truth or morality.

What lies?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Fortunately I'm pretty convinced that poster is not an American.

Wrong again.

 

[sparky]

This thread is about truth and morality.

who's truth & who's morality PC?

~S~

 

[PoliticalChic]

Bruce and Nellie Ohr. Weren’t they both FBI agents?

"Bruce Genesoke Ohr is a former United States Department of Justice official. A former associate deputy attorney general and former director of the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF),<a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> as of February 2018 Ohr was working in the Justice Department's Criminal Division.<a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> He is an expert on transnational organized crime and has spent most of his career overseeing gang and racketeering-related prosecutions, including Russian organized crime.<a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a><a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>

During the 2016 election, Bruce's wife, Nellie Ohr, a Russia specialist, worked for Fusion GPS as an independent contractor. Nellie Ohr, according to a Republican-led investigation, conducted "research and analysis" of Donald Trump for Fusion GPS.<a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>14<span>]</span></a><a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a><a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a> An ABC News report stated that Nellie Ohr "was not directly involved in the 'dossier' while she worked for Fusion GPS."<a href="Bruce Ohr - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>

 

[PoliticalChic]

who's truth & who's morality PC?

~S~

giving an option to our Democrat pals.

 

[Winston]

Then by all means do leave it to help clear the fog of stupidity.


I hope that FBI list then includes Hillary Clinton, Barry Obumma, Clapper, Brennan, CBS, NBC, NYT, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC, and many others who likewise tried to manipulate the election.

• Withholding news of Hillary's tranquilizers and barbiturate use--- trying to manipulate the election.
• Concealing Hunter's laptop--- trying to manipulate the election.
• Claiming Biden was sharp and laser-focused--- trying to manipulate the election.
• The Fed dropping the interest rates right before the 2020 election--- trying to manipulate the election.
• CBS editing and changing Kamala's interview to look and sound better--- all trying to manipulate the election.

We need to charge the entire DNC as a subversive, anti-American terrorist hate group--- unfit to stand as an American political party.

Great, double down on stupid. You guys are a hoot.

 

[80zephyr]

The ignorance in this thread is already astounding. I mean check out the Senate Intelligence Report concerning Russian interference in the 2016 election. Note, a majority on that committee was Republican. And there were real convictions. Real guilty pleas. Even today, under the Trump administration, the FBI has out a wanted list concerning Russians that attempted to manipulate the election. It really is more than obvious that is precisely what happened.

I mean do you people have no ability to think for yourselves? I mean it would be comical if it wasn't so ******* SAD. Morales? You got to be kidding me. Look, I can understand someone like MTG, sucking off the government teat, using her position to conduct insider trading, protecting that position by kissing the big fat orange man's ass. But for a regular Joe, to actually defend this stupid shit. It is beyond the pale.

Idiots like you, and the OP, will be the downfall of this nation. You can never underestimate the intelligence of the American public. You and the OP prove that in spades.

All the information fed to any government panel came from a place where 95+ percent was Democrats. Washington DC. With what we have found out so far, I doubt any panel got credible information....on anything.

 

[Crepitus]

Wrong again.

 

[sparky]

giving an option to our Democrat pals.

which they are just as free to do in return PC

consider, one man's patriot is another's traitor right now

the high moral ground is assumed via who ever is in power, truth following suit....

~S~